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I'm surprised that nobody brought yet this link: http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_closed_packages
It has list of Fremantle's closed source package and their current state. It could contain more information (e.g. what functionality is missing if package is dropped out). If you know more than wikipage has, please fill it. Maybe there should be more links to the threads where alternative package is discussed (or discussed to drop entirely). * What other closed source bits there are than those packages? I can say NOLO-bootloader and flasher-tool. Is there something else? (Offtopic1: Do we have open source flasher, or only cold-flasher? http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80840 ) (Offtopic2: Is this most recent state of NOLO-hacking? http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...5&postcount=25 ) |
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Did they go opensource when I wasn't looking? Last I knew it was all still pretty closed, with a rather large NDA and license fee to even get partial access. |
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They're similar enough to get used to both--but they're clearly different. Thankfully, the GNU stuff can easily be brought in to replace the pure UNIX stuff in most of these UNIX OS's like Solaris, AIX, IRIX, HPUX, and the various array of actual UNIX OS's that I've had to work with over the years. They're different enough to really KNOW the difference when you try to work with them--especially on a day-to-day basis--but thanks to POSIX and to the GNU, they CAN be similar enough to mitigate those differences pretty easily if you try. BTW: Trivia fact for you to ponder in case you didn't learn this along the way... GNU is an acronym for 'GNU is Not UNIX', thusly making my point EVEN more painfully obvious. Here's their website where they even state as much, JUST in case you questioned my accuracy: http://www.gnu.org/ ...you'll note they call their operating system 'UNIX-like' instead of calling it a UNIX or using that weird 'unixoid' term you made up. heheh.. AT&T purist. :) You're a funny guy. Eventually, with enough practical experience and knowledge, someday you too will know enough to hold up your own end of a conversation, though. Keep learning, lad! |
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I just know *nix but its like its censored so instead resort to typing "linux" and that way more people understand.
unixoid isn't bad, but certainly not common. It would be like saying unix-ish or unix-like, aunix (a means false in Latin). How about un-unix abbreviate it to "un-IX" ? |
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If you're going to call all POSIX compliant OSes UNIX based, you would have to include Windows in that grouping (the Windows kernel has a POSIX compatibility layer that's 100% POSIX compliant, which is actually more than Linux) and we all know that isn't true.
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The reason I brought it up is that will be RIM phones in 2012 based on QNX. Not knowing what Nokia will end up doing, these may be the only commercially available *nix phones in 2012. With Qt officially supported, If they can be rooted like the Playbook was, then I see potential. I'd rather drop the semantics about Unix and Linux, and focus on what *nix phones or *nix phone software are next after fremantle. |
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"Unix was not designed to stop its users from doing stupid things, as that would also stop them from doing clever things." – Doug Gwyn osx may be based on unix and be somewhat unix compliant, but its not unix, not from an usability standpoint nor from the philosophical standpoint |
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