Re: Ubuntu updates on hold until switch to snap is ready.
 

For what it is worth: insider chat says that Canonical is unlikely to devote considerable resources to UT. Ubuntu personal (with Unity 8, Mir and snaps) will be the thing, and where that is compatible with phones, so well and good. Community can move forward from that base.

Focus is IoT, Server and Cloud. Desktop likely is going to diminish in input, that is my best guess. It never made money...

Remember, this is not official. Canonical remains mum.

Re: Ubuntu updates on hold until switch to snap is ready.
 

If they are moving their emphasis away from configurations with a UI (ie. mobile/desktop), then will that also mean that Mir won't be a priority any more? How long before they bin it and go with Wayland?

Re: Ubuntu updates on hold until switch to snap is ready.
 

They have entirely too much FACE invested in MIR.
Anticipate the exquisitely slow strangulation of the entire ecosystem,
dragged out over a decade, rather than any kind of reconciliation.

#Abandonware

Re: Ubuntu updates on hold until switch to snap is ready.
 

How much work is required on specific UT stuff now, I mean once we get that vanishing mythical unicorn of a mainlined Linux kernel which serves both Android and GNU Linux. Then we can all have horrible bin drivers for at least one kernel version of everything. Kinda like the situation we have with the Maemo tablets and phones.
AFAIK the mess of UT is mostly due to android specific video drivers requiring surfaceflinger and whatever does android sound and having to do a localhost VNC for video kludge/hack to (badly) run normal x11 apps.

Re: Ubuntu updates on hold until switch to snap is ready.
 

They're defaulting back to Gnome for next year's LTS, and it sounds more ominous for UT.

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/u...ktop-not-unity

Re: Ubuntu updates on hold until switch to snap is ready.
 

Ubuntu on a phone was a bad decision to me to begin with. Other bad decisions were made and it seems as if the user will ultimately lose an option due to these decisions.

Can't say that I'm surprised.

Re: Ubuntu updates on hold until switch to snap is ready.
 

Curious as to why you thought it was a bad idea? I think it showed promise and was an interesting alternative os for phones, but took too long.

Rich

Re: Ubuntu updates on hold until switch to snap is ready.
 

everything took them to loooooooooong. And at the end they didn't deliver anything. And mainly because they wanted Mir while wayland was good enough for everybody else.

Re: Ubuntu updates on hold until switch to snap is ready.
 

It didn't seem like it was truly their focus. The announcements, the approach all seemed to be a proof of concept; not something that was clearly thought out with the user in mind. It was an unnecessary tech demo.

That's the reasoning behind my statement. No soul was put into this endeavor by the most forward-facing people. I do not doubt the engineers that probably truly wanted it to happen. I just did not get that same sense of purpose from all of the people that handled the PR, announcements and even direction.

Commit, go big, prove the world needs what you're capable of doing, market it or at least announce it well... and then do it. That clearly did not happen. And that sucks... we need more options. Not less.

Re: Ubuntu updates on hold until switch to snap is ready.
 

It wasn't a bad idea. It was bad execution. Going against the grain of rest of Linux ecosystem (Mir. vs Wayland etc.) will make it much more costly to keep it competitive. Personally more destructive was the architecture decisions to mimic Apple's restrictive application lifecycle model. It strangled pretty much my own interest in the platform.

SailfishOS has a much more sensible approach that I can get behind with true multitasking and fewer restrictions on applications.