[WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

Based on the awesome work by romaxa, freemangordon, CODeRUS, Marxian et al. I have a first taste of a specific fremantle UI for embedlite.

http://maemo.qwazix.com/alopex/splash.png

only for CSSU-thumb
It will obliterate your rootfs with over 40mb worth of things going to /usr

The actual application (~1mb) is still not optified but the big bulk (xulrunner) is optified.

Now it shouldn't take anything significant in rootfs (about 200kb)

There are some known bugs like the fact that links that open in new windows do not work (empty windows open) and that performance takes a hit when used in non-fullscreen. In general this is a very early preview and very few things work, but you can generally browse without big problems.

Enough with the prologue, here it is: http://maemo.qwazix.com/alopex/

Install all the deb files there. They have dependencies between them so best way is to download them all in one directory and so that you let apt decide the right order for installation.

Sources are available at
https://github.com/tmeshkova/
https://github.com/freemangordon/
https://github.com/qwazix/
https://github.com/CODeRUS/

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

Nice initiative, hope it works out to be a good or even better alternative to the other browers.

However, I am hitting a dependency issue:

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

I also had to apt-get libqjson before installing

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

Thanks so much for this !
Although I try very hard to swipe from the bottom of the screen,I can't manage to make the url bar appears
But running from cli with the -url option works fine

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

It is a bit tricky, try using your finger nail to swipe from off the screen up or try in portrait as this seems more successful to get the URL bar to come up.

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

@sixwheeledbeast: it works thanks

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

Two more things:
- It would be more clear to put Alopex package in the network group (now it ends up in others)
- The virtual keyboard is almost unusable, as there is no "go" button after entering an url

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

got to be one of the most professional splash images i've seen for an open source project for a while

on a side note, do you plan to support fennec/firefox extensions? eg. adblock

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

Looks absolutely ingenious and promising. After following it's development since early ideas, I can just say big "thank you!".

I'm just little sad, that UI have to be in QT, with all it's keyboard input problems, like ignoring half of hardware keymap, and generally, having xkb in "high regard".

When we're at it, is there any cursor mode planned, or at least some modifier to allow hovering without clicking? Is right/middle mouse button (achievable on N900 via xbindkeys and xdotool, but again, I'm not sure if QT doesn't ignore it...) planned to be supported? How it perform with USB or bluetooth mouse connected?

/Estel

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

Is there any chance to get this in the cssu thumb repo soonish?

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

Thanks everybody for the support.

Regarding qt, I unfortunately have absolutely no idea about coding in GTK+ and I hear it's far more difficult to use.

Regarding the possible features the list with is overwhelming. The plan is to make the most basic things work for now, and if there is time and interest, move on to more advanced ones.

Flyser, you've got to ask the repo maintainers about this.

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

Hooray for innovation on the N900!
Maemo community rulez!

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

Unpacking replacement qt-components-hildon ...
rmdir: unrecognized option `--ignore-fail-on-non-empty'
BusyBox v1.10.2 (Debian 3:1.10.2.legal-1osso31+0cssu0) multi-call binary

Usage: rmdir [OPTION]... DIRECTORY...

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

Installation complete! But...there isn't any type of change, no swipe! My microB it's always the same. :(

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

It's a new browser. Based on Firefox. Check you app list for Alopex.

I have not be able to swipe correctly yet I guess. Been swiping up all day long and can't get to reveal the address bar. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks :)

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

Thank you, I didn't understand.

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

Hm, sorry for that, it must be because I have busybox power. You can remove the /usr/lib/qt4/imports/org/ directory manually, or just leave it there, it does no harm.

I'll fix that for the next version.

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

Hi ! I get these errors :

I dont get it....I have latest thumb (7.2) installed. Any idea ?

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

enable thumb catalog
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
apt-get -f install

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

That worked, thanks !

That is really encouraging work you did there you all ! A few remarks :
While in landscape mode, I never got to swipe up the address bar without stylus. It seems one needs to put the stylus REALLY accurately between the bottom of the screen and the "catch" line. It's easier in portrait mode by far.
I managed to read some videos although it was really slow !
Zoom in/out through volume buttons would be welcomed :)

Looking forward new versions to test !

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

and just because a great UI needs a great engine, I want to offer to cooperate you. If you agree I will work on improving the xulrunner. That way you will have less to worry about and will improve your efficiency on coding the UI. If you haven't seen my work on Fennec go check it out, I achieved twice the performance of a stock Fennec. But now mozilla has removed 'mobile/xul' directory and that means no newer Fennecs can be made for Maemo....

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

You should start by reading this: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Embedding/IPCLiteAPI

Also checkout the sources: https://github.com/tmeshkova

And join the other guys on IRC: irc.mozilla.org in channel #embedlite

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

I have read it ~ 10 times already :D
I just must have some free time because I have lots of work now :)

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

If you have some time I'd greatly appreciate if you could work on the middleware. I.e. I make a bookmarks screen and you make it communicate with the underlying mozilla, same for sync, find in page, save as pdf etc.

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

We 'r going to discuss it next week, because right now I'm really overwhelmed at work. Just leave me a real-time chatting client contact - skype, irc, etc. & I will get back to you - monday/tuesday :)

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

We're discussing at #embedlite on mozilla irc as Morpog already mentioned

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

i noticed ff20's changelog mentioned support for slower armv7 on android. wondered if you guys seen it and if it helps us out as well

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

I would be very thankful to someone, who would do GTK UI for this, and maintain it feature-complete in pair with QT oneee. Thankful to the point of donating something special, that I'm close to bringing into reality, now ;)

/Estel

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

I would have put an effort but since I have joined the irc room nobody took their time at least to introduce me to the project...There are several git sources for each package, but nobody explained that to me. They were just like 'here is the wiki http://www.bla.bla/' follow the instructions. Only qwazix let me know some days ago that there are several more githubs which I should get. I didnt even suspect that before the chat with him.

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

Have you actually tried doing that? If wiki/instructions are incomplete, it may be good idea, to let project maintainers know about it (assuming, that you don't know enough, yet, to fix instructions yourself).

/Estel

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

Of course I did...I'm starting to think that you all think I'm stupid...

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

Sounds like you had a frustrating experience - as for the stupid part, your history speaks for itself to the contrary.

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

Project, idea, work, developers... all great!
...Except the name!
I can't say why, but to me it's almost impossible to remember or type "alopex" at first try! :)

Does it has some kind of meaning/sense?

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alopex or fox in ancient Greek

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

Impressive, keep up the good work!

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

Just seen in the repositories "qml-browser" package (i use N900) and installed it - is this and alopex are the same? how can i use it to start and open a link from command line?

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

It's not the same but it uses hildon components (Marxian) which is why it looks the same.

I am surprised there isn't a separate thread for QML browser.

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

H23.64 decoder:) so it should be playing rstp:(

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

which command line can be used to start alopex with a url? (if possible)

Re: [WIP] Alopex: a mozilla embedlite implementation on fremantle
 

Try:
./qmlMozEmbedTest -url google.com

Works on QmlMozBrowser, as Alopex is based on it, it should work too.