Xperia XA2 vs X
Been searching for reasons to upgrade my xperia x to xa2. So far it seems not to improve much. Battery capacity is notably better, CPU power seems slightly better, bluetooth is version 5 but front cam quality is worse, gpu is worse (?) and it is thicker than X.
What are your reasons to upgrade? Did i miss something? This leaves me begging if there are adaptations coming to xa2 variations with better specs. There is a bigger screen plus etc version with top specs which would be delicious for multitasking. |
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I don't think that the CPU power is better but I think the CPU should be more efficient. Together with the bigger battery that should give us an outstanding operation time.
Design is better. But that's a matter of taste. Beeing thicker it allows me to hold it save in my hands without a cover. The x was to thin in my opinion. Screen is slightly larger, boarders are thinner. So having a bigger screen without making the phone larger is an advantage. Bluetooth isn't good on X so hopefully that gets better with XA2. XA2 is getting Android 8, X probably just 7. Faster LTE Standard Cat 12/13 vs. Cat 6. So all together, the only real technical reason for a switch in my opinion is the operation time. There are some "nice to haves", but nothing what changes to much. |
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If I had an X I would not change it...why paying a new device and a new license for almost nothing? If the X does not satisfy you, maybe it's better to switch back to Android, the same phone could give you a lot more depending what you need.
I don't want to be pessimistic, but I am pretty sure that even the XA2 won't be bug-free. This is Sailfish and I like it even with its few functionalities, since I am writing with a Nexus 5 with still SFOS 2.0.4 Nice to be part of this OS development, but not so nice wasting resources and playing the market game, changing phone once a year. |
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Just to throw in that the screen is a bit bigger too - about 5.1 mm :D
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There is an issue with XA2 TA partition backup, there is no known way to do it. This means that XA2 phones cannot be restored to their original state, or claim guaranty.
In terms of specs XA2 is marginally better that X, but I think the overall UX will be much better, at least for the android environment. How much of that will be supported from SFOS X is not known yet. Also XA2 has more variants from X and it seems SFOS X will be supporting some of these variants from the beginning. |
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And even if this issue exists. The device is part of the Open Device Program. I can't imagine Sony would try to refuse warranty. And at least in Germany law, there must be a link between the defect and what you have done to a device. Just for example: If you decide to spray the seats of your car pink. The car manufacturer can't claim that, when you have a engine break down. |
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I would not change my SFOS for anything. It has served me better than Androids ever can. I still may update to XA2 just out of curiosity and support.
But what made me now very curious is what pagis said. Do you know for a fact that more XA variants will be officially supported? That would be awesome. I would very much like to see SFOS on a cutting edge phone. |
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Edit: Actually the XA2 Plus (voyager) will also be supported. For the source, look for instance at https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-...dff8e9ccf71654 |
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XA2 Dual SIM (H4113) and the XA2 Single SIM (H3113) will be initially supported, and hopefully other variants will be supported soon, or at least that's the intention? |
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I will definitely wait until I get the first reports, if I'm right with my expectations regarding battery life. I also think at the beginning there will be some annoying bugs. just like the time when Sailfish X hit the market. So this time I don't have to be the first one. If I'm wrong regarding battery life I will stay with my X. The XA2 is at the limit for me regarding size, so Plus and Ultra are no options for me. |
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The three devices depend on the same platform "nile". So I guess they minimise the efforts while trying to have a multi-size offer. I expect that android support for example will be really similar or ideally the same (only dpi and screen concerns will matter afaik). |
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Well if Someone can't wait: There is a post from James regarding the Plus on Jolla's blog, which is in my opinion a clear statement:
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sony xa2 is better than xperia x.
better bezeless better glass better design better usb better cpu perhaps ... |
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If XA2 Plus support comes official then it is big congats to Jolla for a bold move. There is nothing like showing off OS with top hardware.
And makes super happy sailors. |
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Does it have 6G RAM?
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Also bigger screen (but ultra has it too) and slightly better screen to body ratio. GSMArena reviews rated the XA2 series as overpriced at used hardware. |
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And for sailfish............ well, there's not enough app to fill that RAM anyway :rolleyes: |
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Yes, qt itself has somewhat a large memory footprint so some extra is never a bad idea.
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On the other hand our phones are more or less notebooks a few years back performance wise, so it might make sense to use them the same way, either when fooling around as a developer/it enthusiast or when the phone no longer works as a mobile device but rather like a static one (say a device with smashed screen or bad battery acting as a lightweight server). In such cases it could be RAM rather than the CPU or permanent storage acting as a bottleneck. For a few not-really-mobile-but-interesting use cases that might be RAM intensive:
So even if it might seem absurd, I say more RAM can't hurt, as long as there are not critical downsides of that, such as very bad power consumption or all devices being too expensive due to excessive amount of RAM. |
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Well, somewhat good news is that Sony Xperia XA2 (pioneer) is supported by LineageOS 15.1 :D
https://download.lineageos.org/pioneer |
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@acrux How that can be good news? Lineage s-h-i-t is anyways android so I don't get it. Sure Lineage is better than stock androids like less spying etc. But it's Still power hungry, unstable and evil operating system.
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One man's "evil" is another's "usable".
A mobile phone is primarily a communication device. What good is one with a "nice" operating system that you cannot use for that basic purpose? That is the real reason people still flock to "evil" operating systems: the availability of communication solutions (as well as other "apps"). |
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1. You have more choice: stock android; sailfishos; lineageos; some other rom thanks to Sony open device program... 2. What's wrong with Android? Yes, it is almost dominating the mobile world, but we should be thankful to Google releasing it's source code through aosp. This makes LineageOS and other rom's possible. In fact - LineageOS is fully open source (except vendor firmware&drivers). We can't say that about SailfishOS (using the same vendor firmware&drivers through libhybris + closed bits in SailfishOS itself). We may go even further and say that SailfishOS on real hardware would not existed if there did not exist Android :D 3. To my experience LineageOS is very good on my Nexus 6. I have not installed any Google Apps package to it and using only open source software repository F-Droid. It has been very stable through all the weekly builds. I do not remember any need to restart it except these weekly upgrades. As of power hungriness - my December 2015 Nexus 6 lasts longer than December 2017 XperiaX at my usage pattern. Well - if with Gapps, then it could be vice-versa... As of evilness - Android is controlled by US and SailfishOS by Russia :P I do not remember a case through history that US has tried to conquer and occupy Finland (or Estonia)... 4. Best greetings to the other side of Gulf of Finland :) |
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https://download.lineageos.org/discovery |
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Speed comparison between X and XA2... Most likely the newer kernel helps, as the hardware is very similar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gCDTiK0BOM |
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In case of an upgrade i would only choose Xperia XA2 Plus 6Gb/64Gb. Apart from that i think there is no big difference
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It depends on what value you attach to the Android compatibility layer which may never be upgraded for the X ...
edit: additionally in the future XA2 may receive more love from Jolla developpers compared to the X which is already likely at its best ? |
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The size of JollaC was/is just on the edge for my not-so-small hands. The size of the XA2 Plus/Ultra is definitely to much for easy, fast and safe handling. I guess I need an old small Nokia 8210 for phone activities and the other maybe a Sony or Gemini or "chenPhone"? |
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well, that why the one hand mode exist on many android phones
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