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sulu	2018-06-05 11:51

2016/2017 coding competition notice

Hi,

if you visit talk.maemo.org unregistered, you'll still see the notice about the 2016/2017 coding competition at the very top of each page:

Quote:

Maemo Community e.V. - Call for Donations - Coding Competition
Hello Unregistered,

A long-awaited Coding Competition is just around the corner. We are planning this Competition to happen November 2016 till February 2017.

In order to make the Developer Regatta more interesting it should have a prize pool. There is no fixed amount so all donations are very welcome!

Please find info on the fundraiser HERE

Best regards
Ruediger 'Chemist' Schiller
Maemo Community e.V.

I'm sure most of you have clicked that notice away and the rest (like me) has probably adapted to ignore it, but I still find that such an outdated notice creates a bad impression - especially if it's placed so prominently.
I believe the easiest solution would be to simply hold another coding competition for 2018/2019. That way, only the two numbers in the current notice would have to be replaced. ;)

Merienth

2018-06-05 14:28

Re: 2016/2017 coding competition notice

The notice is still there, even if you are registred just simply didn't bother to click the notice away. Seems like throughout the years my brain learned to ignore that part of the page comletely. :)

sulu	2018-06-05 14:43

Re: 2016/2017 coding competition notice

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merienth (Post 1545146)

The notice is still there, even if you are registred just simply didn't bother to click the notice away. Seems like throughout the years my brain learned to ignore that part of the page comletely. :)

Same here. I just clicked it away when creating this thread, so I assumed everyone else has either done that a long time ago, or has become blind for it.

ThomasAH

2018-06-05 15:11

Re: 2016/2017 coding competition notice

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merienth (Post 1545146)

The notice is still there, even if you are registred just simply didn't bother to click the notice away. Seems like throughout the years my brain learned to ignore that part of the page comletely. :)

... wow. You can actually close the announcement? :o I'd never noticed the little 'x' in the top right corner.

Thanks so much. It's finally gone! :)

Tsippaduida

2018-06-05 16:25

Re: 2016/2017 coding competition notice

Yeah, one sucker (me) did not bother read properly that notice on December 2017, so i transferred small amount of funds for competition which was had ended more than half a year ago. Thanks for the closing tip. Gone for now for me.

peterleinchen

2018-06-05 20:51

Re: 2016/2017 coding competition notice

Personally I do not mind that outdated notice (as I clicked it away long time ago). But I do get reminded of it from time to time when opening TMO unregistered.
I believe it is just lack of time (and/or experience/rights of people still active).
It is true, it should be either removed. Or changed to 2018/19 :)

But what I really find annoying is that the power search does not work anymore (Google API v1 deprecate, changed to v2). Anyone experienced in web/html should get the change done pretty fast, or?

pichlo

2018-06-05 22:05

Re: 2016/2017 coding competition notice

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1545164)

what I really find annoying is that the power search does not work anymore

"Anymore"? Are you saying it ever worked? I never used it myself, because wherever I tried, on whatever browser, ever in my life, it has always led to a blank page. Curiously, the only browser it has ever worked with is the stock browser on my daughter's old Android tablet.

juiceme

2018-06-06 03:57

Re: 2016/2017 coding competition notice

I remember using it a lot some years back, so it must have worked at that time unless I'm getting a bit flaky :D

peterleinchen

2018-06-06 06:02

Re: 2016/2017 coding competition notice

Oh yes it worked like a charm (until end of last year?).

@pichlo
are you talking about the 'normal' search on top of page?
Or the power search on the right side.

Of course one may open google and type keywords together with (talk.)maemo.org. But as said a bit annoying. And sad!

velox

2018-06-06 07:42

Re: 2016/2017 coding competition notice

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1545164)

But what I really find annoying is that the power search does not work anymore (Google API v1 deprecate, changed to v2). Anyone experienced in web/html should get the change done pretty fast, or?

I'm what most people call a web guy and could support a bit.

I have not worked with the new custom search, but a (really) quick glance at the documentation revealed that there could be some advantages to register as a non-profit at google if there's interest in doing so. PM me and I'll investigate further so we can continue via Mail.

cheers!

pichlo

2018-06-06 09:28

Re: 2016/2017 coding competition notice

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Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1545172)

@pichlo
are you talking about the 'normal' search on top of page?
Or the power search on the right side.

I know what Power Search is. Strangely, it seemed to work today on all three browsers I tried (Android stock, Sailfish stock and Pale Moon on Windows). I had not tried it for years because it had never worked before, wherever and whenever I tried:

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velox

2018-06-06 12:19

Re: 2016/2017 coding competition notice

I've just had another look at the new Custom Search:
A simple Integration is really trivial with access to the page html, in fact, I have set up one with my account as a test, including some maemo-esque colours. But as I am not a member or representative of Maemo e.V., I don't think that's useful (there seem to be a few search statistics like "top search phrases" to which I would have access).

For a registered non-profit, a free version without ads is available, that might be a nice thing to have. https://www.google.com/nonprofits/

EDIT:
The old search-ID seems to still work. So the working code would be as follows:

Code:

    <script>

        (function() {

          var cx = '012414234624903107508:2laarii9gbw';

          var gcse = document.createElement('script');

          gcse.type = 'text/javascript';

          gcse.async = true;

          gcse.src = 'https://cse.google.com/cse.js?cx=' + cx;

          var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0];

          s.parentNode.insertBefore(gcse, s);

        })();

      </script>

      <gcse:search></gcse:search>

wicket

2018-06-06 17:50

Re: 2016/2017 coding competition notice

Can we not switch to another search provider? One whose business objective isn't to collect as much data as possible on every individual on the planet?

juiceme

2018-06-07 10:37

Re: 2016/2017 coding competition notice

I agree, it is rather pointless to use external provider for searches since the data is in our own servers.

pichlo

2018-06-07 10:59

Re: 2016/2017 coding competition notice

Perhaps switch to this one? ;)

r0kk3rz

2018-06-07 17:42

Re: 2016/2017 coding competition notice

Wait, why do we have 3 search boxes?

What is wrong with this one - http://talk.maemo.org/search.php , which is a mere 3 items down in the same menu...

peterleinchen

2018-06-07 19:59

Re: 2016/2017 coding competition notice

Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1545219)

I agree, it is rather pointless to use external provider for searches since the data is in our own servers.

Yes.
But ...

peterleinchen

2018-06-07 20:01

Re: 2016/2017 coding competition notice

Quote:

Originally Posted by r0kk3rz (Post 1545228)

Wait, why do we have 3 search boxes?

What is wrong with this one - http://talk.maemo.org/search.php , which is a mere 3 items down in the same menu...

... have you ever tried to find anything on TMO/MO with the.standard search?
The only eliable procedure is to use tbe 'google' search (as sad as it is).

peterleinchen

2018-06-07 20:26

Re: 2016/2017 coding competition notice

Quote:

Originally Posted by velox (Post 1545187)

Code:

    <script>

        (function() {

          var cx = '012414234624903107508:2laarii9gbw';

          var gcse = document.createElement('script');

          gcse.type = 'text/javascript';

          gcse.async = true;

          gcse.src = 'https://cse.google.com/cse.js?cx=' + cx;

          var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0];

          s.parentNode.insertBefore(gcse, s);

        })();

      </script>

      <gcse:search></gcse:search>

Thanks!
I support/propose to try that.

wicket

2018-06-07 23:19

Re: 2016/2017 coding competition notice

Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1545219)

I agree, it is rather pointless to use external provider for searches since the data is in our own servers.

Agreed. Right now we have Search and Advanced Search (internal) and also Power Search (external). Are you suggesting we get rid Power Search or replace it with some other internal search?

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1545231)

... have you ever tried to find anything on TMO/MO with the.standard search?
The only eliable procedure is to use tbe 'google' search (as sad as it is).

I'm often able to find what I'm looking for with the internal search. Sometimes I use DuckDuckGo if I can't.

One problem with external search engines like DuckDuckGo or Google is that they index words listed under the "Active Topics" which is displayed on every page. These words may be completely irrelevant to the indexed thread, so you end up with a lot of false positives in the search results.

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1545232)

Thanks!
I support/propose to try that.

This is TMO, not some Android forum. Many people here actually care about privacy. I think it's useful to have an external search option but Google is just unacceptable for many TMO users. Not to mention, why on earth should JavaScript be required for searching? I appreciate that velox is trying help out, so no offence, but I think it's time we got rid of Google.

This would be my proposal:

Code:

<iframe src="https://duckduckgo.com/search.html?duck=yes&site=talk.maemo.org&prefill=Search TMO with DuckDuckGo&focus=yes" style="overflow:hidden;margin:0;padding:0;width:483px;height:60px;" frameborder="0"></iframe>

More info here:

https://duckduckgo.com/search_box

pichlo

2018-06-08 05:16

Re: 2016/2017 coding competition notice

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1545231)

... have you ever tried to find anything on TMO/MO with the.standard search?

Considering that I lived all my life without the "power" one, yes.
"Standard" and "Advanced" were my options.
I never had the desire for anything else.

endsormeans

2018-06-25 22:11

Re: 2016/2017 coding competition notice

Quote:

Originally Posted by sulu (Post 1545139)

Hi,

if you visit talk.maemo.org unregistered, you'll still see the notice about the 2016/2017 coding competition at the very top of each page:

I'm sure most of you have clicked that notice away and the rest (like me) has probably adapted to ignore it, but I still find that such an outdated notice creates a bad impression - especially if it's placed so prominently.
I believe the easiest solution would be to simply hold another coding competition for 2018/2019. That way, only the two numbers in the current notice would have to be replaced. ;)

WHAT!?!?!?!
The 2016/17 coding comp. is over??
Already??
I was expecting it to take another few years to finish yet...
This info and the resultant change is rocking the foundations of my reality...

Fellfrosch

2018-06-26 07:47

Re: 2016/2017 coding competition notice

The question is, will there be a new competition. If so, I have a TOHKBD to donate.

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