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yukop4 2009-12-14 20:55

vagalume error message
 
does vagalume still work-keep getting an error message "invalid radio url.....

my last fm subscription is fine when i go to the last fm website

andrewfblack 2009-12-14 20:56

Re: vagalume error message
 
I'm getting network connection error for last.fm and libre.fm

benny1967 2009-12-14 21:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yukop4 (Post 427762)
does vagalume still work-keep getting an error message "invalid radio url.....

my last fm subscription is fine when i go to the last fm website


On the N900, Vagalume doesn't work for Last.fm; it's libre.fm only.

It's in the FAQs. Last.fm doesn't allow streaming to mobile phones.

http://vagalume.igalia.com/faq.html

yukop4 2009-12-14 21:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 427778)
On the N900, Vagalume doesn't work for Last.fm; it's libre.fm only.

It's in the FAQs. Last.fm doesn't allow streaming to mobile phones.

http://vagalume.igalia.com/faq.html

sorry forgot to mention i have a n810 os diablo

hitec 2009-12-14 21:11

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But the N900 is a mobile computer. ;)

Kieron 2009-12-14 21:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 427778)
On the N900, Vagalume doesn't work for Last.fm; it's libre.fm only.

It's in the FAQs. Last.fm doesn't allow streaming to mobile phones.

http://vagalume.igalia.com/faq.html

Is there any way to add this manually?

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#

Can't I just add the Last.fm data to the N900 version?

Since Vagalume is free software, there's no way to prevent you from doing that, but note that you might be violating the Last.fm terms of service. The Vagalume team takes no responsibility for that.

If you really want to do that, please don't use the Last.fm API key that comes with Vagalume. That API key is necessary to identify the client and you might be harming legitimate Last.fm users if you violate the terms of service using the Vagalume API key. Get a free key here.

Cadabena 2009-12-14 23:13

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Tried the new one but promptly returned to my free music heaven.

http://repository.maemo.org/extras/p...ook1_armel.deb

Alberto Garcia 2009-12-14 23:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cadabena (Post 428023)
Tried the new one but promptly returned to my free music heaven.

http://repository.maemo.org/extras/p...ook1_armel.deb

Does the chinook/diablo version work on the N900??

Alberto Garcia 2009-12-14 23:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kieron (Post 427853)
Is there any way to add this manually?

You just need to create/download a file like this:

http://pastebin.com/f49509cfd

but with a valid Last.fm API key ( http://www.last.fm/api/account ), and then import it from Vagalume.

christexaport 2009-12-15 01:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alberto Garcia (Post 428066)
You just need to create/download a file like this:

http://pastebin.com/f49509cfd

but with a valid Last.fm API key ( http://www.last.fm/api/account ), and then import it from Vagalume.

What?! I don't understand any of what you said. All I want to do is stream some music. I have a Libre.fm and last.fm account. Why won't it accept my login and just play? And if I need a file to play it, why doesn't the app retieve it for me? I don't even see any place to download this file. Since the file is needed, why not give instructions on how to get it, then import it into the N900? Or put "for rocket scientists only" in the details...

Alberto Garcia 2009-12-15 01:17

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Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 428155)
What?! I don't understand any of what you said.

Then you should probably read the FAQ first, in particular the last two questions: http://vagalume.igalia.com/faq.html

christexaport 2009-12-15 01:44

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Quote:

# The web services URL (used for almost everything, including playing music)
I have access to the API account info, and have my key and secret, but don't find any documentation for the web services URL. Someone please help me out here, and I'll write a guide layman folk like me can understand.
Quote:

# The Realtime Submission Protocol URL (used for scrobbling)
Same for this little elusive tidbit...

christexaport 2009-12-15 01:46

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I read that, and its what I found confusing. Since you seem to understand it so well, why don't you explain it to me. Not the reason the data is absent, but how to add it.

Den in USA 2009-12-15 05:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yukop4 (Post 427762)
does vagalume still work-keep getting an error message "invalid radio url.....

my last fm subscription is fine when i go to the last fm website

I get the same error message after installing version 0.8 on my N800. I also am able to listen directly from last.fm site.

yukop4 2009-12-15 07:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Den in USA (Post 428380)
I get the same error message after installing version 0.8 on my N800. I also am able to listen directly from last.fm site.

den the older version works fine-just used it-looks like a bug with the new version-unless someone wants us to use libre fm instead of last fm-major conspiracy in the works

EmilV 2009-12-15 07:21

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Am I the only one getting an error message when I try to install vagalume 0.8 on the n900? "Error: cannot find files." or the equivalent in Swedish

yukop4 2009-12-15 07:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EmilV (Post 428514)
Am I the only one getting an error message when I try to install vagalume 0.8 on the n900? "Error: cannot find files." or the equivalent in Swedish

ok i finally got to the bottom of the story-that is for $3.00 USD a month it will work-yes folks pay and play on the latest version of vagalume if you want to use last fm-now if someone could do an app that downloads all the music to the memory card similar to streamripper then that $3 would be worth it

benny1967 2009-12-15 08:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 428155)
What?! I don't understand any of what you said. All I want to do is stream some music. I have a Libre.fm and last.fm account. Why won't it accept my login and just play? And if I need a file to play it, why doesn't the app retieve it for me? I don't even see any place to download this file. Since the file is needed, why not give instructions on how to get it, then import it into the N900? Or put "for rocket scientists only" in the details...

as far as i understand it, it's not about "a file" you would need to download. the problem is the API-key within this file. the API-key doesn't identify you as a user, it identifies the developer who wrote the application.

because accessing last.fm from your N900 violates their terms of use, the author of the application asks you not to change vagalume in a way so that it could access last.fm. doing so will result in last.fm banning his key... and all vagalume versions that run on real tablets and can still access last.fm.

so the proper way to do it is apply for your own API-key, modify vagalume and wait till you get banned.

this is what i understood. could still be wrong, but at least it's a good story. ;)

Alberto Garcia 2009-12-15 09:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 428614)
as far as i understand it, it's not about "a file" you would need to download. the problem is the API-key within this file. the API-key doesn't identify you as a user, it identifies the developer who wrote the application.

because accessing last.fm from your N900 violates their terms of use, the author of the application asks you not to change vagalume in a way so that it could access last.fm. doing so will result in last.fm banning his key... and all vagalume versions that run on real tablets and can still access last.fm.

so the proper way to do it is apply for your own API-key, modify vagalume and wait till you get banned.

That's correct, thanks for summarizing it.

(and also note that Vagalume does not only run on Internet Tablets, it works on any GNU/Linux distribution -Debian, Ubuntu, etc.- and it is used by many people who haven't ever touched a Nokia Internet Tablet)

Alberto Garcia 2009-12-15 10:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yukop4 (Post 428545)
ok i finally got to the bottom of the story-that is for $3.00 USD a month it will work-yes folks pay and play on the latest version of vagalume if you want to use last fm-now if someone could do an app that downloads all the music to the memory card similar to streamripper then that $3 would be worth it

So the new version requires you to pay a subscription but the old version works even if you don't pay anything? Is that what happens?

yukop4 2009-12-15 10:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alberto Garcia (Post 428682)
So the new version requires you to pay a subscription but the old version works even if you don't pay anything? Is that what happens?

so far yes but i have not tried the old version for a few weeks-so i do not know about long term-i paid the $3 to try the new version and see what the free downloads are like -if they are no better than what is already freely available then i will NOT use vagalume at all

Alberto Garcia 2009-12-15 10:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 428188)
I have access to the API account info, and have my key and secret, but don't find any documentation for the web services URL. Someone please help me out here, and I'll write a guide layman folk like me can understand.
Same for this little elusive tidbit...

Ok, note that you're probably violating the Last.fm terms of service if you do this, but these would be the steps:

1. Download this file: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=f49509cfd

2. Open it with a text editor

3. Put your API key and secret there.

4. Import the new file from Vagalume

5. Go to the Preferences dialog and select 'Last.fm'

Alberto Garcia 2009-12-15 10:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yukop4 (Post 428690)
so far yes but i have not tried the old version for a few weeks-so i do not know about long term-i paid the $3 to try the new version and see what the free downloads are like -if they are no better than what is already freely available then i will NOT use vagalume at all

The service doesn't change, read the original announcement here:

http://blog.last.fm/2009/03/24/lastf...o-announcement

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In order to keep providing the best radio service on the web, we need to ask our listeners from countries other than USA, UK and Germany to subscribe for €3.00 per month
http://www.last.fm/group/Last.fm+Web...7212/_/8966064

Quote:

Only subscribers will be allowed to stream using API applications unless you negotiate a separate deal with us - we need to get the money to cover royalties.
The funny thing here is that, if what you say is correct, applications using the old API (e.g. Vagalume 0.7.1) still work even if you don't have a subscription. An that's a shame. I spent a lot of time adapting Vagalume to use the new API.

Den in USA 2009-12-15 13:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alberto Garcia (Post 428707)
The funny thing here is that, if what you say is correct, applications using the old API (e.g. Vagalume 0.7.1) still work even if you don't have a subscription. An that's a shame. I spent a lot of time adapting Vagalume to use the new API.

Alberto, it is true, version 0.7 worked fine. As soon as I installed version 0.8 it started giving me the URL error message. Maybe your team will find a bug and give us an update.

Frank Banul 2009-12-15 14:27

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I don't think there is a bug in 0.8. It's just that last.fm hasn't turned off the old API. If and when they do, only 0.8 will work if and only if you provide a key.

Frank

Jaffa 2009-12-15 14:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alberto Garcia (Post 428707)
The funny thing here is that, if what you say is correct, applications using the old API (e.g. Vagalume 0.7.1) still work even if you don't have a subscription. An that's a shame. I spent a lot of time adapting Vagalume to use the new API.

Setting old_streaming_api to 1 does, indeed, get me accessing Last.FM - without being a subscriber - in exactly the way that Vagalume on my N810 does.

Alberto Garcia 2009-12-15 14:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 428999)
Setting old_streaming_api to 1 does, indeed, get me accessing Last.FM - without being a subscriber - in exactly the way that Vagalume on my N810 does.

That's good to know, I think I can release a new Vagalume version with a workaround so that it uses the old API automatically if the new one doesn't work.

Alberto Garcia 2009-12-15 15:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 428999)
Setting old_streaming_api to 1 does, indeed, get me accessing Last.FM - without being a subscriber - in exactly the way that Vagalume on my N810 does.

It doesn't work for me here, maybe it depends on the country.

Can you try with this patch?

http://pastebin.ca/1715740

(I can prepare a package for you if you want)

Jaffa 2009-12-15 15:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alberto Garcia (Post 429060)
It doesn't work for me here, maybe it depends on the country.

Maybe, I am in the UK.

Quote:

Can you try with this patch?

http://pastebin.ca/1715740

(I can prepare a package for you if you want)
I don't have time to get the source, apply the patch and build a binary - but if you email me a binary (doesn't need to be a full-blown package), I'll happily test it.

Alberto Garcia 2009-12-15 15:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 429072)
Maybe, I am in the UK.



I don't have time to get the source, apply the patch and build a binary - but if you email me a binary (doesn't need to be a full-blown package), I'll happily test it.

Ok, it appears to work, expect a new Vagalume release soon. Thanks for helping me debug the problem.

andrewfblack 2009-12-15 20:26

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I'm not getting same error you guys are getting I"m getting a network connection error for both Last.fm and Libre.fm I checked and I am online.

racky 2009-12-15 20:49

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Yes, don't upgrade if your old version works. I need to downgrade back to the 7.1 version for it to work again. It doesn't make sense at all. All I want is to listen to the music for free. I don't care about all the other functions.

fixfox 2009-12-16 10:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewfblack (Post 429492)
I'm not getting same error you guys are getting I"m getting a network connection error for both Last.fm and Libre.fm I checked and I am online.

I was getting same error as you are with version 0.8

I downgraded to version 0.7 and all is well.

Alberto Garcia 2009-12-16 15:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fixfox (Post 430227)
I was getting same error as you are with version 0.8

I downgraded to version 0.7 and all is well.

I've just released 0.8.1, it should fix those problems. Can you
please confirm it once the packages reach maemo-extras ? Thanks!

Den in USA 2009-12-16 18:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alberto Garcia (Post 430549)
I've just released 0.8.1, it should fix those problems. Can you
please confirm it once the packages reach maemo-extras ? Thanks!


Alberto, Version 0.8.1 works fine, thanks!

bmouring 2009-12-16 22:03

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Those who got LastFM working: did you insert a valid api key/secret that you applied for? I ask since Libre.fm works fine for my 8.1 install but I get a "Network connection error". I took the XML snipped posted earlier and modified it by only changing the old_streaming_api entry.

Den in USA 2009-12-16 22:24

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[QUOTE=bmouring;431070]Those who got LastFM working: did you insert a valid api key/secret that you applied for? QUOTE]

No. I just installed version 0.8.1 and it ran.

Frank Banul 2009-12-16 23:57

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I tried downloading the XML file and changing old_streaming_api to 1 with 0.8.1 on an N900 (I figure that over WiFi would not violate the terms of last.fm), and I get a network error. This is with no key. I was hoping that this version would fall back to the working API. Is that not the case?

thanks,
Frank

fixfox 2009-12-17 06:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alberto Garcia (Post 430549)
I've just released 0.8.1, it should fix those problems. Can you
please confirm it once the packages reach maemo-extras ? Thanks!

I'm still getting "network connection error" with version 0.81 even though I have a valid last.fm account.

I've switched back to 0.71 once again and that seems to work flawlessly.

silvermountain 2009-12-17 08:26

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0.8.1 gives "Network Connection Error"

Where is a lower, working version? The 0.8.1 is not working for me.


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