Only boots up in RD Mode
N900 does not boot up in normal mode but boots up in R&D mode.
Normal Mode: Phone comes on the and nokia logo fades away but does not restart When charger in it keeps restarting |
Re: N900 does not boot up but boots up in R&D Mode
And the battery does not charge
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Re: N900 does not boot up but boots up in R&D Mode
Remove the charger, remove the battery for a few minutes
Put the battery back in - DO NOT turn the phone on or even try to. Plug the charger in, leave it to charge for a few hours before turning the phone on even if it doesn't appear to be charging at first It should be fine then. |
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Still not working
When I plug it in when its on it says Not Charging |
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Help anyone only boots up in RD mode is gets stuck when I disable on start up.
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Nobody could solve this?? I'm having this same issue, tried reflashing, enabling and disabling R&D mode, removing the battery for a whole day and NOTHING!! I appreciate any help..
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Have you try to reflash the kernel only??
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As soon as I get the phone I reflashed the device but the problem of booting still persisted. Just booting in R&D mode makes it start.. |
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reflashed the emmc plus firmware ??
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you get cheated?? sorry, I cant help, reflash also nil help , really dont know |
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I think it can be fixed because it boots perfectly in R&D mode, so I don't think it's a hardware failure. Thanks anyway! |
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The device is probably in no-usb-charging mode.
Anyways, unset the RD flags and try a cold flash. |
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If the device was really out of power, r&d mode wouldn't let it boot. |
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AFAIK R&D mode disables certain watchdogs + make keyboard blinking on "disk" activity - many people (including hawaii, from top of my head) are using it for everyday work with device. So, this MY not be tragic, but...
...but there IS certainly something wrong with the device, if it boot only that way [obvious statement]. My absolutely uneducated guess is that for some reasons, watchdog reset device into loop, and using R&D avoid watchdog. Ho ever, event that cause watchdog to reset in non-R&D mode still exist happily. If Mentalist idea about syslog doesn't help, I'm also out of ideas. |
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Hello everyone, I'm going to install syslog inmediately.. I will post the logs as soon as I can. I really appreciate your help, thanks!
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Hi, I installed syslog using apt-get install sysklogd.. Where do I find the log files? is a .log extension file?
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Had the same (not exactly) issue. Formatted optfs from ubuntu. Then did a cold flash. Flashed with an image with backupmenu. Restored backups with backupmenu. Not sure about order or images.
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Hello again.. Now I think it could be a battery monitor problem. When maemo starts up (in R&D mode) the battery life keeps low and after 5 minutes of use a notification appears telling "battery low" (altough the battery is fully charged --i use a nokia 5800--). However, I can use the phone for like 5 hours using wi-fi, web browser, app manager.
Minutes ago, I installed Nitdroid but when it's booting a red light starts blinking and then shuts down (the android desktop appears telling: "Shutting Down"). I read that this is because a BME problem. What do you think? |
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update: I installed Meego 1.1 and it boots ok (a little slow but i think it's because my sd card is class 4). I tried to charge the battery when Meggo started up, the battery icon showed like it would be charging but the phone led didn't turn on or blink, after some time the phone turned off because the battery drained.
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bq_27200 chip damaged? How do You charge battery anyway, using external charger?
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Go install i2c-tools from extras-devel(ignore the warning).
Here's the charge-script used in backupmenu; should tell you something: Code:
#/bin/bash Then run it. Every ~10 or so seconds, you'll get a message telling what's going on. |
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Thanks. I will post the log later..
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To elaborate on Estel's previous post, not only Hawaii, but MohammadAG and I also run our N900s in R&D mode regularly. If you disable the keyboard flickering battery life should be identical.
The only difference, depending on what flags you set, is that sometimes your device might hang instead of spontaneously reboot (as in, some deep system process will crash and normally watchdogs or lifeguard reset would reboot the device - with those disabled, if you choose to do so, the device won't reboot itself during some of those crashes and sometimes you have to pull the battery if it's something important that crashes. The advantage is that sometimes stuff will crash and then restart and while you notice it, your device doesn't reboot on you, which is nice, and the "crucial" process that the system supposedly had to reboot for a lack of just restarts and the device keeps working. Honestly even when it hangs and has to be rebooted/battery-pulled, I MUCH prefer to do that than have the device spontaneously turn off on me. One is just irksome, the other is like a slap in the face with barb wire and poison ivy tangled together. |
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There are only two things that bothers me: 1)I can't charge the battery and, 2) I can't run Nitdroid. Is there any "hack"to disable or trick the battery monitor? PS. I will post the log from i2c-tools in a couple of minutes |
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Also tried with: modprobe bq27x00_battery, the results were all 0 but the voltage, current, temp and design:
cat /sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/capacity 0 cat /sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/charge_full 0 cat /sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/charge_now 0 cat /sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/time_to_empty_avg 0 cat /sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/time_to_empty_now 0 cat /sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/time_to_full_now 0 cat /sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/charge_full_design 2056320 |
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Just little addition to what Mentalist said - AFAIK device hanging totally instead of rebooting has one disadvantage - possible filesystem corruptions. Watchdogs tends to unmount filesystem before rebooting, just like bme does (#fixme if I'm wrong).
Anyway, especially this line: cat /sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/charge_full_design 0 ...makes me wonder, if Your ID pin of battery is even connected/recognized? That could be source of problems, BUT - (another AFAIK) bme turns device on in < 1 second when unable to probe ID pin. I never heard that R&D mode disables this behavior - can someone running on R&D confirm/deny this? And, wasn't temperature also probed on ID pin? :confused: It's VERY strange all together. could other people, reporting there "same issues" do similar cat probing? I think first of all, we need to check if it's "reproduceable" problem, that may hit some devices, or jvollmann's troubles are unique, and other doesn't share same symptoms. From top of my head i would still say "damaged bq_27200 chip", but somehow voltage and temp is probed correctly... Huge WTF. |
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# chmod +x /home/user/MyDocs/charge.sh # |
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From output You provided, it seems that You only chmod it. Now, You need to run it.
Also, you placed it in MyDosc, while Robbie clearly asked You to place it anywhere EXCEPT MyDocs or vFAT partition of microSD. vFAT is set as noexec on N900. [off-topic]Robbie, it's same script that shadowjk created for HEN? If that, is it latest version?[/off-topic] |
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# cat /sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/temp # 333 #cat /sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/voltage_now # 3858000 # cat /sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/current_now # 168147 It's all very weird,,, hope all the community can help! |
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non-zero outputs are perfectly fine - 168 mAh current @ probing moment, 3,858 V battery (~50 %) and 33,3 Celsius scale battery temperature.
Also, we posted on almost very same moment, so please check my last post in case You missed it. |
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# chmod +x /home/charge.sh # ./charge.sh : not found line 3: :not found line 9: . . . / 1000 / 20 line 88: syntax error: 0x0000 I checked i2c-tools just in case I forgot to install but it is installed. |
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"cat /sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/charge_full_design 0" the actual value is: 2056320, i missed that! I know that confused you but I wrote it from the phone's terminal to the pc and thought that was also 0... About other people with similar problems: I wrote a private message to @mega (the guy who started this thread), and he told me that he solved the problem taking the phone to a nokia center. I also wrote on quokka's thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...03#post1049103 , and asked him to try R&D mode to see if he has similar issues. |
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Just to know (correct me if i'm wrong):
The problem with restart loop is that the device won't start up because the battery charge is low (or the device "thinks" is low, as it's my case). I guess that this step is skipped on R&D mode and that's why it can boot perfectly when one enables it. |
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Not for sure. Info you get from bq_27200 module is read-only data, independent from bme (battery monitor entity), which MAY or MAY NOT think the same - unfortunately, AFAIK we can't check this, thank to Nokia closed source bme (curse them 1000 times for that, for MANY reasons).
So, ID PIN is definitely probed correctly. Ho ever, at least bq_module think, that battery capacity at full charge is still 0 - this may be symptom of problem, but may also mean that bq module haven't had a chance to perform internal calibration of values (which shouldn't cause the problem on itself). I think You could try 2 things, independent from each other: 1. Flash some framebuffer kernel, and see on which point normal boot-up fails 2. In R&D mode, install HEN + shadowjk charge script (this one surely work outside backupmenu) - You can find it in HEN thread (normally, it's used to charge while USB hostmode. Then, monitor voltage using bq_27200 module, and when it's close to 3,300V, enable HEN (this is easiest way to stop bme without risk of restart after 32 seconds, ho ever may be also possible by executing "kill bme" from terminal as root - I don't know if it triggers restart after 32 seconds in R&D also, so using HEN is 100% sure and won't hurt in any case), then wait for voltage to drop lower than 3,200 V. Then, quickly enable shadowjk's charge script, and charge it to the full (without disabling HEN!). After charge cycle is done, check again if charge_full is still reported as 0 by bq_27200. Explanation: bq_27200 module perform "learning cycle" (referred by me earlier in this post, as "calibration of internal values") IF voltage drops below 3,248 AND device doesn't shut down before being charged to 100%. Unfortunately, bme shuts down device @ ~3,200 (little lower), so it's hardly to ever happen. That may be (or may not) be the cause, why Your charge_full is reporting 0. Doing that, we at least check it all bq_27200 reports can be correct - this way, it's most unlikely that bq_27200 chip is damaged. Still, nothing sure for 100%, but at least we can filter out one possible symptom. |
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Where can I download a "framebuffer kernel"?
I read about "jrBME" that should replace BME but activity percentile is 0%. The project was registered on 2010-06!! Well, I'm going to try these options and I'll let you know how it works. Thanks |
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