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nMIK-3 2010-03-07 05:34

Ovi Store and App Manager must be merge
 
On the N900, I love both. Even thought the Ovi Store on the N900 is nothing more that a mobile webpage, it is only a matter of time until Nokia transform it in in a real application. And even thought App Manager lacks major aspects like, Pictures, Reviews, Short by options etc is a great App Manager utility.

First of all having two different "doors" of software is simple annoying for everyone and confusing to the end/simple user.
And I agree N900/Maemo 5 was clearly aiming for geeks but with MeeGo going commercial, having two different "Applications Stores" in one device is simple WRONG.

I believe that Ovi Store and App Manager should be merge in MeeGo.

Nokia can simply add all Application Manager functions, like Application Catalogs/repositories, Updates and Uninstalls in Ovi Store. Then App Manager content can benefit from Ovi Store's abilities of Description, Pictures, Rating System, Reviews, Recommendations, the ability to filter apps by most popular, top free, top paid, most recent etc.

I really hope to see this happening on the upcoming Nokia Meego devices. What do you thing?

tuminoid 2010-03-07 06:24

Re: Ovi Store and App Manager must be merge
 
Sadly doing this would mean 3rd party software, such as maemo.org Extras, would have no channel (as there is much stricker rules of submission under Ovi brand) and there then would be two application managers instead.

I think the submission system itself should be changed fundamentally, which would allow all available apps to be installable under Ovi brand. Of course it should be allowed to have any repository installed still, but the main source for apps should be Ovi Store for simplicity and marketing etc reasons.

jcompagner 2010-03-07 09:16

Re: Ovi Store and App Manager must be merge
 
app manager just should do both. maybe the app manager has an extra selection when you press 'download' and that is that you then can select 'ovi' or 'extras'
i dont see the relation between an app manager and ovi. Its not that the app manager IS ovi, it can do ovi..

Dave999 2010-03-07 09:31

Re: Ovi Store and App Manager must be merge
 
please don't. I do not trust ovi store. Take 3 apps, pay for 4 and shut up :)

nMIK-3 2010-03-07 09:45

Re: Ovi Store and App Manager must be merge
 
There is absolutely NO REASON of having two Application Managers. Is confusing, is annoying, is unprofessional, is just STUPID.

And since Nokia is pushing Ovi Services like no tomorrow with Ovi Store being in the center of their strategy, if there is a possibility of merger, is very easy to figure out what stays and what is going...

ysss 2010-03-07 09:52

Re: Ovi Store and App Manager must be merge
 
I smell dependency hell with using rpm and multiple repositories...

attila77 2010-03-07 10:12

Re: Ovi Store and App Manager must be merge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nMIK-3 (Post 558429)
I really hope to see this happening on the upcoming Nokia Meego devices. What do you thing?

I think be careful what you wish for.

zail 2010-03-07 10:37

Re: Ovi Store and App Manager must be merge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nMIK-3 (Post 558429)

First of all having two different "doors" of software is simple annoying for everyone and confusing to the end/simple user.
And I agree N900/Maemo 5 was clearly aiming for geeks but with MeeGo going commercial, having two different "Applications Stores" in one device is simple WRONG.


Not quite sure I understand your objection here.. why is it bad? Surely those who are purely end users will use Ovi by default, whilst the more geeky amoungst us will use app manager and repos? Maybe app manager could have 2 sections for Ovi and Other but any other integration would be detrimntal I feel..

nMIK-3 2010-03-07 10:48

Re: Ovi Store and App Manager must be merge
 
I definitely do not want to turn this on a VS thread.
And please do not get me wrong, I do not mean that App Manager needs to go. I am talking about a merger of both Ovi Store and App Manager.

An Ovi Store, with the ability to add extra repositories, Update and Uninstall software is the perfect example of an App manager for me.

attila77 2010-03-07 11:00

Re: Ovi Store and App Manager must be merge
 
It is hard to merge fire and water :) The Ovi store folks still have not made up their mind about how to deal with open source projects. maemo.org apps outnumber Ovi apps by at least 10:1, so Ovi folks might fear they will be swamped, and that maemo.org apps might endanger the ones in Ovi. On the other hand, maemo.org IS the de-facto source for apps for the N900, it's Ovi that suffers from software anemia.


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