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shmerl 2012-07-06 17:17

PR 1.3 for N950?
 
So what's the story, did Nokia drop releases N950 altogether?

Dave999 2012-07-06 17:32

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Think so. No need to support them since they where free.. Better to try to boot up tizen on them.

www.rzr.online.fr 2012-07-06 17:41

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
maybe it worth to repack debs from n9-pr1.3 fw and install them over n950-pr1.2 ... or maybe other overiding hacks ...

maybe 1st is to rebuild a kernel ?

timoph 2012-07-06 17:46

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
did it actually even get the proper 1.2 release? Dropping n950 "support" makes sense to me since (afaik) the device's purpose was to give application devs a head start before the n9 came out. Related to that: did the qt-components api, etc. even change in the update. If not, it is still 100% usable as a application developer device.

munozferna 2012-07-06 17:48

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
It would be nice to get at least a OCF for PR1.3 !

ajalkane 2012-07-06 17:49

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1233029)
So what's the story, did Nokia drop releases N950 altogether?

Don't know, but probably the maemo staff is spread so thin that N950 is very low priority. So it might very well be PR1.3 is not coming. In fact, I think it's likely it won't come to N950, as we never got even PR1.2 final.

However, it is apparently possible to upgrade N950 to PR1.3 by changing the repositories to N9 repos and going from there. I won't give instructions here as I haven't done it myself. I just read it in #harmattan so at least it seems possible.

qwazix 2012-07-06 17:57

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
There would only be one reason to try upgrading the 950. If they fixed the bug with jumping cursor in textareas. Otherwise I don't think I should have updated the N9 either.

arcean 2012-07-06 18:10

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1233051)
There would only be one reason to try upgrading the 950. If they fixed the bug with jumping cursor in textareas. Otherwise I don't think I should have updated the N9 either.

The bug with jumping cursor? Give me some steps to reproduce and I'll check this on my N950.
Also there's a nice photo on rzr page showing N950 with PR 1.3 :).

shmerl 2012-07-06 19:13

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1233037)
Think so. No need to support them since they where free.. Better to try to boot up tizen on them.

With Harmattan team supposedly leaving Nokia I don't really have hopes for any future updates and I think the community should start paying more attention to Mer/Nemo, since it's what's left and what has a future. I'd use Nemo even now, if not for the lack of proper e-mail client there. I think developers should stop dancing around the dead system, and should pour more resources into community efforts. It's a shame Nokia didn't open source the Harmattan e-mail client though. Such a waste of effort.

m4r0v3r 2012-07-06 20:05

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
maybbe more people will sell the n950s, meaning someone like me can attempt to buy them lol

qwazix 2012-07-06 20:26

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arcean (Post 1233062)
The bug with jumping cursor? Give me some steps to reproduce and I'll check this on my N950.
Also there's a nice photo on rzr page showing N950 with PR 1.3 :).

Try to reply to this message. Start typing but stop before the line wraps. Move the cursor by touching the screen to the middle of the sentence. Press down to go to the end of the sentence to continue writing. Start typing. The cursor jumps to the middle of the sentence, where you touched before.

arcean 2012-07-06 20:45

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1233111)
Try to reply to this message. Start typing but stop before the line wraps. Move the cursor by touching the screen to the middle of the sentence. Press down to go to the end of the sentence to continue writing. Start typing. The cursor jumps to the middle of the sentence, where you touched before.

Works for me. But I‘m also using libmeegotouch from master :D.

damion 2012-07-06 20:55

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1233111)
Try to reply to this message. Start typing but stop before the line wraps. Move the cursor by touching the screen to the middle of the sentence. Press down to go to the end of the sentence to continue writing. Start typing. The cursor jumps to the middle of the sentence, where you touched before.

The n900 did this too. In fact I suspect this is an issue with the t.m.org javascript rich textarea code, more than with the phones.

qwazix 2012-07-06 21:46

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
The N900 never did this to me. It also does it in other websites, and twitter app.

@arcean, care to give a hint how to do that (libmeegotouch from master)
is there a repo, .deb, or do I have to build?

arcean 2012-07-06 21:52

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1233135)
@arcean, care to give a hint how to do that (libmeegotouch from master)
is there a repo, .deb, or do I have to build?

There's a repo @ gitorious: http://meego.gitorious.net/meegotouc...commits/master
Please keep in mind that I'm using this in parallel with PR 1.3.

damion 2012-07-06 21:56

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1233135)
The N900 never did this to me. It also does it in other websites, and twitter app.

Hmm odd. I just had the cursor jump on chrome on an x86 based ubuntu system on this richtext box. These sites could well share the same JS common libraries but also this could indeed be a bug in the JS rendering, but I've never seen this jumping around in a native text box on the phone, only via the browser.

hawaii 2012-07-07 00:01

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
There's really no reason the packages can't be upgraded to the ones from the N9. Even if no OCF bin is released, it should be trivial to OTA an N9, (or extract from N9 OCF) pull the binary packages out of ~archives and re-write the control files to ensure no versioning dependencies happen.

HtheB 2012-07-07 05:53

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
argh...! So after upgrading from beta pr1.2 to pr 1.3, it gives me that annoying warning message everytime i boot the device, like it's on openmode (since pr1.3 has a different kernel, it thinks that I have an openkernel...)

Can't we make a pr1.3 kernel for n950 users? or is the official n9 pr1.3 kernel suitable for the n950 aswell?

jerryfreak 2012-07-07 06:32

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1233104)
maybbe more people will sell the n950s, meaning someone like me can attempt to buy them lol

THIS.

would give my left nut for one of those

LouisDK 2012-07-21 02:50

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1233213)
argh...! So after upgrading from beta pr1.2 to pr 1.3, it gives me that annoying warning message everytime i boot the device, like it's on openmode (since pr1.3 has a different kernel, it thinks that I have an openkernel...)

How did you upgrade your N950?

Using the N9 repos?

LouisDK 2012-07-21 02:54

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
What about this bug: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85609?

It it fixed in PR1.3 for N950?

rainisto 2012-07-21 08:11

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LouisDK (Post 1240601)
What about this bug: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85609?

It it fixed in PR1.3 for N950?

If you mean minor cosmetic feature which is not bug and which only happens in a developer device, then the answer is that of course it's not fixed. And as it's not critical bug in N9 then that feature will remain there.

XenGi 2012-07-24 18:40

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
So does anybody have a tested guide to update an N950 to PR1.3 without completly bricking it?

I tried the N9 repo way and I got an N950 that auto uninstalls every deb package it could find. Even the lockscreen was uninstalled after some minutes.
After reflashing PR1.2 I had a working system but I can't use my SIM card because anything fails everytime I try to flash PR1.2 again. No no mobile internet connect, messages or telephone functions.

arcean 2012-07-24 18:49

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XenGi (Post 1242376)
So does anybody have a tested guide to update an N950 to PR1.3 without completly bricking it?

I tried the N9 repo way and I got an N950 that auto uninstalls every deb package it could find. Even the lockscreen was uninstalled after some minutes.
After reflashing PR1.2 I had a working system but I can't use my SIM card because anything fails everytime I try to flash PR1.2 again. No no mobile internet connect, messages or telephone functions.

0. I Take No Responsibility For Anything.
In any case do not install mp-harmattan-001-pr package!

1. Make a backup.
2. Add N9 repo.
3.
Code:

dpkg -r mp-harmattan-rm680-pr
4.
Code:

apt-get update
apt-get upgrade

5. When upgrade process finishes:
type this in Terminal (SSH prefered):
http://pastebin.com/CgrLRZud
You may have to apt-get install some other installed packages. You're doing this to fix apt-get autoremove, otherwise It'll wipe your OS.
6. Congrats, you may safely reboot the N950 :).

Creamy Goodness 2012-07-24 20:38

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Wow, that's probably not a good idea. I am sure Nokia has a newer build than the publicly released one, maybe we should try asking them for it!

XenGi 2012-07-24 20:43

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness (Post 1242433)
Wow, that's probably not a good idea. I am sure Nokia has a newer build than the publicly released one, maybe we should try asking them for it!

You mean asking Nokia for thr N950 version of PR1.3? I don't think there is one. The last people working on any MeeGo specific had just enough time to publish PR1.3 in a rush. I don't think there is anybody inside Nokia who has a PR1.3 or even pre PR1.3 for our dev phone. And even if there is someone we won't get it.

Arie 2012-07-24 20:44

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XenGi (Post 1242435)
You mean asking Nokia for thr N950 version of PR1.3? I don't think there is one. The last people working on any MeeGo specific had just enough time to publish PR1.3 in a rush. I don't think there is anybody inside Nokia who has a PR1.3 or even pre PR1.3 for our dev phone. And even if there is someone we won't get it.

Please do your research there is a beta PR1.3 for the N950 just not publicly released.... though I'm sure if someone was inclined enough they could find it.

XenGi 2012-07-24 20:48

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arie (Post 1242436)
Please do your research there is a beta PR1.3 for the N950 just not publicly released.... though I'm sure if someone was inclined enough they could find it.

There have to be one because there is a final, but nothing got released.

Creamy Goodness 2012-07-24 20:59

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
That's my point. I'm emailing the one employee I can find from the meego team that linked-in says works there still. I know they have the beta update for 1.3 internally, if they are planning to release it soon then I think you guys should wait. If they're not planning to release it soon, I think you guys should wait. I will not say more.

Btw they can't just fire everyone from the team, if there is a critical security flaw or huge bug found they still need to fix it.

MFaroTusino 2012-08-09 12:08

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Here is my experience guys:

Added the N9 repo from N9QT
apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade
apt-get upgrade

On reboot, disclaimer appears saying modded fw, but this can be fixed prior to the update. Fix can be found on these forums

The fw version, although being PR 1.3, is still signed as 1.2. Therefore, reflashable. I have done this on my own device. No issues have been found.

Edit: I have used the OCF again, and it fails to flash cmt-mcusw

HtheB 2012-08-10 02:16

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/4838/35864111.png

:)

Arie 2012-08-10 02:37

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1249905)

Ok... I have the same... what are you getting at?

LouisDK 2012-08-10 04:33

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MFaroTusino (Post 1249488)
Edit: I have used the OCF again, and it fails to flash cmt-mcusw

In other words the method you described isn't safe?

I'm really careful about flashing my N950 . Don't want it ot end up like a dead brick or to be unflashable.

MFaroTusino 2012-08-10 04:57

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
In other words, if you use that method for 1.3, don't flash it. I fixed the issue myself, and have a device with no issues what so ever, but not many will have the same ability

Arie 2012-08-10 05:25

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LouisDK (Post 1249923)
In other words the method you described isn't safe?

I'm really careful about flashing my N950 . Don't want it ot end up like a dead brick or to be unflashable.

Yeah, if you got it from nokia instead of buying it you wouldnt have to worry about that......

LouisDK 2012-08-10 23:14

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MFaroTusino (Post 1249927)
In other words, if you use that method for 1.3, don't flash it. I fixed the issue myself, and have a device with no issues what so ever, but not many will have the same ability

So you can still flash it with official PR1.2 firmware for N950 if your PR1.3 hack goes wrong?

Arie 2012-08-10 23:43

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LouisDK (Post 1250247)
So you can still flash it with official PR1.2 firmware for N950 if your PR1.3 hack goes wrong?

No

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Rusnak-COBRA 2012-08-11 16:09

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
if there is no safe option to do it, i would say, stay on PR1.2
but... MFaroTusino, can you make an image of your phone maybe, to be flashable for us, others? :)

wook_sf 2012-08-11 19:11

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusnak-COBRA (Post 1250523)
if there is no safe option to do it, i would say, stay on PR1.2
but... MFaroTusino, can you make an image of your phone maybe, to be flashable for us, others? :)

no cfw-ing here :S u forgot? D:

thedead1440 2012-08-11 19:13

Re: PR 1.3 for N950?
 
wook you can do it if you are ready to put your phone into open mode :D


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