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Willowave 2008-12-17 04:11

Eee PC or Sony PSP?
 
I need to pick out a xmas gift for myself. An Eee PC p\or Sony PSP? I already have a N800. I'm asking opinions here cuz it seems we all like the gadgets, and I've noticed alot of people getting the Eee PCs. I'd love to hear opinions on them. Or opinions on any other fun gadgets, that are reasonably priced.

caulktel 2008-12-17 04:26

Re: Eee PC or Sony PSP?
 
Get a Acer Aspire One, you will love it.

Willowave 2008-12-17 04:45

Re: Eee PC or Sony PSP?
 
I'm curious why the Aspire and not the Eee pc? I took a quick look at the specs and for the same price you get a 160 gig HD in the Eee vs an 8 gig in the Aspire. What did I miss?

icebox 2008-12-17 09:00

Re: Eee PC or Sony PSP?
 
my opinion:
neither :) maybe the psp if you plan to game a lot. I was about to sell my n800 with the intention of getting a netbook instead. Fortunately a friend gave me a msi wind and an eee to set-up for him. Hmmm, horible little machines. Hot case, small battery, bad keyboard, useless trackpad. It was good for me - I rediscovered all that I love about the n800.

pycage 2008-12-17 09:21

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I have a eee 901. The battery life is lot better compared to the eee 701 I had before. Under Linux I now get about 5 - 6 hours battery life, compared to about 2 hours. Apart from that I agree with icebox: hot case, bad keyboard (well, it's a bit tiny, so it's not for writing a lot), useless trackpad (as jerky as any other trackpad too; scroll wheel emulation is with two fingers instead of dedicated areas).
It appears that the SSDs are a bit slower than that of the eee 701. But I did not want noise and mechanical parts, so I didn't choose the HDD version. It's a great machine for a portable office. Wherever there's a monitor, keyboard, and mouse, you can connect them and work really well with it (up to 1680 x 1050). The eee fully replaced my old 15" laptop.
I have heard that the MSI wind has a slightly larger keyboard than the eee.

Benson 2008-12-17 16:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pycage (Post 250142)
I have a eee 901. The battery life is lot better compared to the eee 701 I had before. Under Linux I now get about 5 - 6 hours battery life, compared to about 2 hours. Apart from that I agree with icebox: hot case, bad keyboard (well, it's a bit tiny, so it's not for writing a lot), useless trackpad (as jerky as any other trackpad too; scroll wheel emulation is with two fingers instead of dedicated areas).

A lot of that is strongly dependent on your configuration. I'm running Slackware on a 701 (with lots of tweaks, natch) and I get well over 3 hours of battery life when not doing much, and while I have the trackpad using dedicated scroll area, I know that's a software setting, and could change it to two-finger if I wanted. (Conversely, you could change the 901 to scroll-area in software; your OS distribution apparently just has a bad default.) It sounds like you're using the performance governor for cpufreq scaling, or maybe don't have the correct driver installed at all, which is contributing to heat as well as battery life.

I picked it up mainly for hacking hardware into (for kicks), but I find it works decently as a second laptop, and as a primary laptop last week when my big laptop was out of commission. Can't wait till I get the touch screen in, though.
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I have heard that the MSI wind has a slightly larger keyboard than the eee.
It runs a bit more, but I think the HP netbook (mininote/2133) has the best keyboard around, and a higher-resolution (1280x800) display, too. If it weren't for the eminent hackability of the 701, (i.e., if I needed a netbook ;)), it would be my top pick.

GThreepwood 2008-12-17 16:53

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I wouldn't buy a PSP
Altough I am a gamer I don't use mine because there are not enough good games around that are worth playing.

Willowave 2008-12-17 16:59

Re: Eee PC or Sony PSP?
 
Awwww. Benson you got me all excited cuz I looked at the HP and found the new red netbook. It's gorgeous. (yes I am female) But I think thats more than I want to spend on a new toy. Altho...my laptop is getting pretty old. I think I could justify a replacement :D
Whoops..the red one is 300 more than the black. Figures.
Thanks Benson. I would hit the Thank you button but it seems to be....gone....?

andrewfblack 2008-12-17 17:15

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I have n810, PSP and EEE PC. I would say if you tablet go with the EEE PC unless you want to do some gaming then get the PSP but I take my netbook with me everywhere I go I have a 1000HD with 10 inch screen and 120gb hard drive its great. It does it hot if it runs all the time but I normally use it for a few mins maybe an hour tops. Also if you get one do like i did and remap the arrow up and the shift key the way the keyboard is laid out you will be hitting arrow up instead of shift all the time.

Willowave 2008-12-17 17:19

Re: Eee PC or Sony PSP?
 
Will the Ubuntu Mobile run on the HP?

ace 2008-12-17 17:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Willowave (Post 250254)
Awwww. Benson you got me all excited cuz I looked at the HP and found the new red netbook. It's gorgeous...

Note that the HP netbook with the pretty screen (1280x768) only has a slow Via CPU. Not the faster and more popular Intel Atom.

HP does offer a Atom-powered netbook, but Intel doesn't allow high-res screens, so you're limited to 1024x600. :(

sgosnell 2008-12-17 18:00

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For me, the Eee is perfect. The keyboard is small, but it took me about a day to get used to it, and now I can type as fast as I can on a large keyboard, maybe faster. It doesn't get as hot as my big HP laptop, which I gave away because I got tired of lugging all that weight, and then putting up with all that heat. I had to use a chill pad with it, and I got a small one for the Eee, but found I don't need it. I also found that I don't use my N800 very much, either, because the Eee isn't that much bigger or heavier, but it's far more powerful and easier to use. Trackpads are what they are, and while it's easy to hook up any USB mouse, I find that the trackpad works fine for me.

You won't need Ubuntu mobile, because it will run standard distros just fine.

Benson 2008-12-17 19:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Willowave (Post 250254)
Thanks Benson. I would hit the Thank you button but it seems to be....gone....?

NP. :cool:

There's no Thanks! anywhere in the Off Topic forum, presumably so Thanks! counts more reliably measure utility rather than entertainment.

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Originally Posted by ace (Post 250279)
Note that the HP netbook with the pretty screen (1280x768) only has a slow Via CPU. Not the faster and more popular Intel Atom.

HP does offer a Atom-powered netbook, but Intel doesn't allow high-res screens, so you're limited to 1024x600. :(

Faster... not horribly much. The same clock speed, but barely improved performance (from what I've heard, anyway). My Eee 701 has a 900MHz Celeron M (I think the 1.6GHz C7-M should outperform that), and seems adequate, so I wouldn't worry about the performance. I think the Atom would get significantly better battery life, but the C7 should still be livable.

Willowave 2008-12-17 20:19

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And I'm thinking that that resolution on that small of a screen should be ok? I'd think it would be pretty hard on the eyes to have the resolution any smaller. I do like the look of the HP better, a little bit cleaner lines on it. Even if its just the plain ol' black one. :)
And on a side note...is VIA better these days? They used to be kind of crap at times.

eiffel 2008-12-17 20:27

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The Eee PC 901 includes Bluetooth so you can tether from a phone like you can with the N800/810.

febb 2008-12-17 20:32

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Well, for what is worth:

I have no Eee PC, but just got something quite similar: a DELL Mini 9 netbook.

I got an N810 and just bought a DELL Mini 9 Netbook. The Mini 9 is a similar concept as the Eee PC's; very small footprint computers with network access and a full (but usually small) keyboard.

Why I got this? , well: DELL is a good brand, with good worldwide support. We have no Eee where I live, nevertheless I was planning on purchasing one in the USA and bringing it home.

I am glad I didn't ordered it online and get it shipped to my hotel before my arrival because I went to a computer store and saw the Eee PC, they looked extremely cheap to me. Like toys kind of plastic. I saw several models there, the "original" 700 series and some of the 900 line. I didn't like any of them.

Plus features of my DELL Mini 9 are: it has NO fan so it is 100% silent, specially good when you are working at night in your bed, next to someone you dont want to disturb with your laptop's noises.
Drives are Solid State (SSD), I got the 16GB one and they just started selling the 32 GB version
The Mini 9 comes with Linux also (you can order a Windows one if you want to), full support here.
The Mini 9 has an external monitor port which is great for presentations.
It aso has bluetooth, so it can communicate with your Nokia devices and with headsets.

So, my N810 is a perfect companion to my DELL Mini 9, the N810 fits in my shirt pocket, has connectivity which is great for my job and, whenever I need to do something that requires a bit more screen real-estate and/or a more "real-sized" keyboard, the Mini comes in nicely.

Hope this helps a bit.

ace 2008-12-17 20:45

Re: Eee PC or Sony PSP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ace (Post 250279)
HP does offer a Atom-powered netbook, but Intel doesn't allow high-res screens, so you're limited to 1024x600. :(

Replying to myself :)

I found a couple machines have 1280xXXX screens and Atom processors: the Gigabyte M912 and the Dell Mini 12 (its 12" screen probably makes it too big to be called a netbook). So, I guess the resolution restriction has weakened or been eliminated.

I do like the idea of a big netbook, like the Dell Mini 12. Nice screen, near fullsize keyboard, but still light-weight and small enough to easily carry in a bag/backpack/etc. It'd be a useful companion to my large, heavy, desktop-replacement laptop. But the Mini 12 isn't available with a SSD, the graphics card has poor or non-existent Linux support, and initial pricing isn't appealing.

sjgadsby 2008-12-17 20:49

Re: Eee PC or Sony PSP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by febb (Post 250363)
The [Dell] Mini 9 is a similar concept as the Eee PC's...

And refurbished Inspiron Minis are 20% off right now with coupon code "QQ3RLJFHCTTRBG".

Benson 2008-12-17 20:49

Re: Eee PC or Sony PSP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Willowave (Post 250360)
And I'm thinking that that resolution on that small of a screen should be ok? I'd think it would be pretty hard on the eyes to have the resolution any smaller. I do like the look of the HP better, a little bit cleaner lines on it. Even if its just the plain ol' black one. :)

N800 (4" 800x480) is 225 PPI; 1280x800 in 9" is 167 PPI. While I've not seen one in person, a 7" 800x480 is 133 PPI, and I can't imagine that 167 would be a problem.
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And on a side note...is VIA better these days? They used to be kind of crap at times.
Well, yeah... it's not that VIA is awesome (although their new Nano series is not half bad), as much as that Atom's pretty bad; it's got serious performance sacrifices to get decent power savings (which gets eaten by a power-hungry chipset), and is in fact beaten simultaneously in performance and power by AMD K8 desktop chips from ~5 years ago. Celeron Ms are also bad, and AMD hasn't got in yet. There are no really good netbook chips available now, but VIAs, even C7s, are decently competive (IMHO).

ace 2008-12-17 20:53

Re: Eee PC or Sony PSP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by febb (Post 250363)
I got an N810 and just bought a DELL Mini 9 Netbook. The Mini 9 is a similar concept as the Eee PC's; very small footprint computers with network access and a full (but usually small) keyboard.

Why I got this? , well: DELL is a good brand, with good worldwide support. We have no Eee where I live, nevertheless I was planning on purchasing one in the USA and bringing it home.

I like the ease with which the SSD, RAM, and WiFi card can be replaced in the Mini 9. Undo one panel, and there they are. Full disassembly for any upgrade seems common among netbooks.

febb 2008-12-17 21:22

Re: Eee PC or Sony PSP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ace (Post 250368)
Replying to myself :)

I found a couple machines have 1280xXXX screens and Atom processors: the Gigabyte M912 and the Dell Mini 12 (its 12" screen probably makes it too big to be called a netbook). So, I guess the resolution restriction has weakened or been eliminated.

I do like the idea of a big netbook, like the Dell Mini 12. Nice screen, near fullsize keyboard, but still light-weight and small enough to easily carry in a bag/backpack/etc. It'd be a useful companion to my large, heavy, desktop-replacement laptop. But the Mini 12 isn't available with a SSD, the graphics card has poor or non-existent Linux support, and initial pricing isn't appealing.

Yeah, I saw exactly the same thing. That is why I went with the Mini 9...

After all this little machine is for work, mainly while travelling but "AT" the hotel or at an office's desk. Not "while on the road". The N810 is for on the road stuff.

On the desktop side, well.. I do have my full desktop linux workstation with decent screens and decent keyboards. ;)


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