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qgil 2010-05-25 07:36

MeeGo-Harmattan HE
 
Hi, PR1.2 for Maemo 5 has been announced at http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/...e-release-1-2/

The announcement also contains this information:

Quote:

Many of you have been asking whether the new MeeGo platform will be supported on the N900 once it’s device-ready. Although Nokia N900 devices are being used for platform development and testing purposes by those involved in the MeeGo project, we don’t have plans for a full scale commercial MeeGo upgrade on the Nokia N900. The reason? It’s really about ensuring that you have the best possible experience designed for the features on your Nokia N900 device.
In other words, the MeeGo-Harmattan release from Nokia will not be officially supported in the N900. But if you have an engineering mindset and you are interested in exploring what can be technically achieved by the community, please be active in this thread.

Carsten, the maemo.org distmaster, is in the best position to coordinate this effort. He has all the Mer experience and he is working in the open project to provide an N900 hardware adaptation for the MeeGo OS. He is also used to collaborate with members of the MeeGo Devices team at Nokia like Tero Kojo or myself, who will pay attention to the progress of this effort.

One of the main factors to be considered in this initiative is the key role of Qt, a key layer in the MeeGo architecture and a very useful bridge across platforms and releases. Qt 4.6 is now officially supported in Maemo 5 and Qt 4.7 is already in extras-devel. This is a very good indicator of the possibilities Qt based apps have beyond Maemo 5, into MeeGo and also the upcoming Symbian releases.


BIG DISCLAIMER

Please don't bug the people working here with questions/complaints about Maemo 5, open/closed software, official updates or MeeGo. There are plenty of threads for this just a click away.

The project discussed here is about getting the API, UX and apps of the first MeeGo device from Nokia (aka "MeeGo-Harmattan", provisional name) running in the N900. For insiders, this basically means making Harmattan run in the N900. The Harmattan content is not public yet and nobody really knows how good the releases of this initiative will be. Follow the MeeGo hardware adaptation for N900 thread to have an idea of the worst case scenario to be expected.

How can you help? Please be constructive. Be ready to test and provide feedback. And be patient: this project can't dliver faster than the MeeGo & Harmattan projects themselves.

Thank you!

EDIT: Subject changed as requested.

dieg 2010-05-25 09:06

Re: N900 community support for the future MeeGo based release from Nokia
 
Let's do this. Count me in. I'll be glad to help supporting MeeGo in the N900 :^)

S0urcerr0r 2010-05-25 09:11

Re: N900 community support for the future MeeGo based release from Nokia
 
Thanks for a good post :)

Ok. That sounds great as long as we will still get the same newer driver revisions to the N900 as the Meego products with the same SoC will get, and equal OS speed. It will not be ok if Meego gets a 30+fps GUI with flawless vsync, if the same optimizations wont be done to Maemo.

but of course it will be great if the community manages to port Meego (with full driver support) to the N900 :)

btw. an important, and even trivial question - should we be able to expect support for new Qt versions to maemo as long as new Qt versions gets support for Meego?

Stskeeps 2010-05-25 09:25

Re: N900 community support for the future MeeGo based release from Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by S0urcerr0r (Post 675133)
Ok. That sounds great as long as we will still get the same newer driver revisions to the N900 as the Meego products with the same SoC will get, and equal OS speed. It will not be ok if Meego gets a 30+fps GUI with flawless vsync, if the same optimizations wont be done to Maemo.

but of course it will be great if the community manages to port Meego (with full driver support) to the N900 :)

We already have updated driver revisions in MeeGo 1.0 for N900 at least. Would be silly to ship old drivers :) Also, keep in mind, for the hardware adaptation, it is a professional team working on this. What would be provided in here, is basically the differentiation (on top of a UX on top of a hardware adaptation on top of MeeGo Core)

harrihakulinen 2010-05-25 10:40

Re: N900 community support for the future MeeGo based release from Nokia
 
Hello,

Just in order to be consistent: This kind of work that Quim proposes will be needed to create "full", open and nicely usable system on N900 on top of MeeGo.

Br,
//Harri

jsa 2010-05-25 11:06

Re: N900 community support for the future MeeGo based release from Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 675182)
What would be provided in here, is basically the differentiation (on top of a UX on top of a hardware adaptation on top of MeeGo Core)

Trying to wrap my head around this. What I imagined was that the handheld UX to be released soon after 1.0 would be the reference UX, am I completely off with this? However, by differentiation here you mean the Nokia differentiation on top?

Are we talking about two different projects here, the first under the Linux Foundation MeeGo project(N900 HW adaptation and stuff) and another under Nokia umbrella(differentiation) or am I mixing something up?

qgil 2010-05-25 11:28

Re: N900 community support for the future MeeGo based release from Nokia
 
Sorry, I thought my first post was clear.

In short, this thread is about creating a Hacker/Community edition for the N900 of the OS and apps that Nokia will ship in the first device based on MeeGo.

jsa 2010-05-25 11:46

Re: N900 community support for the future MeeGo based release from Nokia
 
Ok, makes more sense now. Thanks to Stskeeps too, didn't manage in time ;)

daperl 2010-05-25 11:57

Re: N900 community support for the future MeeGo based release from Nokia
 
Does anyone see WRT playing a role here? Or is the current thinking that a MeeGo hacker edition for the n900 would not use WRT as a main component?

Hynkel 2010-05-25 12:02

Re: N900 community support for the future MeeGo based release from Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qgil (Post 675523)
Sorry, I thought my first post was clear.

In short, this thread is about creating a Hacker/Community edition for the N900 of the OS and apps that Nokia will ship in the first device based on MeeGo.

So things like phone, messaging, media player, the nokia versions, will be open source? Are there any plans to open source the maemo versions of these apps once Meego is released?


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