Re: Nokia employees protest due to massive layoff
 

Well well well why i am NOT suprised !!!.

I just seen this and thought straight away this should have happened 3 yr ago, well at least someone has got sense so my guess is ELOP is going to make all the difference to Nokia.

Re: Nokia employees protest due to massive layoff
 

Think Einstein. CEO of a company makes a decision, that's life, if the employees don't like it then they should go work somewhere else and stop acting like spoiled 4 year olds. Get it?

Re: Nokia employees protest due to massive layoff
 

You fool! You CAN blame the people at the top for their failure... it's not always an option to leave for the workers. I get it. I get it, especially during the recent recession.. especially if they live in Finland and need to keep their job. Oh I get it. heh

Now customers and investors.. THEY'RE the idiots if they continue to patronize and support a company like this.

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Hail Elop, the canadian prick, you're in good company.

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Whilst Kajko's comments diplay a poor attitude and tone (perhaps english isn't the priamry language here?) there is a point.
Given that Nokia has the largest RD budget of any other phone maker, what have all those dollars produced? flextime for it's programmers?

As much as we can piss and moan like we've just adopted a redheaded stepson when it comes to WP7, if a company with the largest R&D budget of any phone manufacturer can't even drag symbian (a great phone OS) kicking and screaming into the 21st century, then what hope for developing Maemo....or Meego?
Nokia has been fumbling around for ages and at some level the guys and girls at the very pointy end of development must shoulder some responsibility for not delivering, after all, they can't complain that they didn't have the budget to do it......

Having said this, I feel for anyone who's at risk of losing their job due to corporate "restructuring". Here's hoping they move to HP and help to make WebOS something that will take even more of Nokia's dwindling market share....

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What went through my mind was... 1500 software engineers and they never got Maemo/MeeGo into a mass-consumer-ready state?!? That adds even more to boggle the mind in the mystery about what was taking them so long. :confused:

Re: Nokia employees protest due to massive layoff
 

Re: Nokia employees protest due to massive layoff
 

So true. For computer game players... think of Symbian as Daikatana, MeeGo as Duke Nukem Forever, and Nokia's programmers as Ion Storm and 3D Realms rolled into one.

Protesting the unfairness of being let go while not being able to deliver a solution despite record budget amounts (and PalmOS had ten version releases between its debut and HP's aquisition a little over a year later (compared to Maemo's 4) and was developed on a budget of three dollars and some pocket lint and was actually consumer-ready at launch) seems a little bit clueless. My next-to-last employer eventually went out of business, and some of us worked for up to three months without pay to try one final effort to land the company a new major account and turn things around - and that was after months of voluntary reduced pay, which was below market average in the first place. Heck, I went eight years without a vacation. :( Oh, and no health insurance or retirement plan. :( :( And we occasionally managed to steal accounts from competition several times our size.

A human resources employee at my next place of employment, a billion-dollar company, told me that "no one ever gets fired here". And trust me, you could tell. My boss had 15 people working under him and when weather was bad he'd let folks go home early... except myself and one other person. We were always told one of us could go. We initially thought it was some sort of loyalty test and we'd both make excuses to stay.
He eventually quasi-confessed that he'd only hired four of those 15 and we were the two best and he only had hiring authority but not firing authority. There was a lot of fun when an employee wanted to be fired rather than quit to collect unemployment benefits and like a tv comedy he couldn't get fired no matter what he intentionally screwed up or how he acted (including viewing Internet porn in full view of the rest of the office).


I'm sure there are a lot of new employees that had nothing to do with the Nokia mess that will be affected. On the other hand, I don't feel it heartless to suggest there are probably a lot of long-term employees there who probably should have been let go and replaced with less complacent and more ambitious employees a long time ago.

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Re: Nokia employees protest due to massive layoff
 

MeeGo positions were being added right up until the announcement.

That's cruel.