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Sopwith 2012-03-26 06:54

Re: N900 was(is) not the Only MAEMO phone meet N500 & Friends :)
 
What's with all the "it's not real Maemo" posts: could those device makers legally download and install Maemo on their phones? If not, then why not? Wasn't Maemo supposed to be open? If we had it running on a dozen of alternative devices, maybe it wouldn't have been so easy for Nokia to piss all over it...

konttori 2012-03-26 07:27

Re: N900 was(is) not the Only MAEMO phone meet N500 & Friends :)
 
All of these phones used maemo 4 as the OS. Maemo 4 was more clearly directly usable open source OS than maemo 5 and meego, which had some of the core components closed.

Anyhoo, fun to see those devices. Brings back memories of maemo 4 times gone by.

konttori 2012-03-26 07:30

Re: N900 was(is) not the Only MAEMO phone meet N500 & Friends :)
 
Just and example of how the UIs run on those things:
http://www.slashgear.com/zte-v7-maem...ds-on-0488326/

immi.shk 2012-03-26 07:32

Re: N900 was(is) not the Only MAEMO phone meet N500 & Friends :)
 
you said it right bro...
if android can get into any device(even wrist watches) and maemo cant get into a damn single android device.. then WHO IS MORE OPEN-SOURCE ?

danramos 2012-03-26 08:58

Re: N900 was(is) not the Only MAEMO phone meet N500 & Friends :)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by konttori (Post 1184138)
All of these phones used maemo 4 as the OS. Maemo 4 was more clearly directly usable open source OS than maemo 5 and meego, which had some of the core components closed.

Anyhoo, fun to see those devices. Brings back memories of maemo 4 times gone by.

But we were clearly and repeatedly told that Maemo 5 was MORE open-source than Maemo 4, that MeeGo was PURE OPEN-SOURCE, and I thought we were clarified that the N9's Harmattan OS wasn't really MeeGo but rather just Maemo with MeeGo-like bits and bobs. Is there something you know that we weren't told or that we can't tell from looking around?

electroaudio 2012-03-26 09:30

Re: N900 was(is) not the Only MAEMO phone meet N500 & Friends :)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1184161)
But we were clearly and repeatedly told that Maemo 5 was MORE open-source than Maemo 4, that MeeGo was PURE OPEN-SOURCE

Commercial thinking..
If something is worse then expected, then lie and say that it is "better than ever before" to cover it up ;)

Kangal 2012-03-26 11:17

Re: N900 was(is) not the Only MAEMO phone meet N500 & Friends :)
 
Maemo 4 was outstanding for its era. Reminds me of the Zaurus which was a different beast all together.

But by yesteryears standards its a complete flop. Only Maemo 5 was great and privileged but that had a case of NBS (Nokia Board Stuffup Syndrome). And the whole codework just needed a fresh start, it finally had all the tools it always needed:

-Linux 2.6.3
-rpm (great for concurrent download & install)
-KDE (a powerful gui, demonstrates flexibility of developing a gui based off Qt)
-Qt 4.6 (matured toolset to develop easy C++ apps that's highly cross-compatible)
-Necessary tweeks to create a power/performance efficient code system
-ARM (40nm Cortex A8 ushered enough grunt at low power consumption)
-Community (mass interest in 3rd party support and development)
-Market (era of the superphone had arrived with high-speed wireless internet and its adoption)
-Intuitive User Experience (inspired by the iPhone, unique designs followed shortly)

...we all saw these individual parts, yet no-one has brought them together

danramos 2012-03-28 08:54

Re: N900 was(is) not the Only MAEMO phone meet N500 & Friends :)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kangal (Post 1184200)
Maemo 4 was outstanding for its era. Reminds me of the Zaurus which was a different beast all together.

But by yesteryears standards its a complete flop. Only Maemo 5 was great and privileged but that had a case of NBS (Nokia Board Stuffup Syndrome). And the whole codework just needed a fresh start, it finally had all the tools it always needed:

...<snip>...

...we all saw these individual parts, yet no-one has brought them together

Yeah... why is that, I wonder?

misterc 2012-03-28 19:36

Re: N900 was(is) not the Only MAEMO phone meet N500 & Friends :)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1185033)
Yeah... why is that, I wonder?

and then came Flop...

MINKIN2 2012-03-28 20:19

Re: N900 was(is) not the Only MAEMO phone meet N500 & Friends :)
 
Sorry guys, I was never a maemo4 user so please forgive my ignorance but I would like to ask...

How open source was maemo4?

EDIT: Scratch that, been doing some reading :)


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