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Dave999 2012-11-13 19:20

HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/13/3...n-photos-video

Looks nice. Too bad it don't have a Stylus or Sailfish ;). could be nice with some competition for the notes. Do we need 1080 phones :D I think we doooo...

US only... :rolleyes: :o :( :mad:

HtheB 2012-11-13 20:24

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1293904)
http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/13/3...n-photos-video

Looks nice. Too bad it don't have a Stylus or Sailfish ;). could be nice with some competition for the notes. Do we need 1080 phones :D I think we doooo...

US only... :rolleyes: :o :( :mad:

You're sooooo WRONG!

THIS is the first phone with 1080p

Dave999 2012-11-13 20:36

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1293931)
You're sooooo WRONG!

THIS is the first phone with 1080p

Did you even read your own quote? I'm soooo right :D But who cares ;) [ nice with 1080 phones anyway.

"
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Taking into account that a reliable source of ours got to see HTC's 5-inch 6435LVW phablet recently, this would make the Find 5 unofficially the second device to receive the same full HD panel.
...
"

But this is intressting development and raising the bar. Would you buy a phone of today with less resolution than 720p resolution?

HtheB 2012-11-13 22:05

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1293939)
Did you even read your own quote? I'm soooo right :D But who cares ;) [ nice with 1080 phones anyway.

"
...
Taking into account that a reliable source of ours got to see HTC's 5-inch 6435LVW phablet recently, this would make the Find 5 unofficially the second device to receive the same full HD panel.
...
"

But this is intressting development and raising the bar. Would you buy a phone of today with less resolution than 720p resolution?

I was referring to your thread title... it says "first 1080p phone", which isn't correct ;)

and btw, oppo find 5 is already out, the HTC is still isn't :)

Dave999 2012-11-13 22:13

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
Ok, it's a draw :D

I want one of these displays side by side with my current phones to see the difference. Anyone own an oppo yet?

kinggo 2012-11-13 22:47

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
BS. Another meaningless number that is supposed to impress Joe Sixpack and his grandmother.
1080p on 5" is overkill. Especially when 90% of 15" laptops still has 720p. It should be the other way arround.

MINKIN2 2012-11-13 23:08

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kinggo (Post 1293972)
BS. Another meaningless number that is supposed to impress Joe Sixpack and his grandmother.
1080p on 5" is overkill. Especially when 90% of 15" laptops still has 720p. It should be the other way arround.

Not really a bs number this time, 1080p is an industry standard (as I'm sure you are aware) and not just a made up resolution from another company who wish to one-up Apples retina bo**ocks.

If they can get decent battery life out of that phone then it would sure make things easier for the video junkies out there. No more having to faff with video converters to adjust the resolution or have the CPU/GPU working overtime to scale down the image to fit the screen. :)

Kangal 2012-11-13 23:53

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
To be honest I prefer a 1376 x 720 resolution on a 5.2in screen. The extra 96 pixels are for on-screen buttons to give a true 16:9 aspect.

It gives a "pathetic" 299ppi.

The only catch is, it needs to have RGB layout, reflective screen (CBD or Matte or otherwise), a high brightness and industry-standard viewing angled and accuracy.

Kangal 2012-11-13 23:53

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
To be honest I prefer a 1376 x 720 resolution on a 5.2in screen. The extra 96 pixels are for on-screen buttons to give a true 16:9 aspect.

It gives a "pathetic" 299ppi.

The only catch is, it needs to have RGB layout, reflective screen (CBD or Matte or otherwise), a high brightness and industry-standard viewing angled and accuracy.

Dave999 2012-11-14 06:02

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
Cant see any bad things with a 1080p screen. The only issue I can think of is that it's first generation which could have some basic issues.

Other than that I think all highend phones should have this kind of better resolution screens.

ahmadamaj 2012-11-14 06:21

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
why 1080p is bad?

We already know how this SOC will perform at 1080p. If you check this review of the Nexus 4 (http://www.anandtech.com/show/6440/g...xus-4-review/3), and look at the GLbenchmark 1080p offscreen tests, you can see that the expected results are lower than the average. Now, add to that the clutter of the HTC sense skin and things get worst.
Moreover the battery is just too small to support so much pixels and such a heavy CPU-GPU combination.

thedead1440 2012-11-14 07:58

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
HTC is trying to replicate Nokia of yore by adding one killer feature in return for some sub-standard compromises.

That huge panel would need much juice but they put a non-replaceable 2,020mah battery with limited 16GB storage without microSD...

Its a perfect example of hitting one's own foot...

kinggo 2012-11-14 09:04

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MINKIN2 (Post 1293981)
Not really a bs number this time, 1080p is an industry standard (as I'm sure you are aware) and not just a made up resolution from another company who wish to one-up Apples retina bo**ocks.

If they can get decent battery life out of that phone then it would sure make things easier for the video junkies out there. No more having to faff with video converters to adjust the resolution or have the CPU/GPU working overtime to scale down the image to fit the screen. :)

I know that it is a standard. But it should be a standard on 15" screens. And 720p is also a standard. But 1080p on 5" is ridiculous. For UI, photos, media player.............. basically anythig but browsing doesn' mater if it is 720p or 1080p. No one will se the difference. But browsing on that means constant zooming. And the only advantage for me in those 5" screens was the ease of browsing without zooming.
I would much rather take the best possible 720p display then some inferior 1080p.

Dave999 2012-11-14 11:03

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
I don't think the screen is the issue here. If you think the battery life is far worse than what we have today its rather a battery issue. But personally, I think what is the base of the issue is what attract users today. Slim... Ness. That the source.

Personally. Your minds need to get used to the thought of 1080p with a battery of 2xxx. No one would complain about that screen battery composition in 6 month it reaching a standard.

Wait for some real tests please. And get the 1080p screens in to your head.

Hurrian 2012-11-14 11:10

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
Finally, a super high resolution screen that isn't Pentile.
It'll be one hell of a visual treat to look at it.

Oh wait, the maximum storage they offer on it is 16GB with no SD card slot. Not even a 64GB option!

That's crazy, not everyone has teh clouds to stream their media.
Also, I can blow through 8GB easily on my Android devices with games and other apps alone. You can't stream those.
What is it with manufacturers and not offering a $5-on-the-BOM SD card slot?

juiceme 2012-11-14 15:22

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1294132)
Finally, a super high resolution screen that isn't Pentile.
It'll be one hell of a visual treat to look at it.

It's funny how this depends on eyes for different people.

I have a co-worker who cannot look into pentile dispalys, he says that the colour fringing makes his eyes hurt.

Myself, I honestly cannot make difference with pentile ot lcd display, in my eye N9 looks nice, it's bright and easy to read.

I do not know if the difference is physiological or psychovisual, but it is real. People are different...

Dave999 2012-11-14 17:02

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It's easy to see when looking att images/icons/details . Let's take a galaxy s3/note and put it together another phone let's say iphone 4s. It's a other the same resolution, but the android is much more foggy in details with their pentiles.

Dave999 2012-11-15 20:34

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
Finally some indication of world wide version. HTC DELUXE

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/11...he-htc-deluxe/

qwazix 2012-11-15 20:44

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
i want amoled, and they can't even do 720p amoled in 5" yet without it being pentile. And while I prefer an 720p pentile than a WVGA stripe, a 720p stripe would be awesome.

Assuming fixed screen size my preference

WVGA AMOLED RGB < 720p IPS LCD < 720p Pentile AMOLED < 1080p IPS LCD < 720p RGB AMOLED < 1080p RGB AMOLED

Red don't exist yet

Dave999 2012-11-15 20:56

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
http://www.androidauthority.com/sams...hd-lcd-130541/

Let's see what samsung comes up with.

Siren 2012-11-15 22:13

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kinggo (Post 1293972)
BS. Another meaningless number that is supposed to impress Joe Sixpack and his grandmother.
1080p on 5" is overkill. Especially when 90% of 15" laptops still has 720p. It should be the other way arround.

Exactly. Everyone familliar with basics of optic, will know, that even N900's screen, put as close to eyes as possible to keep focus and borders into angle of view, result in panoramic picture with indistinguishable pixels.

To visualize it, lets imagine room with walls, ceilling, and floor absorbing 100% light, and 2 screens - one being 40'' 1080p, far away from viewer, and another one being N900 screen, close to eyes - both with same aspect ratio, colors, quality, etc. Viewer, without any other objets, helping to measure distance (floor, walls), and without moving head (to measure by angles) wouldn't be able to tell, which screen is close and small, or which one is big and far away.

Putting more pixels on square inch is just useless. Sure, at least 1024 width helps during browsing, but it's rather due to stupid designs of nowadays websites...

Kangal 2012-11-15 23:55

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1294708)
i want amoled, and they can't even do 720p amoled in 5" yet without it being pentile. And while I prefer an 720p pentile than a WVGA stripe, a 720p stripe would be awesome.

Assuming fixed screen size my preference

WVGA AMOLED RGB < 720p IPS LCD < 720p Pentile AMOLED < 1080p IPS LCD < 720p RGB AMOLED < 1080p RGB AMOLED

Red don't exist yet

The NOTE 2's screen is RGB.
While the layout/orientation is different the sub-pixel ratios are the same. Its definitely NOT pentile, and almost an RGB. Just call it RGB.

1080 SAMOLED RGB (NOTE 4) > 720 SAMOLED RGB (NOTE 2) > 1080 SAMOLED PENTILE (NOTE 3 ?) > 720 SAMOLED PENTILE (NOTE 1) > qHD SAMOLED RGB (unmanufactored) > WVGA SAMOLED RGB (SGS2) > qHD SAMOLED PENTILE (Droid RAZR) > WVGA SAMOLED PENTILE (SGS) > WVGA AMOLED PENTILE (Nexus One)

ed00 2012-11-16 04:18

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
i would prefer SH-06D NERV


http://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/server34....1280.1280.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=...ture=endscreen

Hurrian 2012-11-16 05:05

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ed00 (Post 1294832)

This phone is quite old, however worth mentioning as Rebuild 3 comes out tomorrow.

/me ducks away from the internet until I buy the BD and watch it

ahmadamaj 2012-11-16 16:41

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
The verge review of the DNA

http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/16/3...oid-dna-review

HtheB 2012-11-16 16:50

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
There is a rumour that samsung will present full-hd Super Amoled HD screens in January 2013.

Dave999 2012-11-18 20:28

Re: HTC DNA first 1080p phone
 
Another review.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/16/h...id-dna-review/

Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1294993)
There is a rumour that samsung will present full-hd Super Amoled HD screens in January 2013.

At CES
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsu...y-S-IV_id36703


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