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JohnHughes 2011-10-13 08:59
N9 poor WIFI?
 
I've had my N9 for a day now and like it quite a lot.

The GSM/3G radio seems to be very good, I get connections in places where my N900 couldn't (the tunnel between Nation and Gare de Lyon on the RER for example!).

The WIFI however is abominable.

At home I get no WIFI in my bedroom, where the N900 is showing at least 40%

At work the N900 sees my office WIFI at 20% The N9 often can't see it at all, and won't connect when it can.

In both places if I go sit right next to the WIFI access point it works.

What experience do others have?

marrat 2011-10-13 09:25
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
Yes, I also have pretty bad WiFi reception, and having troubles with mixed a/g/n WLANs (2,4 + 5 GHz bands)... Connection is established, but stops responding after few seconds... if I set my access point to 802.11b/g only, it works without problems.

strongm 2011-10-13 09:36
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
This is bad news; one of the early claims for the N9 was that the polycarbonate body would result in excellent reception. I assumed this applied to all the wireless technologies in the phone

benny1967 2011-10-13 10:04
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
I don't (yet) have the N9 myself, but read two independent reviews so far stating that WiFi was a weak point. (Not only reception in general, but also re-connecting from 3G to known WiFi access points and other issues.)

F2thaK 2011-10-13 10:10
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
dang.

.......................

JohnHughes 2011-10-13 10:35
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by marrat (Post 1108073)
if I set my access point to 802.11b/g only, it works without problems.
Very interesting. I'll have to see if I can configure my home and office WIFI APs like that.

marrat 2011-10-13 11:21
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1108083)
I don't (yet) have the N9 myself, but read two independent reviews so far stating that WiFi was a weak point. (Not only reception in general, but also re-connecting from 3G to known WiFi access points and other issues.)
The reconnect issue is not present at my home, fortunately... But at work I experience this one...

JohnHughes 2011-10-13 12:16
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnHughes (Post 1108098)
Very interesting. I'll have to see if I can configure my home and office WIFI APs like that.
Well, in the office I have a Linksys WAP200 which only does B and G.

azkay 2011-10-13 12:39
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
I dont understand how things like this get into the finished product.
Surely wireless is one of the big things they test for before releasing a product.

Then again, I guess not.

benny1967 2011-10-13 12:42
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by strongm (Post 1108075)
This is bad news; one of the early claims for the N9 was that the polycarbonate body would result in excellent reception. I assumed this applied to all the wireless technologies in the phone
it could be a software problem.

SamGan 2011-10-13 12:47
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
Yes, wi-fi reception of N9 is weaker than other phones. Users in other forums are also complaining.

strongm 2011-10-13 12:48
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1108163)
it could be a software problem.
Let's hope so

slai 2011-10-13 15:58
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
Thank god i dont use wifi...

jalyst 2011-10-13 20:23
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
I'm yet to see any tests indicating how 802.11an performs.
Apparently most people still don't have dual-band routers/AP :confused:

All the feed-back RE performance I've seen about 802.11gn.
Indicates that it actually performs well, it just doesn't hold a signal well.
Could it just be some fine tuning needed?

ziller 2011-10-13 20:42
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
I got actually very good signal quality with my router in N-only mode, but pretty horrible with G-only (connection dropouts, timeouts, very poor reception).

Both were pretty bad power-consumption wise though, so I quickly disabled wifi again completely. I noticed that my battery lasts a lot longer (about 10-12 hours more) when I'm on 3G only.

eMiL 2011-10-13 21:49
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
can't say I experienced any of this coming from the n9 kick-off party! I didn't have i microsim with me so I just used my N900 as wifihotspot. No problems what so ever, even on the subway!
And I'm on my neighbours wifi right now! No problemo!

somedude 2011-10-13 21:52
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1108163)
it could be a software problem.
Another "WON'T FIX"?:p

tissot 2011-10-13 21:57
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
After 5 days of using N9 and 70% of web surfing done using wifi, haven't had any problems there thankfully.

According to Nokia developers specs N9 got 802.11 b/g/n so is a really missing?

jalyst 2011-10-13 22:12
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
It's def. "A" (5Ghz) as well, it has been all along...
If they've change that now to PR1.1+, man I'll be annoyed.

smegheadz 2011-10-13 22:22
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
i always found wifi to be trouble with all my gadgets and wifi capable things. for example some work better then others and there in the same place, i change my wifi settings a little and it's the other way around or 1 doesn't work at all. check things like what band it works bad or not on on your router if you change the settings. are there other wifi networks on the same channel or 3 channels off etc. an example would be turning on my ps3 and the laptop cant see the wifi network but everything else can. there anyone with experience with wifi and chips etc who can advise?

SamGan 2011-10-14 00:16
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
Over here most people use 802.11 n/g/b and the problem is not with dropouts but with reception sensitivity. N9 can't detect weak wi-fi networks while other phones can detect, connect and surf. The problem is not router settings but the N9 itself.

-Tyler- 2011-10-14 04:47
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
very bad news, i always used my N900 with wifi, and if the N9 have such a bad sensitive wifi antena really sucks very bad, not only will make web surfing horrible, but pentesting horrible too and other applications that depends on wifi

AlMehdi 2011-10-14 05:43
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
Made a bug that is similar to this.. It's on a N950 but still. Vote up if you feel this is happens for you too.. http://www.developer.nokia.com/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=501

SamGan 2011-10-14 05:51
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by -Tyler- (Post 1108540)
very bad news, i always used my N900 with wifi, and if the N9 have such a bad sensitive wifi antena really sucks very bad, not only will make web surfing horrible, but pentesting horrible too and other applications that depends on wifi
If you have decent wi-fi signal where you normally use, it should not be a problem. The problem is with marginal areas.

recluse 2011-10-14 06:22
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
Signal is really bad for wifi.
But beyond excellent for 3G :)

Good news is that wifi is still fast with 0 bars. If you move 1 metre away, it just drops the connection though. I think it may just be a glitch.

Maemomd 2011-10-14 06:28
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
Can anyone please test the wifi tethering to see the performance in ad hoc/tether mode? Thanks, want to know if it is both ways or just one way issue in switching. Mine is currently on order.

kureyon 2011-10-14 11:26
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by somedude (Post 1108450)
Another "WON'T FIX"?:p
Even worse: it will be "FIXED in WP8" :D

SamGan 2011-10-14 13:31
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maemomd (Post 1108572)
Can anyone please test the wifi tethering to see the performance in ad hoc/tether mode? Thanks, want to know if it is both ways or just one way issue in switching. Mine is currently on order.
You mean wi-fi hotspot? The wi-fi hotspot function is very stable.

anidel 2011-10-15 17:56
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SamGan (Post 1108554)
If you have decent wi-fi signal where you normally use, it should not be a problem. The problem is with marginal areas.
That's not the case with my N950 with Beta2 firmware.
I have strong signal all over my house and office and I can barely make the N950 connect to WiFi.
That much that I totally removed it and am using 3G all the time (luckily I've got unlimited data).

The same WiFi signal is pretty strong (full bars on all other WiFi devices, laptops) and still the N950 can't connect or looses signal after a bit.

jalyst 2011-10-15 18:30
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
Don't believe they use exactly the same radio though do they?
N9 is likely to use wl1273 or wl1273l
http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtb...emplateId=6123
Then there's the antenna build, & how the signal escapes the enclosure etc.
Not really even worthwhile using the N950 as a basis for how N9 does/doesn't perform.

JohnHughes 2011-10-17 11:12
Re: N9 poor WIFI? Maybe some hope for 1.1
 
Here's someone at Nokia talking about wifi and PR1.1

Quote:
Wifi reception was one of the issues where we had to be dancing on the SAR boundaries. Although wifi in general has been improved by leaps and bounds in 1.1. For me at least, the reception is now perfectly good.
http://konttoristhoughts.blogspot.co...few-other.html

benny1967 2011-10-17 11:36
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
After my first post in this thread, I feel I had to state: Now that I have the N9, I can say it has better Wifi performance for me than the N900 and the C7.

Of course this will probably depend on your routers and other factors, but at least the N9 needn't always perform worse than other devices.

SamGan 2011-10-17 14:09
Re: N9 poor WIFI? Maybe some hope for 1.1
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnHughes (Post 1109896)
Here's someone at Nokia talking about wifi and PR1.1



http://konttoristhoughts.blogspot.co...few-other.html
Did he say PR1.1? Mine is still at PR_005 and wi-fi reception is not up to the mark compared with other phones like N8 or SG2.

JohnHughes 2011-10-17 14:55
Re: N9 poor WIFI? Maybe some hope for 1.1
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SamGan (Post 1109988)
Did he say PR1.1? Mine is still at PR_005 and wi-fi reception is not up to the mark compared with other phones like N8 or SG2.
Actually he said "Harmattan 1.1"

jalyst 2011-10-17 15:47
Re: N9 poor WIFI? Maybe some hope for 1.1
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SamGan (Post 1109988)
Did he say PR1.1? Mine is still at PR_005 and wi-fi reception is not up to the mark compared with other phones like N8 or SG2.
It's not out yet, coming soon....
Will go to N950 devs 1st and very soon going by all the rumours.
Then as happened for the fw currently on most N9's...
It'll prolly be made available to everyone else a couple of wks later.

zoolkhan 2011-10-18 15:45
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
i can confirm wifi reception is worse than on my previous phones/devices:

n8
n97
kindle 3 wifi
c6

noetus 2011-11-12 20:11
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
With the first firmware I had issues connecting to my own router in my own house, or rather, issues with it disconnecting or the connection going 'stale' (connected but no data) after a while. Now I have PR1.1 and it is much better, stays connected to my network all day. I did do a comparison with my N900 though this morning and discovered that while the N900 discovered 27 networks in the vicinity, the N9 discovered only 5. That's a huge difference.

Ermany 2012-01-15 03:06
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
Just got my n9 and i have wifi issues
i can connect to b/.g but limited /.weak signal and distance or it drops
and very very lmited , distance of maybe couple meters to connect to wpa2, which is N wifi,
or else it drops or can't see it. everything else works
i even have my n900 that can connect with no problem , even from outside my house i can connect
I HVE PR 1.,1

SamGan 2012-01-16 06:28
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ermany (Post 1150728)
Just got my n9 and i have wifi issues
i can connect to b/.g but limited /.weak signal and distance or it drops
and very very lmited , distance of maybe couple meters to connect to wpa2, which is N wifi,
or else it drops or can't see it. everything else works
i even have my n900 that can connect with no problem , even from outside my house i can connect
I HVE PR 1.,1
The N9 wi-fi sensitivity is a little weaker than most but not that weak. It should only be an issue in marginal signal areas. If you're getting connection distance of a few metres it is not normal and should be investigated on the basis of hardware/software failure.

Ermany 2012-01-18 20:23
Re: N9 poor WIFI?
 
will the fix be in PR.1.2
with the rumor/confirmed of 3500 Improvements


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