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sixwheeledbeast 2013-08-08 22:12

[Testing Squad] Lets get testing
 
So the repositories are now repaired thanks to our techstaff.

It's now time for the community (yes, you), to get back to using maemo.org to it's full potential.

Testers:-
There are a large quantity of packages that need testing CORRECTLY and voting on.
Please if you can, start testing and QA'ing packages, filing bug reports on bugzilla, bumping threads on TMO regarding any versions stuck in devel/testing, contacting maintainers for support etc.

Developers:-
If you have a package that has been hanging in devel or testing, why?? Get it promoted, if you feel is it stable enough for all the community to enjoy. Extras-devel is no longer the place to be pushing long term "stable" updates.
Let's get our repositories working how they should be again.

Also if any developers feel like supplying fixes or becoming a maintainer of a package, feel free to request that on the package interface.

http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing
http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing/QA_Checklist
http://wiki.maemo.org/Testing_Squad
http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing/Darp

Package testers your community needs you to QA and promote.
Any questions feel free to find me on #maemo.

sixwheeledbeast 2013-08-13 16:22

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
Well so far the response to my thread has been a bit slow.
I have been monitoring the QA list and I can't say many packages have been given the thumbs up.
While I do agree it has only been 5 days, I have fairly high expectations of our community ;)

So in order to help the process along I will be testing a package each week and featuring it here.
Hopefully with willing participants this method can consolidate on providing enough votes to promote at least a single package per week.

Testers will have the comfort of knowing I have glanced through the source of the package and tested it on my device first. This doesn't mean in anyway that the package is completely safe and therefore tested BTW.

The exposure to new packages maybe enlightening so do feel free to test other packages in the QA queue, if you have time.
http://maemo.org/packages/repository...xtras-testing/

Even if packages have been given thumbs up before from other people please test them correctly. It's worth noting a good number of packages are now broken even though they where tested fine 2 years ago.

Slowly we can weed these broken packages out, please let us know if you find any broken packages.
The best place to report at the moment is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=88353.
Post here only if you get no response from bug tickets on bugs.maemo.org or the packages bugtracker link.
Alternatively if required I can be found on #maemo.

So community - let's get testing. :)

sixwheeledbeast 2013-08-13 18:22

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
Well ... first on the featured packages, I think it's only fair to feature...

[DRUM-ROLL]

connectagram 1.0.1maemo0-1

Section: Games
Dev: Nicolai Hess

http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...1.0.1maemo0-1/

This was the first package to be promoted to extras-testing after this thread started on Thursday.

Happy Testing. :)

freemangordon 2013-08-14 17:44

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
Seems it will take some time for the (couple of) remaining developers and testers to start using the package interface etc. again. Unfortunately that makes sense, as it's been too long we have those non-functional.

AapoRantalainen 2013-08-14 18:32

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
How about packages in extras-devel, which need features from CSSU?

I think I have some SDL-games (maybe about sdl-mixer) hanging on extras-devel, because they don't work correctly without CSSU.

sixwheeledbeast 2013-08-14 21:55

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AapoRantalainen (Post 1367256)
How about packages in extras-devel, which need features from CSSU?

I think I have some SDL-games (maybe about sdl-mixer) hanging on extras-devel, because they don't work correctly without CSSU.

This is a good question there are also applications that conflict with CSSU.

I don't see this as a reason to hold these packages in devel, they need to be tested.

I would guess these packages should be packaged in some standardised way to check for CSSU installation. However, I currently have no idea of the correct way to do this.

szopin 2013-08-14 22:03

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1367318)
This is a good question there are also applications that conflict with CSSU.

I don't see this as a reason to hold these packages in devel, they need to be tested.

I would guess these packages should be packaged in some standardised way to check for CSSU installation. However, I currently have no idea of the correct way to do this.

I think we need guidelines. Well thought of. There are console only program packages compiled in CSSU environments that have broken enter key in Nokia's 1.3.1 latest official release. Are they testing good? On CSSU devices, yeah, on non-CSSU, red-flags (using ctrl-m for enter is enough for red-flag i hope?). Which version is the truth testers should follow/grade?

sixwheeledbeast 2013-08-14 22:17

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1367319)
I think we need guidelines. Well thought of. There are console only program packages compiled in CSSU environments that have broken enter key in Nokia's 1.3.1 latest official release. Are they testing good? On CSSU devices, yeah, on non-CSSU, red-flags (using ctrl-m for enter is enough for red-flag i hope?). Which version is the truth testers should follow/grade?

Personally I would treat this as a thumbs down and comment on the bug. IMO the package should be adapted to suit PR1.3.1 and CSSU or made to conflict/depend on them.
This is why we have package testing, not everyone will have the same setup.

The future of Maemo is CSSU so IMO packages need to keep up to date and support it.

szopin 2013-08-14 22:25

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1367322)
Personally I would treat this as a thumbs down and comment on the bug. IMO the package should be adapted to suit PR1.3.1 and CSSU or made to conflict/depend on them.
This is why we have package testing, not everyone will have the same setup.

The future of Maemo is CSSU so IMO packages need to keep up to date and support it.

I think this is the problem, while everyone updated their packages (in theory) from 1.0 to 1.1 and .2 and .3, CSSU cannot really let backwards incompatibility to creep in, as having all the devs to update once again from .3 to .3CSSU-X is not going to happen (and sadly with more branches of cssu even less probable)

panjgoori 2013-08-15 02:44

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
i know 2 packages which are stable but are still in Extras-Devel. 1. Filebox 2. Picodrive. both are stable and working flawlessly. will check more packages and report.

Scorpius 2013-08-15 04:52

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
Are you guys manually importing packages to extras-testing?

EDIT: freemangordon already explained everything to me on IRC.

sixwheeledbeast 2013-08-15 07:09

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by panjgoori (Post 1367343)
i know 2 packages which are stable but are still in Extras-Devel. 1. Filebox 2. Picodrive. both are stable and working flawlessly. will check more packages and report.

FWIW if you check the links in the OP, Filebox has some issues and no active maintainer which is why it's stuck there.

sixwheeledbeast 2013-08-16 11:22

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1367014)
connectagram 1.0.1maemo0-1

Section: Games
Dev: Nicolai Hess

http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...1.0.1maemo0-1/

3/6 votes so far...
:)

sixwheeledbeast 2013-08-21 11:43

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
Ok so it's been 7 days and still only 3 votes :(


http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...1.0.1maemo0-1/

I'll leave it until next week before I post the next package for testing.

Edit:-

Also can I refer you to #maemo-meeting regarding broken packages.

http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-meeting-irclo...08-16T21:26:36

marmistrz 2013-08-21 12:34

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
Please let packages depending on qtquickcompat get into -testing

freemangordon 2013-08-21 13:45

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1368528)
Please let packages depending on qtquickcompat get into -testing

And what stops them?

EDIT:

omg http://lists.midgard-project.org/pip...ry/010555.html

ginggs 2013-08-27 11:00

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1365912)
Also if any developers feel like supplying fixes or becoming a maintainer of a package, feel free to request that on the package interface.

What happens if the original developer is MIA?

After packages get migrated to Extras, shouldn't they appear at http://maemo.org/downloads/Maemo5/ ?
That page doesn't seem to have been updated since November 2012.

sixwheeledbeast 2013-08-27 11:28

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ginggs (Post 1369689)
What happens if the original developer is MIA?

If regarding a bug in an application. Report on bugs.maemo.org then post a link to that on talk.maemo.org. Also try to contact maintainer via his bugtracker link if different.

If regarding becoming a maintainer. Request in package interface, ask on applications talk thread. Also try to contact maintainer via his bugtracker link if different. Then if no answer in reasonable time, contact repo management, council or myself and I'll pass the message on at a council meeting.

nokiabot 2013-08-27 16:38

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
dillo and dooble both packages are not downloadable ham says packages not found.

misiak 2013-08-27 17:46

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1368540)

One of greatest commits of all time, I guess :P "fix" for a "bug" :P And it was over there for the past 2.5 years! :O

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixwheeledbeast (Post 1368519)
Ok so it's been 7 days and still only 3 votes :(

http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...1.0.1maemo0-1/

6/6 now ;)

sixwheeledbeast 2013-08-27 18:48

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by misiak (Post 1369799)
6/6 now ;)

Thanks to you and all the other package testers.

This weeks package is:-

tracker-cfg


A small application written in python to tweak the N900's tracker configuration

http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...r-cfg/0.3.2-4/

This already has 4/6 votes so should be a nice easy one this week ;) Enjoy Testing.

fw190 2013-08-27 18:55

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
Just voted. I have used since ages and all worked well.

panjgoori 2013-08-27 19:11

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
voted too. i'm also using this app since i bought my N900. tracker-cfg now have 7 votes. ready for extras.

misiak 2013-08-27 19:13

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fw190 (Post 1369821)
Just voted. I have used since ages and all worked well.

The same, used it on my second device and didn't notice any problems. Didn't test the uninstallation, though, but voted anyway (as http://maemo.org/packages/source/vie...r-cfg/0.3.2-4/ only has postinst script to compile files and no fancy postrm stuff, so all looks rather good...). We could argue whether it should restore the default settings after removal, but I personally think it's good it doesn't (at least I don't see that functionality in the package sources). Now it has 7/6 votes.

marmistrz 2013-08-27 19:35

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
voted. no problems ever since

marmistrz 2013-08-27 19:36

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
there should be a possibility to list all packages of a maintainer (i.e. all pushed by me)

sixwheeledbeast 2013-08-27 20:12

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by panjgoori (Post 1369825)
voted too. i have also using this app since i bought my N900. tracker-cfg now have 7 votes. ready for extras.

Great thank you all. Don't stop there, plenty more in the QA queue to test. :)

http://maemo.org/packages/repository...xtras-testing/

AapoRantalainen 2013-09-02 06:40

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1369837)
there should be a possibility to list all packages of a maintainer (i.e. all pushed by me)

If you have ~6 hours time, you can download every package page and grep for keyword (=your name):
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...9&postcount=64

nokiabot 2013-09-02 08:22

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
so i finally logged in :) lots of good packages to vote.

sixwheeledbeast 2013-09-03 18:29

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
This weeks package is:-

hamsterfiler

A cute little file manager with some advanced features regardless. Written in Qt/C++

http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...filer/0.6.4-1/

Happy Testing.

marmistrz 2013-09-03 19:00

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
qt-components-blanco-theme has been removed from (!extras-devel). Why?

sixwheeledbeast 2013-09-03 20:10

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marmistrz (Post 1371771)
qt-components-blanco-theme has been removed from (!extras-devel). Why?

This isn't the place to report issues.
FWIW the package is in devel as far as I can tell.
http://maemo.org/packages/view/qt-co...-blanco-theme/

panjgoori 2013-09-03 21:11

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
hamsterfiler now have 7 votes. ready to be moved to Extras. and also Voted.

nokiabot 2013-09-04 06:37

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
so i figured it that little thumb:D that hamster got 8 votes now:)

sixwheeledbeast 2013-09-10 16:20

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
This weeks testing package is....

rwx-calc

A simple but handy assistant for calculating Unix like file permissions.
Written in Python with Qt GUI.

http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...-calc/0.0.1-1/

sixwheeledbeast 2013-09-19 18:48

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
Bump see post above ... still needs more votes.
:)

panjgoori 2013-09-21 21:16

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
bump. voted. still needs 2 votes.

ade 2013-09-23 16:00

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
It took some time and "bump" posts, but rwx-calc has received enough votes and it promoted to extras-testing.

Thanks to all who made the effort to vote.

sixwheeledbeast 2013-09-23 16:36

Re: [Testing Squad] August 2013 - Lets get testing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ade (Post 1376265)
It took some time and "bump" posts, but rwx-calc has received enough votes and it promoted to extras-testing.

Thanks to all who made the effort to vote.

Thanks ade for letting us know, I can now find another package for the testing squad. :)
Another quality package promoted to userland, thank you to all the package testers for taking the time to QA. :D

I am guessing to mean promoted to "extras" not "-testing"

sixwheeledbeast 2013-12-17 20:39

Re: [Testing Squad] Lets get testing
 
Ok so after a break it's time to get some more interest in promoting packages again. Thanks to the testers here, this thread has managed to enable promotion on at least 4 packages so far.
If you have not read the OP I recommend you do.
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...12&postcount=1

I will start to feature packages up for promotion again that I have tested.

This week I will start with...

Vagalume

Client for Libre.fm-compatible radio services Vagalume is a Last.fm/Libre.fm client designed for the GNOME desktop environment.

http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...6-1fremantle1/


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