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megaramster 2010-02-03 03:20

n810 as phone
 
is there a way to use the nokia 810 as a phone. using my sprint phone? i heard somewhere thats there a way to use it as a phone via bluetooth or something.

gazza_d 2010-02-03 06:42

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Nah, afraid you heard wrong. There was a port of some software called "nohands" to use the N8x0s as bluetooth handsfree units, but no-one could get the audio to work properly.

If you have the skillset, you are more than welcome to have a look. search these forums for "nohands" - you'll soon find it.

megaramster 2010-02-04 01:20

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thank-you. i probability heard wrong like you said. im thinking about getting the n900 anyway... just wanted to see if it would work for the son.

Markosib 2010-02-04 01:37

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Dunno 'bout your Sprint phone but all the N8**s are capable of tethering via BT. Or simply load Skype or Fring ( you'll need an account ) and use it in any open WiFi network. Calling your Skype or Fring contacts is free. Calling others requires buying Skypeout credit which is still reasonably cheap.

megaramster 2010-02-06 01:34

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thank you......

not wanting to start a new topic:
is there a way to get internet to the n810 not be wifi. like a 3g plan for it/

Laughing Man 2010-02-06 01:39

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You can tether the n800/n810 to another device (like a cellphone) via bluetooth.

But there's no way to get the n800/n810 connected to a 3G network by itself.

coosbaytv 2010-02-06 03:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 512655)
You can tether the n800/n810 to another device (like a cellphone) via bluetooth.

But there's no way to get the n800/n810 connected to a 3G network by itself.

actually, you could use Sprint or Verizon "MiFi".

sjgadsby 2010-02-06 03:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coosbaytv (Post 512713)
actually, you could use Sprint or Verizon "MiFi".

That wouldn't be "by itself" that would be using "another device", exactly as Laughing Man wrote.

coosbaytv 2010-02-06 03:57

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@sjgadsby OK, good call as I reread the post:)

the one thing I was thinking is that this would be great for someone who really doesn't want a cell phone plan to pay for a lot of minutes they wouldn't use.

tip184 2010-02-06 03:59

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Yes, sjgadsby is right - MiFi is another device. However, it's smaller than my N800, has a great battery life, and serves as a wifi hotspot for up to 5 computers within 30 feet. It's a great option for those of us who live in the sticks and can't use cable, DSL, or satellite (it is SO much faster than dial-up!). Verizon subscription is $60/month - only downside is the 5 Gigabyte limit. I use it with my N800 and my thinkpad, while my son is also online with his thinkpad. MiFi usually stays at home, as most of the time when I am out and need internet I can use a free wifi hotspot. If I needed to take it with me it's not much more hassle than carrying a credit card.

megaramster 2010-02-06 04:23

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thankyou.. all of you. im looking up the mifi right after typing this.

wesgreen 2010-02-06 05:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by megaramster (Post 512740)
thankyou.. all of you. im looking up the mifi right after typing this.

Also check out datajack. unlimited data for $40/mo. incldg. taxes.
you'd need a portable router with it to make it work with the n810 i guess. i'm seriously considering this.

MrWeasel 2010-02-06 08:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gazza_d (Post 508019)
Nah, afraid you heard wrong. There was a port of some software called "nohands" to use the N8x0s as bluetooth handsfree units, but no-one could get the audio to work properly.

If you have the skillset, you are more than welcome to have a look. search these forums for "nohands" - you'll soon find it.

I've tried again to debug some time ago. Meanwhile I believe it's a bt problem. I tried with a USB bt-dongle and USB soundcard -> also failed, so at least it seems not to be a hardware limitation. But the arrival of the N900 stopped my efforts.. a shame.

Link to the original topic:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=18868

blue_led 2010-02-11 17:27

n810 as phone ? yes i do
 
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After i bought my N900 i bought also N810,I love maemo platform but n810 can't do calls. Until now !:)
I bought Telit GE865 gprs module ( i know, i know, gprs only :mad: but i wait a new module ) and make pigs fly.
Telit module can do calls with no more than a earpiece, mike, two resistors & capacitors, a battery and an interface with N810.
It has a lot of functionality like fax, tcp stack ant python script interpreter. http://www.telit.com/en/products/gsm...p_ac=show&p=47
Possible solutions of module integration with N810 :
1 stand alone phone with limited conection with 810 only for dialing and sms
2 make full implementation like data connections & usb sd card increased size storage

Module can be hiden under the 810 hood replacing mini sd card slot wich is almost useless.
I do some hardware hack to PL2303 usb-serial bridge cause telit module have 2.8 volt serial interface.

blue_led 2010-02-11 17:33

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2 Attachment(s)
more pics with testing rig

Snoshrk 2010-02-12 03:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tip184 (Post 512729)
Yes, sjgadsby is right - MiFi is another device. However, it's smaller than my N800, has a great battery life, and serves as a wifi hotspot for up to 5 computers within 30 feet. It's a great option for those of us who live in the sticks and can't use cable, DSL, or satellite (it is SO much faster than dial-up!). Verizon subscription is $60/month - only downside is the 5 Gigabyte limit. I use it with my N800 and my thinkpad, while my son is also online with his thinkpad. MiFi usually stays at home, as most of the time when I am out and need internet I can use a free wifi hotspot. If I needed to take it with me it's not much more hassle than carrying a credit card.

Cool : I was just contemplating this as a solution to the complete lack of adequate TMobile signal in rural Iowa....but I'm leery of the 5GB limit. ( really want an n900 and would like to use it data only: Gizmo/google voice / The One Ring/DialCentral)

How often do you hit the 5GB limit?

Have you ever used Skype (video calls) with it?

I haven't been able to get a straight answer from the local Verizon people...does the Verizon Mifi have GPS capability like the Sprint version?

Speaking Sprint: Has Anyone used the Overdrive (Sprint's updated version of the Mifi)?

Thanks

Snow bound in Central IA...:eek:


@blue_led You have waaaay too much time on your hands....I am in awe...:D

blue_led 2010-02-15 18:24

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First steps adding Telit 865 module

1 Remove minisd slot
2 Add microsd slot ( mini-microsd adapter ) provisory until I will replace with spring pop-up microsd slot
3 Attach with double side adhesive tape the Telit module
I have 1 big problem : space for sim . Probably i will remove all plastic of sim and solder directly.

wesgreen 2010-02-16 03:55

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man, this is beautiful1

Mitrandir 2010-02-19 06:39

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Please keep trying and posting!
This is the great idea and if you will have success, i will try to hack my n810 too.

blue_led 2010-03-01 18:59

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until now :
micro sd popup socket in place and wired
sim card in place and wired

to do :
serial to module
gsm antena
status led
mic place and wired
earpiece place and wired

Kham 2010-03-01 19:06

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If you guys can do all of this with the N810, do you guys think you could direct me to some hardware compatible with my N900 to replace the cell chip with a true quadband that supports WCDMA on the 850/ 1900 bands for AT&T 3G?
Thanks,
Kham

blue_led 2010-03-01 19:11

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no.
I use quad band module as it is

cedar 2010-03-02 16:47

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thanks for your posts, blue_led!
looking good
keep us updated.

verumgero 2010-03-02 22:54

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This is amazing. You are going to have to let us know how it all pans out. I think I might have to replicate this whole process.

Mitrandir 2010-03-03 05:29

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Cool! Doesn't microsd card prevents inserting battery?

Isn't your gsm module yet connected to CPU? Actually, i don't thing that using n810 as phone will be useful, but GPRS/EDGE costs the efforts for sure.

mobiledivide 2010-03-03 06:10

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Very impressive blue_led, I was wondering if anyone was ever going to try something like this. I'll be following this thread.

vkv.raju 2010-03-03 06:31

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First, amazing work being done here. Congrats!!
Is this hack possible on N800? Can N800 be used as a phone too?

blue_led 2010-03-03 16:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitrandir (Post 553415)
Cool! Doesn't microsd card prevents inserting battery?

Isn't your gsm module yet connected to CPU? Actually, i don't thing that using n810 as phone will be useful, but GPRS/EDGE costs the efforts for sure.


@all
thank you for appreciations !
@vkv.raju I don't know . i never see an N800.

No.
SD card is not full inserted.I let it out for photo session.

Connections with CPU ? Well ...I will use debug serial port and telit module will be driven by standard AT commands.
A GUI will be come.

Sending and receiving sms from n810 ... priceless.

Mitrandir 2010-03-04 07:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blue_led (Post 554208)
I will use debug serial port

Hmm... R&D flags description page says that enabling serial port will cause shorted battery life: http://wiki.maemo.org/R&D_mode
Plus powering telit itself... Isn't it going to considerably decrease battery life?

speculatrix 2010-03-04 08:46

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this is a really cool project; at one point i looked into buying an n810w to replace the wimax module with a-3g one as I though it'd have enough room and that there'd be some spare I/Os, so being able to do this with the n800 is very impressive!!

gazza_d 2010-03-04 13:08

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This is really great work, and it would be really cool to see this make it as a kit similar to the full size sim kit, and too see how much it would cost.

If possible the best interface would be to have a plugin to the existing comms/voip application on the device.

gazza_d 2010-03-04 13:20

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I have also wondered (but do not have the knowledge to poke around) whether some software exists to connect and use the built in Voip app on the N8x0s as a handsfree/dialler console connecting to a phone over bluetooth. I have used VOIP-VOIP over bluetooth and 3G, and it is reliable and robust.

We almost need something like an asterix server on the phone for the N8x0s VOIP client to connect to and route the calls out as a regular call, and when receiving calls to forward the calls onto the voip client on the tablet.
Heaven only knows if anything exists though.

Mitrandir 2010-03-23 06:26

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blue_led, any progress? :)
I'm still checking this thread for updates every day and looking forward for your success, because i'm dreaming about doing the same with my tablet

speculatrix 2010-03-23 12:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gazza_d (Post 555436)
We almost need something like an asterix server on the phone for the N8x0s VOIP client to connect to and route the calls out as a regular call, and when receiving calls to forward the calls onto the voip client on the tablet. Heaven only knows if anything exists though.

google voice/grandcentral?

blue_led 2010-03-23 16:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitrandir (Post 578220)
blue_led, any progress? :)
I'm still checking this thread for updates every day and looking forward for your success, because i'm dreaming about doing the same with my tablet

Actual stage is earpiece integration. I search for a small earpiece and I find one on nokia 2630 which also donated the antenna and mike. Placing this earpiece under front cover is a really hard problem because the place is very crowded and i must measure twice before cut so next update will be made after completing this job. Don't search thread daily.( this weekend I will go with my enduro bike on hills and next week I will go on easter vacation so i have limited time for this job)

For antenna I find a solution and will be placed inside speakers assembly. I have a small problem - finding thin coaxial cable ( 1mm ) for connecting the antenna.

i saw on schematics, uart3 have 2.8 V transceiver ( adapter ) so telit module can be wired directly on diagnostics pad

gazza_d 2010-03-23 20:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by speculatrix (Post 578607)
google voice/grandcentral?

Sorry, but you missed the point Speculatrix. What would be needed would be a service on the phone which the Tablets VOIP client connected to, but then the phone service routes the call as a normal phone call. Like a bluetooth hands free service, but using the built in functionality.

And yes, I know a couple of bluetooth handsfree clients have been to the point of "almost works", and that we are not going to get anything now.

Anyways googlevoice etc don't work on this side of the water! (does it?)

BTW Blue_led - sorry for hijacking the thread for a moment, but heck, what you are doing impresses the hell out of me! Not a weekend project for the casual though I guess.

cedar 2010-03-24 16:37

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thanks for the update blue_led!
great work! can't wait to see it completed.

blue_led 2010-04-16 19:40

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little step forward: L&G I proudly present .... hot from CNC machine .. front bezel drilled for earpiece

~phoenix~ 2010-04-16 20:51

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omg..... thats awesome....

lcuk 2010-04-16 21:02

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:) this is a skilful and dedicated endeavour.
mad props blue_led your work is intricate and awesome.


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