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-   -   Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=50763)

Stskeeps 2010-04-22 15:52
Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 
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Originally Posted by twoboxen (Post 622776)
Is there any way that this can be done and still allow custom kernels (e.g. titan's)??

Thanks for the update, too. Actively engaging your community early and often will definitely benefit both your users and your team. (see any PR1.2 thread for a counter-example).
Part of the patches that was published was kexec patches, which is already in titan's kernel. That'd be the sanest method for dual-booting other kernels.

Texrat 2010-04-22 15:53
Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 622767)
I was unable to attend this week's meeting.
Wasn't this week's meeting postponed anyway?

Stskeeps 2010-04-22 15:55
Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 622784)
Wasn't this week's meeting postponed anyway?
No, that was last week's, due to LFcollab.

Minutes at http://trac.tspre.org/meetbot/meego-...-21-18.58.html - check the logs too, a quite interesting discussion about openness.

fatalsaint 2010-04-22 15:55
Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by twoboxen (Post 622776)
Is there any way that this can be done and still allow custom kernels (e.g. titan's)??

Thanks for the update, too. Actively engaging your community early and often will definitely benefit both your users and your team. (see any PR1.2 thread for a counter-example).
As an addition to this: I just really hope the "new" kernels contain the necessary NAT support for things like WiFi Hotspotting. (unless that's already been worked around and my information is outdated... I still have a lot of unread stuff over the past month or so.)

sjgadsby 2010-04-22 15:58
Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 
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Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 622771)
I think it's closer to the definition of a hardware adaptation team. You need that to work before you bring in the fun things.
Understood, and I do not want to give the impression that I'm anything but thrilled by this announcement and the work that is underway. Thank you, Nokia! Thank you, everyone working on this project!

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What is happening is that Nokia's actively upstreaming the patches for the N900 and maintaining a hardware adaptation. Isn't this great?
Yes!

I simply foresee this news being read by many as "Harmattan is coming to the N900". Then, later, if Nokia doesn't provide the Harmattan UX and proprietary applications for MeeGo on the N900, I can see angry cries of "Nokia lied to us!"

I just wanted to know if Nokia has as yet clarified their intentions as to the UX layer and applications. If they haven't, that's understandable. If they have, then I'd like to know so I'm able to supply the correct information when questions arise.

Either way, I'm very, very happy about this project.

cjp 2010-04-22 16:01
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That was an interesting read. Thank you!

Sounds like there are plans to enable MeeGo for Maemo5 after all, and with double boot and everything! I'm impressed!

me2000 2010-04-22 16:02
Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 
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Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 622789)
As an addition to this: I just really hope the "new" kernels contain the necessary NAT support for things like WiFi Hotspotting. (unless that's already been worked around and my information is outdated... I still have a lot of unread stuff over the past month or so.)
What does Harri mean by the "atom", .28 and .33 kernel references ? How are these related to the PC based kernels ?

What is the full version number and name of these kernels ?

Do they build the same ? Can one enable the same kernel options ?

Thanks

russo_br 2010-04-22 19:13
Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 622797)
I just wanted to know if Nokia has as yet clarified their intentions as to the UX layer and applications. If they haven't, that's understandable. If they have, then I'd like to know so I'm able to supply the correct information when questions arise.
All the clues indicates that Nokia has made a decision whether to support Meego on N900 officially or not. @qgil even told that users could decide to stay on Maemo or upgrade to Meego, but I agree with you that there should be a clear statement since the information now is all spread through this forum and Meego mailing lists. A couple of days ago I checked the wiki about "What we can realistic expect from Meego on N900" and there was no update regarding this Meego to N900 project.

johnel 2010-04-22 19:29
Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 
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Originally Posted by vielfrass (Post 622709)
....As already discussed by Valtteri in TSG meeting, we are looking into going more open mode shortly. One reason why we have done this on this way is that at the same time we have been trying to handle opening of many currenly closed components that are needed in MeeGo and to build feasible MeeGo images for N900.
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Max
This is great news and thanks for posting the status here.

Just one question. When you talk about opening closed components are we talking about stuff like functionality of the phone app and battery management?

With this kind of commitment hopefully we will be rewarded with an open and active platform.

I think Nokia have earned major brownie points with this.

Now I am excited.

Definitely time for cake.

harrihakulinen 2010-04-22 19:48
Re: Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project
 
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Originally Posted by russo_br (Post 623209)
All the clues indicates that Nokia has made a decision whether to support Meego on N900 officially or not. @qgil even told that users could decide to stay on Maemo or upgrade to Meego, but I agree with you that there should be a clear statement since the information now is all spread through this forum and Meego mailing lists. A couple of days ago I checked the wiki about "What we can realistic expect from Meego on N900" and there was no update regarding this Meego to N900 project.
Looks like I should have been little bit more specific. I did not announce any new activity, we are still talking about the same project that we announced way back, see

http://wiki.maemo.org/What_can_we_re...or_my_N900_.3F

Please remember that MeeGo is about open source os, and product decisions for Nokia will be made by another people / scope.

Personally I feel that it is too early now to talk about MeeGo as productized platform for N900.

Br,
//Harri


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