Post editing by moderators with no notification
I just found out that one of the moderators (jalyst) simply modified (at least 2nd time of those i know of) my post. If first tiem we had an argue over private chat before and even if if i did not really agree with him i somehow can understand the reason there.
But last post he edited with no notifications, and though the text inside quote that was changed and not my answer itself, i don't think it's acceptable. As it's starts here and you never know where it ends. Maybe intentions were good, but still it's not very democratic and reasonable that moderator who even doesn't own the site (it's not private or personal site) just simply decide to change someone's post without notification? It doesn't matter what intentions are (as point of view can differ from one person to another). First of all it's my post and this is public forum and no admin or moderator can simply change it if it's not direct insult or/and spam, not allowed words. In other cases it would be logical that moderator at least contact the person and give him a chance to do it himself or to discuss the matter(in our world the judges need to prove the guilt and not opposite). Or the most least thing is to add edit reason for edit, as there was no reason as well! P.S. Please do not answer that mods are volunteers, this is excuse and not the reason to do such things. Being a moderator(and i had exp in this) is duty and not the power and abuse of it, doesn't matter if you get paid for it or not! |
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I think it is reasonable to ask that a notice is left whenever a Mod alters a post. Authorship otherwise becomes clouded.
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I have stopped counting how many times that has happened. To me as well as to others. And yes, it is always the same moderator. I have also expressed my concerns about that a number of times (example, another one...), but nothing has happened as a result. I have even emailed the Council to ask them to comment and was told, in no unclear and, frankly, quite rude terms, to shut up and mind my own business.
Deleting posts a random moderator happens to not like or moving them to Off-Topic in bad enough but editing quoted lines is downright unacceptable. |
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I now went back to read that reply again and, admittedly, it could be read in more than one way. It's just that at the time it sounded a bit... dicouraging. |
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ZogG, after the first argument between you and jalyst I have spoken to him, so in the future he should add editorial notes if he does edit posts - if on the other hand a post is rude or reported, you better do not start a fight about a silent edit, rules actually have infraction points for you so if a moderator removes "bad" stuff without further notice and you did not get any points either, why bother? We are or at least should be grown up enough to admit to our own mistakes. If you supply links to the current situation I will have a look though.
Pichlo, iirc you have been complaining about such unnotified edit and while I understand that you want an explanation, the same rules apply to you, having a dirty mouth and getting edited because you get reported and do not get any infraction points for it should teach you a lesson. Bluntly my reply to your inquiry can be read as "shut up", yes, if you want to. I wasn't council and I find it offensive to go up the food chain without talking to me first. I took it first of all as a personal insult. I do not have hard feelings though. Never the less you are here again bloating about it. I have explained every detail there is, if you are still unhappy, so be it, that is what moderation looks like, you make a mistake, you get moderated - I will personally take care that the next time you get your explanation and your infraction points and no more silent edits - if you don't want special treatment that way let me know and we call this the year of moderation and I will take care that any moderation has its points applied to the users - just kidding, hope you get it now. For both of you, if jalyst plays up, let me know! Jalyst while you are here, you may explain yourself... |
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I'm really disappointed at the attempts to character assassinate here, I'm genuinely trying to do my job, nothing more & nothing less. I can't constantly waste huge amts of time on this sort of thing, this is the explanation I gave ZoGg, outraged again at TMO's bias against him (yes he's said that sort of thing quite a few times -not my words):
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The suggestion by some here (well, one really) that I'm behind every single poor mod decision (IYO) that's occurred, is just downright wrong, misleading, & extremely offensive. Please by all means some of you suggest a motion to have me expelled, if you think that's the fair & reasonable thing to do, it'll certainly give me quite a bit more free time. Maybe one of you feel you can do a vastly better job*, based on your idealisation on how moderation should be done, & perhaps you really can. I very much doubt that though, as I take the responsibility very seriously (as one should), & usually ponder every single decision once & then several times. Amongst that I'll occasionally "err", I'm human. This is all I'm going to say, not subscribing to this thread, I honestly can't afford to waste one more minute on this, I'm sorry. Have a good day. *assuming you realise all the extra running around it can often entail |
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Yeah I found the posts already, please refrain from editing non offensive language, "naive fantasists" isn't hard language. Correcting spelling mistakes ok, I can even live with replacing google with android, but rephrasing whole sentences is not part of your job description - that was off limits. Especially when you just correct spelling, that is oddly strange to people not having an edit note, keep it short though [spelling,language,missing link] like notes.
So please limit your edits to stuff like that, don't rephrase whole sentences for people (ignore that for obviously foreign speakers where you get the context but the phrases are just wrong - still note "rephrased" please). Less is sometimes more. So as this was about a strange edit matrix and not even about language stuff - please keep in mind that jalyst is just trying to help out. A tad overambitious but I hope we got that sorted. |
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ZogG's post was edited because he quoted the amended post, I forgot to explain in his post why it was amended, or rather I (mistakenly) assumed it'd be obvious, I didn't touch the body of his post -just the quote. As explained I can't afford to be partaking in this any more, so this is my last post or read of this thread, someone else by all means raise your hand to take-over. If Chemist or Council feels you're better suited, or that it's simply time for a mod cycle (maybe that's a good idea?), then I'm happy to stand down. Bed-Time/Good Night, *though it changed a tiny bit more -as he edited it later |
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