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peterleinchen 2014-04-10 19:59

[FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
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Here is the fix (I desperately wanted) for my environment.

The fix is so easy, but do not ask me how much time I spent then and now debugging, understanding/changing/learning code, trying to understand MMS protocol, ...

I am sure frals would have solved within a few minutes (less than hour).:rolleyes:

Nevertheless here we go:
get root
open /opt/fmms/mms/mms_pdu.py with leafpad/nano/vi
and add following line
Code:

                  0x19 : ('WTF', 'BooleanValue'),
Attached is the modified python script, but this sed command will do the trick also (as.root):
Code:

sed -e s/"                  0x18 : ('Transaction-Id', 'TextString'),"/"           
    0x18 : ('Transaction-Id', 'TextString'),\n                  0x19 : ('WTF', 'BooleanValue'), #peterleinchen"/ -i /opt/fmms/mms/mms_pdu.py


freemangordon 2014-04-10 21:08

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
What about gaining maintainership and uploading a fixed version in extras?

peterleinchen 2014-04-10 21:21

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1420753)
What about gaining maintainership and uploading a fixed version in extras?

Done (at least first part ;)).
But please do not expect new features :D

One question: you wrote 'extras'? Did you mean 'extras-devel', sure! Or 'extras-testing, also understood! But 'extras'?

sixwheeledbeast 2014-04-10 21:29

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1420755)
One question: you wrote 'extras'? Did you mean 'extras-devel', sure! Or 'extras-testing, also understood! But 'extras'?


I don't see why not. After all the whole point of -devel and -testing is to QA before extras.

freemangordon 2014-04-10 21:55

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1420758)
I don't see why not. After all the whole point of -devel and -testing is to QA before extras.

exactly :)

peterleinchen 2014-04-17 20:29

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Done.
Just sent it to extras-devel. (as I used the devel sources)
Please check it to be the 'same' package (used py2deb).

BUT after one week there is not a single feedback at all :(
Not that I expected hundreds/thousands of hoorays, but a bit more enthusiasm.
I really really do not use this MMS service myself or did/do receive a lot of MMS, but to have a device not capable of receiving those one/two messages a year really made me angry (hence my efforts)!

misiak 2014-04-17 21:03

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Code:

for(int i=0; i<=9999; i++) {
  printf("hooray peterleinchen!\n");
}

There you go ;) Just one question - what if mms receiving was perfectly working for me all the time (i received my last mms ~1 week ago)? Can this change break something? Should I test? What exactly is this "WTF" boolean value, what is it used for?

Edit: Well... I just looked at my mms list nad saw some small glitches... There are some messages which seem to be incorrectly decoded somehow. There is html-like code in the end. Let's say the message should end with "haha :D" and instead there's "haha :D<smil><head><layout>[...and so on...]" (smil.xml content?). Is it a known issue (maybe even connected to this fix?) or should I debug it further and try to fix it myself? ;) It's not really annoying... And seems to be very rare and random - I have only 3 or 4 messages with it (one with non-alphanumeric characters, one with letters which are present only in my country's national charset and one with only english letters and spaces), while my complete mms list has >=100 items.

peterleinchen 2014-04-17 21:15

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Okay, as I got now my 10000 hoorays I open up the Pandora box ;)

Yep, for some it was working fine, for others not!
Up to now no one (I know of) had a clue why. Even 'rumors' about IMEI databases, blocking by operator on purpose, ...
But it is all due to my operator(s) decided to send MMS according to specification 1.1 (fmms sends and receives only 1.0). So the header parsing went berserk and screwed everything.

This fix only adds one specific 1.1 header (X-MMS-Retrieve-Status), but that was sufficient for me (there are of course more and even spec.1.2).
So what I would like to get is some feedback from users who suffered non-ability-of-receiving.
[i.e. for you it does not matter atm and NO it will NOT break anything]

--
edit to misiak's edit
Yes that is the layout code of the message. And should not be in the message text itself. You are lucky that the text of message (or was it subject?) seems to be in front of smil info. Other way round message would have been unreadable possibly. And I assume that some length has not been read correct or text was not-Null terminated (which is only normal at the end) or some special characters (unicode?) screwed it up.
But as you say only a few are borked.
And no I am sure my fix has nothing to do with it.

misiak 2014-04-17 21:25

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1421753)
This fix only adds one specific 1.1 header (X-MMS-Retrieve-Status), but that was sufficient for me (there are of course more and even spec.1.2).
So what I would like to get is some feedback from users who suffered non-ability-of-receiving.
[i.e. for you it does not matter atm and NO it will NOT break anything]

Wouldn't it be proper to call it "Retrieve-Status" instead of "WTF" then (following the naming convention for other fields in the file)? ;)

Edit: and, following page 42 of http://www.openmms.org/download/OMA-WAP-MMS.pdf , add Retrieve-Text, Read-Status, Reply-Charging and Reply-Charging-Deadline too? (although I'm not sure which version of the specification this pdf describes...)

Edit2: oh, there are also: Reply-Charging-ID, Reply-Charging-Size, Previously-Sent-By and Previously-Sent-Date fields on next page, I missed them earlier...

peterleinchen 2014-04-17 21:33

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Yep, exactly.
Please see the deb coming to extras-devel! :D
(Except the others ;) I am a lazy bastard and for me it is sufficient, hence the desired feedbacks to know I need to invest more work.)

foobar 2014-04-17 21:35

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Thanks for the effort.
Unfortunately, it did not work for me before, and it does not work after applying the patch.
Instead I still receive an SMS from my operator telling me to fetch the MMS from Da Web. It did work years ago, though.

misiak 2014-04-17 21:40

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Ok, I will ;) If I have some small attention of people interested in fMMS now - do any of you also had problems with MMS contents I described in #7 post of this thread? My N900 went through really a lot of issues (well, after all, I've been actively using it for past 4.5 years, no reflashing, only one home partition failure which needed manual actions - all done on-device), so there is also some slight possibility that I broke some files manually and that's why the message contents seem corrupted.

peterleinchen 2014-04-17 21:42

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foobar (Post 1421758)
Thanks for the effort.
Unfortunately, it did not work for me before, and it does not work after applying the patch.
Instead I still receive an SMS from my operator telling me to fetch the MMS from Da Web. It did work years ago, though.

Thanks for the feedback.
Unfortunately if you receive a SMS from operator this means your device/SIM is blocked by your operator. Else you would get a wap push message, followed by a try of fmms to download the MMS.
Please check with your operator (often it is needed to send one MMS from that SIM to open up receiving functionality).

sLumPia 2014-04-18 01:04

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
I get this error when installing the new fMMS:
Code:

Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y
(Reading database ... 39049 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace fmms 1.3.4 (using .../archives/fmms_1.3.5-0_all.deb) ...
dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute new pre-installation script: Exec format error
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/fmms_1.3.5-0_all.deb (--unpack):
 subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/fmms_1.3.5-0_all.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


J4ZZ 2014-04-18 02:17

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sLumPia (Post 1421767)
I get this error when installing the new fMMS:
Code:

/var/cache/apt/archives/fmms_1.3.5-0_all.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


Me too :(

I removed 1.3.4 but that didn't help, the error remains.
So I had to reinstall version 1.3.4 'apt-get install fmms=1.3.4' and manually edit the .py :)

murik 2014-04-18 06:09

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
same problem...

peterleinchen 2014-04-18 06:31

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sLumPia (Post 1421767)
I get this error when installing the new fMMS:

Quote:

Originally Posted by J4ZZ (Post 1421771)
Me too :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by murik (Post 1421777)
same problem...

Sorry.
I had an empty pre-install script (instead of removing it :eek:). I fell asleep and could not test the build myself. A fixed version is on the way...
Please check it out once more!

misiak 2014-04-18 09:06

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1421753)
edit to misiak's edit
Yes that is the layout code of the message. And should not be in the message text itself. You are lucky that the text of message (or was it subject?) seems to be in front of smil info. Other way round message would have been unreadable possibly. And I assume that some length has not been read correct or text was not-Null terminated (which is only normal at the end) or some special characters (unicode?) screwed it up.
But as you say only a few are borked.
And no I am sure my fix has nothing to do with it.

Noticed your edited reply few minutes ago. I know I'm lucky to see it at all. The content is displayed correctly, just the smil info is appended at the end (including the <img> tag with picture filename). I don't think it's special characters issue as one of messages contains only valid ascii characters (I even checked using hexedit to confirm that), picture filename says "image078.jpg" so no invalid characters in it either. I will investigate further and I find anything, will let you know (or just post patches).

peterleinchen 2014-04-18 13:32

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
@misiak
You may send me one of those messages -zip full folder content from .fmms/mms/NOK*)- then I might decode it here (with my full-of-print-commands-debug-version and possibly see if something went wrong.
Just an offer and it is not a message from your GF ;)
- preferably one without an image if there is one -

misiak 2014-04-18 14:38

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
I will zip one and sent you ;) Not from my gf, don't worry ;) An image of a scrabble board with simple comment (it has one letter - "ę" which is not present in english charset, but it should decode ok anyway). I noticed one thing. All these messages were sent from people who own Nokia Lumia phones :) And these are the only messages from these people in my mailbox :) So this may be an issue with format of MMS messages sent by Lumias.

rotoflex 2014-05-16 14:47

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
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I have had issues with fMMS working intermittently. Although it has worked before, today I cannot download an MMS.

Checking first the connection:

If I disconnect all Internet connections, all the connectivity icons disappear from the dashboard, as expected.

Then, under Internet Connections I select MMS, & the packet data connection active icon (white circle with two arrows) appears.

Then, the availability status indicator appears below it, but it flashes between the green dot & a white dot with an X in the center.

Is that correct? Or should the availability status indicator stabilize to the solid green dot?

peterleinchen 2014-05-16 15:23

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
A bit unrelated (to the original topic/relevance of this thread), but nevertheless:
if you select the connection (for MMS connectivity) manually, then this behavior is to be expected.
As this connection is not a normal internet connection but handling only MMS connectivity via a proxy. (some providers nevertheless provide a bit of internet connectivity with some settings modification but this is not topic and not to be discussed here).
And the availability indicator does not have anything to do with fMMS but just shows IM/rtcom accounts availability, related to internet connectivity.

So why do you not set "havoc mode" in fMMS which enables configured fMMS APN for short time and routes all traffic via this APN? This is safe (for me and frals) and the most convenient.

rotoflex 2014-05-16 17:13

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1425634)
A bit unrelated (to the original topic/relevance of this thread),

You are correct; I apologize. I had three fMMS threads open & intended to post in one of the main ones, but mistakenly posted in this one.

I tried the Havoc setting, but still got the "Operation Failed" message after a wait.

I tried to check the connection with some of the information at
http://wiki.maemo.org/MMS

Quote:

roubleshooting fMMS
[edit] How to verify settings are correct

Select 'Polite' mode in fMMS configuration
Press the taskbar (where signal strength, battery etc is shown), connect to the internet connection called "MMS"
If this fails, your settings are wrong.
If this suceeds, proceed
Open the browser and try browsing to the same location that is specified in the "MMSC" field in fMMS connection settings
When I connect to MMS (not using fMMS), open the browser, and connect to the MMSC address (for me, USA T-Mobile it's http://216.155.174.84/servlets/mms), the browser displays only the message
"parameter location was not included in the GET request"

I assume that this means I have established the data connection with the T-Mobile MMS server, but something else is wrong? Or does it display that message in the browser even if fMMS is functioning correctly?

peterleinchen 2014-05-16 19:58

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Iirc the latest version of fMMS and/or fAPN will not show the MMY connection APN anymore in the connection configuration/selection dialo

So to get to the ground:
which version of fmms/fapn ard you using?
are you sure APM settings in fMMS are the same? Especially the proxy setting?
did this happen out of the blue? Or could you receive earlier? When latest?
and so on. Provide as much info you can.

About your question with settings:
It should not throw any errors, as this address is just the base and not a real message address.
I just checked (once more) for vodafone de and here I just get an empty page in browser (as expected). So no idea about t-mob usa, sorry. Someone else from over the sea may check/confirm please?

rotoflex 2014-05-17 08:51

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1425676)
So to get to the ground:
which version of fmms/fapn ard you using?

fMMS v. 1.3.5-1
I do not see anything called fapn in the application manager.

Quote:

are you sure APM settings in fMMS are the same?
Especially the proxy setting?
did this happen out of the blue? Or could you receive earlier? When latest?
The last MMS I previously received was on 2014-03-22.
I changed nothing since that time, except trying Polite/Rude/Havoc.

Has there been an update to fMMS since that time? I cannot remember the dates of when updates were installed.

How can fMMS be run from the command line to observe error messages? fMMS without a path generates a "not found" message.

peterleinchen 2014-05-17 19:00

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Indeed, there was an update to 1.3.5-1 (made by me ;)) and pushed from devel to testing a few days ago.
So you have at least testing repo enabled, maybe also devel?

Nevertheless this update should not (must not) break anything!
As it just enables fmms to detect a new header from MMS definition 1.1.
One possibility (but very very unlikely) would be that your provider also uses v1.1 but has added also other headers and those error was resolved by another error in fmms.

Another possibility is that your provider just switched to send out MMS in revision 1.1 with another header added.
This would be exactly the case I was looking for (to have the need to work on fmms more).
Could you call your hotline to ask/verify which verion of MMS definition is used to send MMS (either 1.0 or 1.1)? I know I know tbose technical questions are hard to discuss with phone support guys/girls! ;)

Are you familiar with the console?
fmms is python and need to be started like
python /opt/fmms/fmms_gui.py
Then you will see some more output in console window.
But fmms has already a logging facility: please see the file /tmp/fmms.log (this one will be deleted on boot and recreated with next start of fmms).

Please have a look at those and/or post them here (via txt attachment) or better on pastebin or similar.

Best would be if you could do following:
check (/home/user/).fmms/mms/ and have a look at the latest received mms/folder with newest date
send yourself a MMS, close fmms!!!, go again to .fmms/mms/LatestFolder, zip it and post it (it will contain one file named message). Now open again fmms and click on the received message, compare now content of ,essage against the archived/zipped one.
Hopefully we can find what's going on...


--
another possibility for you to check if my update broke your fmms (unlikely) is to reinstall fmms in version 1.3.3
apt-get install --reinstall fmms=1.3.3
(to go 'back' to latest version: apt-get install --reinstall fmms)

rotoflex 2014-05-18 09:05

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
I had one of your ideas later, & successfully sent an MMS to myself, received it & opened it. So that seems OK, & the issue seems to be just the one MMS sent on 5/16/2014.

With your information, I looked at /home/user/fmms/mms, & I see two folders: one from the successful MMS iof 3/22/2014, & one from the new MMS of 5/16/2014 which seemed to not work. I entered the folder for the MMS of 5/16/2014 which seemed not to work, & found the photo & message.

What is strange is that in the fMMS GUI, it shows the successful 3/22/2014 message as expected: a yellow envelope with the sender's name & no red dot (it's already been downloaded), when it is selected, the picture & message is displayed.

However the 5/16/2014 message is displayed as a yellow envelope with the sender's name & a red dot, & when it is selected, it connects to MMS, displays the message "Downloading MMS" for about 2.5 minutes, then displays the message "Operation failed". It apparently does not know that it already has the downloaded data, & is reconnecting to the MMS server. I do not know if a copy is still on the MMS server, of course, & maybe that is what's tying it up so long.

peterleinchen 2014-05-18 11:55

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rotoflex (Post 1425783)
I had one of your ideas later, & successfully sent an MMS to myself, received it & opened it. So that seems OK, & the issue seems to be just the one MMS sent on 5/16/2014.

Good, that means at least it is not my change that broke anything.


Quote:

Originally Posted by rotoflex (Post 1425783)
With your information, I looked at /home/user/fmms/mms, & I see two folders: one from the successful MMS iof 3/22/2014, & one from the new MMS of 5/16/2014 which seemed to not work. I entered the folder for the MMS of 5/16/2014 which seemed not to work, & found the photo & message.

What is strange is that in the fMMS GUI, it shows the successful 3/22/2014 message as expected: a yellow envelope with the sender's name & no red dot (it's already been downloaded), when it is selected, the picture & message is displayed.

Hmm, that is strange. Either it should have failed and only the 'message' file itself there. But having the picture and not the text is strange! :confused:

Could you do a cat message in that folder and check the content?
If it looks like
Quote:

~ $ cat .fmms/mms/NOK5xxxxxxxxxxx/message
îäìæàSA½¥ù+4911123456789/TYPE=PLMN ÖΓäú* âüΩ
then it is probably not parsed correctly.
In that case fmms has succesfully downloaded the message, due to a "bug" (only knowing about protocol 1.0) it stopped iterating the header fields (and stopped code execution) while parsing, and did not enter all info in the mms.db. And then on opening in GUI it tries to download again, but once downloaded successfully it is already removed from server.
(this is what I expect, no chance to check anymore)

If the message contains more info and some keywords like SMIL, body,head; then you could zip that and send it to me.

--
If you ever come again on such MMS message in the GUI with a red star on upper right corner, then do NOT click it, but go to .fmms/mms/LatestDateyFolder and make a copy of that message first. As it will get overwritten with "feedback from server already downloaded" and we would loose again all possibilities. So please remember this and inform me again, then.

peterleinchen 2014-05-27 20:13

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
No bug reports or proven bad behaviour for my patch, I have propagated version 1.3.5-1 to extras-testing.
Please vote here if you have tested and like it to go to extras (or not. I do not mind as my use case is working ;))

sixwheeledbeast 2014-06-08 17:36

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Peter thanks for updating you package to fix the author in package management.
I have noticed you have removed the uuencoded icon from the control file.

misiak 2014-06-08 18:57

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Hmmm... peterleinchen, why did you downvote?

peterleinchen 2014-06-08 19:11

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by misiak (Post 1428741)
Hmmm... peterleinchen, why did you downvote?

Just because of this:
Quote:

Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1428732)
Peter thanks for updating you package to fix the author in package management.

No more :)
Just wanted to make sure that this package does not get further.
Will promote 1.3.5-3 as soon as quarantine ends. And thumb up again. :D

@six
Thanks for spotting this:
Quote:

Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1428732)
I have noticed you have removed the uuencoded icon from the control file.

Not anymore ;)
Had the wrong (hand written) path in. Sorry.
New package is already on its way.

So 1.3.5 is always the same package, just minor corrections/adaptions to debian/maemo packaging.

peterleinchen 2014-06-16 07:29

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Version 1.3.5-3 is now back in testing.
Please vote (again) of you like.

chill 2014-06-22 21:09

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
I have pretty much the same situation as rotoflex. I too am on T-mobile USA. The message fails with "operation failed", but when I look in. /home/user/.fmms/mms the message and the picture are there. Meanwhile the GUI shows the yellow envelope with the red star. So as you said it looks like a parsing problem.

Also have another message where the file names are
"123_1.smil
"text_0.txt
Note the leading quotes.

peterleinchen 2014-06-22 21:30

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chill (Post 1430613)
I have pretty much the same situation as rotoflex. I too am on T-mobile USA. The message fails with "operation failed", but when I look in. /home/user/.fmms/mms the message and the picture are there. Meanwhile the GUI shows the yellow envelope with the red star. So as you said it looks like a parsing problem.

Could you please elaborate a bit more?
Was it an actually received mms? Or older ones?

Normally showing this red icon means it was not.inserted into the DB,.so fMMS 'thinks' it needs to download again. Hereby deleting the original message (so no chance to check deeper).
What might have have appened is most probably a parsing problem and clash of fMMs daemon (not entering it into db).

If you could ask the sender to send again the same message, then do not click it in fMMS viewer but zip the specific folder and send to me, I could try to find out ...

pali 2014-06-23 09:10

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
What about adding config file for osso-backup to automatically backup mms when using Backup application?

pali 2014-06-23 19:44

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
@peterleinchen: I think that this config file is enough for including all mms into backup:

/etc/osso-backup/applications/fmms.conf

Code:

<backup-configuration>
  <locations>
    <location type="dir" category="comm_and_cal" auto="true">/home/user/.fmms</location>
  </locations>
</backup-configuration>


peterleinchen 2014-06-23 20:20

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pali (Post 1430684)
What about adding config file for osso-backup to automatically backup mms when using Backup application?

Yep sure. Why not?
To be honest I did not even know about that simple config. ;)
(will think about adding that for simswitcher :) but which category?)


Quote:

Originally Posted by pali (Post 1430762)
@peterleinchen: I think that this config file is enough for including all mms into backup:

Another yep!
Just add it to package, right?

--
Added (at least to my sources). Do you (I mean all) want this as a new release?
@pali: do you know if type=file accepts wildcards "*"? Guess not, but ... -- seems it does, thanks for below link

pali 2014-06-23 20:35

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
see: http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/...k-up_locations

peterleinchen 2014-06-24 20:34

Re: [FIX] fMMS - MMS on the N900, cannot receive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pali (Post 1430684)
What about adding config file for osso-backup to automatically backup mms when using Backup application?

Done.
New version 1.3.6-0 is on its way to extras-devel.
Thanks to pali for suggesting this!

So please test and give feedback.


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