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pichlo 2016-11-22 20:02
Re: "First True Linux x86 and x64 Tablet"
 
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Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1519205)
I agree. Tablets are toys. So are smart phones and pcs...
Not entirely. Tablet, yes. Smartphones, yes. PCs, no. PCs are for work.
Of course, work can be fun. Sadly, I am not that lucky.

feedme 2016-11-22 20:18
Re: "First True Linux x86 and x64 Tablet"
 
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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1519207)

Throughout the 1980s and 1990s, the portable counterparts of the desktop computers of the same era had a battery life counted in weeks or months (Sharp PC 1500, HP 95LX...). Similar counterparts in 2010s barely manage through the day. What went wrong?
People accepted/ preferred light and thin vs. thick and heavier with longer battery life. The thing here I can not understand is to integrate battery inside, so that no bigger battery is possible even if wanted. " People use different shoes in weddings and when hiking" but same battery for every occasion.:confused:

lancewex 2016-11-22 21:15
Re: "First True Linux x86 and x64 Tablet"
 
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Originally Posted by michaaa62 (Post 1519155)
The first???
I do not think so! .
There was also the Pengpod. I got one. It was awful.

bandora 2016-11-22 21:48
Re: "First True Linux x86 and x64 Tablet"
 
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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1519207)
I do not quite follow that line of reasoning. If you had said that 8 hours is fine for a desktop replacement then I would understand. That is pretty much where laptops fit. But 8 hours for something that, by your own emphasis, is NOT aiming to replace a desktop? For something that, by its very nature, is meant to be mobile? :confused:

Throughout the 1980s and 1990s, the portable counterparts of the desktop computers of the same era had a battery life counted in weeks or months (Sharp PC 1500, HP 95LX...). Similar counterparts in 2010s barely manage through the day. What went wrong?
Although I fully agree that battery life should be improved drastically, I do believe that 8 hours of work is sufficient for many things in which makes it not classified as only a toy.

For example, I have a Surface Pro 3, and when I first bought it (I was going to university at the time), I used it for literally everything and it lasted me the whole day at school.. And I did everything on it. (I had my books, notes, code.. etc). So my point here is that it really depends on how you use the tablet that classifies it, you cannot go ahead and generalise all tablets as toys. :)

gerbick 2016-11-22 23:24
Re: "First True Linux x86 and x64 Tablet"
 
All of these arguments perhaps point to the true reason no Linux device has really sold in massive numbers. There's an argument over even the minute of details or capability and compared to something mythical.

8 hours of device time, in full-blown use is not a bad metric. Not the best, but a 2kg laptop barely beats that. Most phones state high numbers, but use them for hours with screens turned own. You'll rarely get more than 5.

What's being called a toy, I use professionally. I use both the iPad Pro and a Surface Pro 4 in the creative industry. Both get more than 8 hours actually, if I'm being smart that is.

What's being touted as a solution; I don't think it exists. And this product won't address what you guys consider a solution either. Not sure what would - I didn't get 8 hours+ on my N810. Pretty darn close, but it's no longer supported - community or otherwise.

maegon9y00 2016-11-22 23:28
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My Kobo Touch n905c ereader is the only device {I have, and know} whose 1000mAh battery last 8 days actually.
It's been said it is possible turn it a debian tablet. When I got time I'll do the try

That's the benefit of e-Ink displays.

Dave999 2016-11-25 18:41
Re: "First True Linux x86 and x64 Tablet"
 
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Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1519157)
Please, someone summon Dave999
sorry I couldn't attend. :D apparently I was banned by Win because I used the word scam 26 times this year. Seems to be a TMO limit at 25/per year or something.

So I cant say that this is a ****. But if you planning to invest I would get some kind of **** insurance first.

HtheB 2016-11-25 21:38
Re: "First True Linux x86 and x64 Tablet"
 
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1519391)
sorry I couldn't attend. :D apparently I was banned by Win because I used the word scam 26 times this year. Seems to be a TMO limit at 25/per year or something.

So I cant say that this is a ****. But if you planning to invest I would get some kind of **** insurance first.
You just made it 27 :p

maegon9y00 2016-12-09 13:15
Re: "First True Linux x86 and x64 Tablet"
 
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Originally Posted by maegon9y00 (Post 1519160)
It seems they made MJ7HDTV 7" Android Tablet with Built-in HDTV Tuner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2WvK8WfgLw

Before they planned this tablet with Ubuntu in mind.
and collected nearly 9999

In this indiegogo campaign they have at this moment:
$3,429 USD raised by 16 backers 27-nov
$4,064 USD raised by 19 backers 29-nov
$4,539 USD raised by 21 backers 30-nov

If they get $1,000USD each day, they will get only $USD34000 USD in a month. So they will need at least $3,000USD daily to obtain fixed goal of $100,000 USD
It seems it is actually in frozen state from 30 nov
$4,539 USD raised by 21 backers 9-dec
5% of $100,000
fixed goal
17 days left

gerbick 2016-12-09 15:11
Re: "First True Linux x86 and x64 Tablet"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by maegon9y00 (Post 1520302)
It seems it is actually in frozen state from 30 nov
$4,539 USD raised by 21 backers 9-dec
5% of $100,000
fixed goal
17 days left
Can't say that I'm surprised.


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