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Jedibeeftrix 2019-01-11 15:50
Re: Anticipation - Official Sailfish support for Xperia XA3 (announced MWC 2019)
 
Looks like MWC for the XA3 handsets:

https://www.phonearena.com/news/sony...ening_id112657

deprecated 2019-01-11 18:58
Re: Anticipation - Official Sailfish support for Xperia XA3 (announced MWC 2019)
 
Personally, I think the reliance on Google garbage in order to use an independent, third-party mobile OS is a little silly.

The whole point is to get away from the Google/Apple duopoly. I feel like Jolla should focus more on device support and software stack completion, instead of wasting resources on polluting Sailfish devices with the Google disease.

Just can't see the point.

juiceme 2019-01-11 20:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deprecated (Post 1552610)
Personally, I think the reliance on Google garbage in order to use an independent, third-party mobile OS is a little silly.

The whole point is to get away from the Google/Apple duopoly. I feel like Jolla should focus more on device support and software stack completion, instead of wasting resources on polluting Sailfish devices with the Google disease.

Just can't see the point.
A noble idea but remind me please how would you do that agian?
Maybe support only phones that have blobless SoC:s? How many of those are there, hm??

deprecated 2019-01-11 22:19
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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1552613)
A noble idea but remind me please how would you do that agian?
Maybe support only phones that have blobless SoC:s? How many of those are there, hm??
There are a few. Basebands are another story. But that wasn't really the point. The point is that I'd rather not rely on Google services/apps in order to pretend I'm using an alternative. It kind of defeats the purpose I think.

pichlo 2019-01-12 07:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deprecated (Post 1552631)
I'd rather not rely on Google services/apps in order to pretend I'm using an alternative. It kind of defeats the purpose I think.
This! A hundred times this!

kinggo 2019-01-12 08:38
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+1
It's better to use android without google than sailfish with it. Sadly, after all this time, sailfish is then just a launcher and not much more since 6 years after its core apps are still so basic and very limited. :(

juiceme 2019-01-12 13:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deprecated (Post 1552631)
There are a few. Basebands are another story. But that wasn't really the point. The point is that I'd rather not rely on Google services/apps in order to pretend I'm using an alternative. It kind of defeats the purpose I think.
OK, I thought you were condemning the use of libhybris on the basis that it relies on Google code in the drivers layer. Of this there indeed are not enough escape possibilities.

On the issue of Android software and apps I am of course of same mind, I have been using SFOS since its inception on a range of devices (sbj1, tablet, nexus5, xperiax) and am proud to say that I have never enabled Alien Dalvik on any of my devices. :D

juiceme 2019-01-12 13:21
Re: Anticipation - Official Sailfish support for Xperia XA3 (announced MWC 2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kinggo (Post 1552636)
+1
It's better to use android without google than sailfish with it. Sadly, after all this time, sailfish is then just a launcher and not much more since 6 years after its core apps are still so basic and very limited. :(
Maybe it suits a simple man like me; I have no problem with sailfish apps.

peterleinchen 2019-01-12 14:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1552642)
Maybe it suits a simple man like me; I have no problem with sailfish apps.
True.
For the ones/few there are.

But what about needs of peeps (not only Swedish!) for banking apps or similar?

juiceme 2019-01-12 14:26
Re: Anticipation - Official Sailfish support for Xperia XA3 (announced MWC 2019)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1552643)
True.
For the ones/few there are.

But what about needs of peeps (not only Swedish!) for banking apps or similar?
Ah but I do have a solution for you, my friend.

The reason that such abomination as vendor-lock for devices used to access public services is because the politicians have allowed it to happen.
The way to fix this is to elect intelligent people who understand the value of open interfaces for public services.

We have upcoming election in Finland in 2 months, and soon is time a new EU elections... People need to make noise about this issue and make sure there will be laws against it.

Everybody will profit on openking up these interfaces!


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