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I dont want to discuss the pros and cons, for me its massively important and for me fMMS (as it stands) with its current lack of integration makes it unusable.Please can someone confirm/deny that Nokia wont officially support MMS. (a standard function for all mobile 3g/GSM devices).

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its not on the spec list on HERE so I guess thats a no-go

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FYI, I think Nokia stated that the N900 will not support MMS when the promotion started. I don't think you've read the fine print that there is no MMS mention in the specification.

http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/specifications/

Before you buy the device you should have a read of the specification. MMS won't be officially support by Nokia, similar to FM radio, the components are there but it is for the developers to make use of it. This is the reason why Nokia stated that it is an OPENSOURCE linux device.

There is no need to posting questions again and again.. The answer is NO. If Nokia stated that the N900 support MMS on their specification site then the Nokia will be supporting it somehow. But they did not stated that the N900 supporting officially on paper right now..

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Why is MMS so important to you an others? I just dont see the need for it given the integration of push email and other push like services such as sky and google talk. MMS also usually costs significantly more per use than a regular text.

Just wondering....

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I bet you'll find your answer on this page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexting

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I read the specification - the implication was however that it WOULD support MMS, and infact (to a lesser extent) that it would support portrait mode (as implied by Nokia representatives).

err I havent posted this question again and again, and looking in the search section I couldnt see a definitive answer.

To instantly send a photo to a friend on a smartphone - ie the vast majority of people. Email is not the same.

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a quick snap of a pic n then txt it to the person u want to have see, they can then see quite quickly and effortlessly.... it's important because it's a common thing. So far, it is the thing I dislike most about the n900. Not a dealbreaker, obviously, but my buddies can't send me pics of ta-ta's, and I hate it. fMMS is ok, but a chore to use each time a nudie comes in.

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Chrisp7:

I am just wondering why you haven't posted to the fMMS thread telling the developer what you want. Is there something about MMS support that can't be provided by an individual but can only be provided by an incorporated entity?

By the way, I have seen it posted by Nokia employees saying officially that Nokia will never provide MMS support for the N900. So that seems final.

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Portrait mode may not be officially support by Nokia, it may or may not one day support by the community here. People already brainstorming on how to proceed on this matter here.

Same goes as MMS is being support be the community right now. fMMS is the application you may need to install to make your device MMS-able. In my point of view MMS is not important in my everyday life. I barely touched it at all on my other MMS capable devices.

The only time I gave it a played is when it first came out, otherwise it's a technology that outdated and inefficient and could also lead to bullying in schooling as well.

I don't find MMS a must have functionality toward N900. That may be just me though.

Simple solution:

If you want to MMS a friend then buy a cheap phone for that purpose :) otherwise email them.

FYI, Nokia N900 is not a SMART PHONE; It is a Mobile Computing Device + Phone capability. Which for short "Internet tablet phone"

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Yes. proper integration to conversation app. Seamless integration to mobile networks (impossible). To receive MMS's I have to connect via a non standard internet connection - making fMMS unworkable for me and many others.

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I have been involved in brainstorming, I have both thought of ideas, solutions an contributed to debates. After 4 months... only 4/5 applications have ever been created as a result of brainstorm (have a look on the brainstorm status!!), Ive come to the logical conclusion that Brainstorm is a talking shop - and nothing else. Its not working and applications are not being created as a result of it. This for me is killing the N900, its very sad indeed.

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shouldn't peoples reactions to the lack of mms be enough of a reason.regardless of the fact its old technology lots of people use it. just because there are better options doesnt mean the old method should be thrown out the window

its the same question as why use a normal land line or mobile which costs considerably more than VOIP. VOIP is free (with data package or wifi) your n900 has it but i bet most people here still use the normal phone.

what your saying is the same thing apple tried to say when the first iphone came out. who needs mms you have email. due to pretty much the entire world laughing at them they soon caved in. do you think your argument is going to change things lol

either way i use mms lots, or did but im gonna start playing about with fmms now i know nokia are not going to official support it. the popularity of the app alone should show how much people want mms

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I think one day Nokia might consider people whining about the MMS and decides to add it in the official. But it is one day :D So keep up your hope guys.. Who ever wanting MMS, just keep it up.

Let us pray to the lord Nokia!! Oh dear king of all king, please bring us the MMS that we are waiting for on the N900, I know that it will eventually appear before us. With our true spirit and soul, we may pray in Nokia name, Amen!

AKA: Sacarsm lol

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Because not all of my friends have smart phones with email access. Picture messages are much easier to receive and view then pulling up your phone's email client.

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here is my copy and paste LOL

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Considering the power of the platform I see no other reason besides laziness in creating an integrated MMS solution. I mean how hard can it be for Nokia?

The N900 may be an internet tablet but the fact remains that it's also a phone. Customers have come to expect certain standards for the phones they buy and the whole point of this is to get the best of Both worlds.

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Anybody else noticed the price of the N900 keeps on falling and falling? Maybe mine is next to be sold at a discounted rate.

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points understood, especially about friends not having smartphones and about people wanting it in general.

But i wouldnt liken it to voip vs mobile or landline. it doesnt require using completely different hardware/infrastructure.

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you are correct in saying its a phone because its sold mainly with phone contracts. i do feel nokia need to understand that people are buying this product and networks are selling it because its a phone. I know i would not have got it if it wasnt a "phone".

I think nokia should awknowledge this!

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"No MMS in Maemo 5 from Nokia" was added to the wiki page.

http://wiki.maemo.org/What_can_we_realistically_expect

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Dude! I'd say you're doing better than most of us if 80% of your brainstorms are implemented!

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1) if it was massively important then why in heaven's name did you buy this device

2) "a standard function" isn't true. A common function, and often one left to the second major revision of a new operating system, often well over a year later (iPhone, Android) - actually the Palm Pre was the first OS in recent times to release with MMS support. Well done, palm.

3) it's not gonna happen for maemo 5.

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BUT .... will it happen for MEEGO.....? :P

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In the early videos where nokia reps showed the N900 they said that MMS would come in a update..

fMMS works but I really want it implemented in the conversations app.
MMS might not be that popular in some countries but in Sweden it is. I know it is outdated but my mother doesent have a computer and is not allowed private email at work. So an MMS with pics of her grandchildren is really something for her as she lives far away.

really strange that Nokia wont implement this, but if they want to reach the masses with the next device I think MMS is a must..

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Have you checked the fmms thread?

Frals has received help from Nokia... - and has a lot to do... but there's no reason why he can't make it simpler to use :D

fmms isn't a must, it's an option...... I would have liked it, but happy to wait for frals :D

If people are that annoyed that it doesn't have it... you didn't do your research, and you didn't get the right device for you...

:D Simples......

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I don't believe this, Nokia won't support MMS? I don't think so!

Sure Nokia has higher priorities BUT it WILL creep into the Nokia N900 at some point in the future.

There is no way on this earth Nokia will not support MMS (and Video Calling).

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Im not talking about mine - Im talking about the ENTIRE brainstorm forum. 4/5 apps created as a result of ALL of that creative input. Death spiral.

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erm, they have said they will not support it? and that They will support Frals, heck they even flew him to see them :D

Isn't the fact they have said that, a giveaway that they will not do it themselves?

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They have said that they are not going to support it officially, fMMS does that, why people just don´t understand that.

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I knew the N900 wouldnt have MMS and was very happy to wait it out as the implication from Nokia was that it was a work in progress and that MMS would be added later, portait mode etc. It turns out that MMS now WONT be added and the brainstorm community ISNT creating apps. The N900 isnt in a good state imo. If the next firmware update isnt a massive step forward (which it wont be) Im selling, it so sad, the N900 has/d MASSIVE potential and Nokia seem to have dropped the ball for consumers...again.

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MMS requires a shed load of related technologies underneath to work as I am sure the developer of the fMMS package will be more than happy to tell you.

Nokia is a huge organisation but the Maemo team are a tiny part of that. The device has a number of issues that need to be resolved. As MMS was never stated as a supported feature I would suspect that fixing issuses with stated features makes more sense first.

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Chrisp7 :

I understand you completely. I feel the same way.
I am missing many things which were standard in my N95.
I can also do some stuff that I could not do in my N95.

For those claiming Chrisp and I didn't do enough research before buying the phone, There were posts and videos about MMS and Portrait mode being developed and that they will be added later.

About other peeps suggesting the usage of fMMS,
fMMS is not seamless, it's good, but not as we would want it to be.
I'd like the ability to spontaneously send PICs and SOUNDs to a lot of friends without the need to connect to an access point, and send. And to receive without having to do anything!

MMS is good, cause right now there is no alternative which is adopted commonly enough, to start excluding MMS.

You have DVD, Blueray, FlashMemoryCards - And you still use Compact Discs don't you?

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It's wrong. Nokia supports frals in making fMMS good for Maemo 5 :-)

I like MMS, I want MMS - and I think that fMMS might well achieve a "good enough" functionality soon. Conversations integration is not that important, it will be enough if the connection switching happens automatically. And this seems to be on the roadmap.
(did you know that you can already send photos with fMMS directly from the photo app using the Share function?)

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Thats what I was saying.. Nokia reps said it would get implemented. So I knew I had to wait for it but now it seems it is not coming.. belive me I knew what i was getting.

Hopefully frals (with help from Nokia) can get it fully implemented..

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Hmmm sorry still don't agree with you....

Fmms is going well... it's improved ten fold in a month, and there is no reason why it can't be integrated. - Frals has discussed this :D

The brainstorm community is an interesting one... I agree not everything is being done, but as the device and OS is still new... The developers most likely are working on their first apps? - or apps they specifically want.

So in my case for example i created a brainstorm for a healthcheck idea - and my first app - is a healthcheck app :D - nothing saying i wont delve into brainstorm later and pick other ideas i like :D

I feel that you are going to read into the state of things as you wish :D - your perogative - i'm very excited about the future of the N900 :D

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If fMMS will be able to change connection, send the photo, and reconnect to the other connection + receive MMS without any action needed, i'll be completely satisfied, I don't need integration with conversation window, more over, I don't use MMS that much, and so adding to conversation window will just be a waste (:

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I agree - getting the connection issues sorted is probably the final bug for most :D - as a proof of concept i think its pretty amazing :D

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Maybe they have said they won't support MMS in maemo 5 - thats fine BUT in the development timeline/map of Maemo 6/Meego it will be implemented.

Full MMS support WILL come to the N900 via Maemo 6/MeeGo. It just doesn't compute for Nokia NOT to do it!

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Not that i'm disagreeing, but do you have a link with proof on that one :D

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I don't have any proof, but I simply cannot comprehend it. It just doesn't make sense! A top of the range N series phone without MMS support? Without Video calling?

No, I don't see it staying this way for long.