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kingstu 2016-10-20 00:46

Motorola Z phones
 
The Motorola Z with it's Moto Mods is an interesting expansion of Jolla and the Other Half. There is a Moto Mod Developer section where custom creating custom Moto Mods is encouraged. Perhaps a slide out keyboard would be easier with this? Or an e-ink screen? Has anyone considered this as a platform for tinkering? There is a raspberry pi interface also available.

pichlo 2016-10-20 07:27

Re: Motorola Z phones
 
Jolla had such an opportunity three years ago. They had the TOH concept. They had a promising new OS with a promising new UI. And they wasted it all. Jolla would go down the annals as the epitome of a bad business strategy - except they won't because their execution was so bad that no one has even registered them.

Good ideas tend to reappear. It does not mean someone has copied them. The eye was such a good idea that it has evolved independently at least 40 times. Some mathematical or scientific ideas and discoveries popped up in ancient times and were forgotten, only to be discovered again. No one copied them, they were truly discovered independently.

We might expect good ideas to pop up again in the future. The other half concept, the swipe interface... It does not mean that anyone copied Jolla. Most likely those who came up with them have never even heard about Jolla. Which is kinda sad. Jolla had a chance. They wasted it.

tortoisedoc 2016-10-20 11:37

Re: Motorola Z phones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kingstu (Post 1517032)
The Motorola Z with it's Moto Mods is an interesting expansion of Jolla and the Other Half. There is a Moto Mod Developer section where custom creating custom Moto Mods is encouraged. Perhaps a slide out keyboard would be easier with this? Or an e-ink screen? Has anyone considered this as a platform for tinkering? There is a raspberry pi interface also available.

Sounds like a device made for SFOS!

r0kk3rz 2016-10-20 14:07

Re: Motorola Z phones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1517037)
Jolla had such an opportunity three years ago. They had the TOH concept. They had a promising new OS with a promising new UI. And they wasted it all. Jolla would go down the annals as the epitome of a bad business strategy - except they won't because their execution was so bad that no one has even registered them.

They may have had the concept, but they lacked the technology.

The Jolla Phones i2c expansion is incredibly limited compared to the Project Ara Greybus expansion that these moto mods phones are using. That simply was not available three years ago, and certainly not on Jollas budget.

Maybe they could have handled a usb based expansion like Fairphone 2 did, but i'm sure they probably looked into that.

Quite simply, whilst its a nice idea, I don't think Jolla is the right company to be able to bring this to market, along with a whole new OS as well.

kingstu 2016-10-21 13:46

Re: Motorola Z phones
 
I didn't mean to infer that Motorola copied Jolla. I just thought of all the people working hard to create custom TOH could perhaps find an easier way to do some hardware tinkering with Moto Mods. While many ideas might not have a large audience it might allow for easier development and prototyping. I can see a lot being possible. Hopefully they will license the technology to other device manufacturers so that it can get more support. That might be a better decision than trying to leverage it on their own.

pichlo 2016-10-22 06:20

Re: Motorola Z phones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kingstu (Post 1517121)
I didn't mean to infer that Motorola copied Jolla.

Yes, I know. And sorry about my little tirade. I was not suggesting that you did, I was just generally bemoaning the current state of affairs.

kingstu 2016-11-03 21:34

Re: Motorola Z phones
 
Motorola is trying to capture the creative spirit with it's Moto Mods Challengel where you can get support and funding for your ideas. All those TOH ideas can be recycled again and become a product. So who wants to build a keyboard or e-ink display?

kingstu 2017-02-15 16:13

Re: Motorola Z phones
 
Some of the moto mod finalists have already launched their campaign. There are still more to come for the next few weeks.

chenliangchen 2017-02-16 14:43

Re: Motorola Z phones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kingstu (Post 1518002)
Motorola is trying to capture the creative spirit with it's Moto Mods Challengel where you can get support and funding for your ideas. All those TOH ideas can be recycled again and become a product. So who wants to build a keyboard or e-ink display?

Please wait for the Keyboard Mod that will have more information shared "later" (No Soon here)

Currently still working on the structure and concept verification.

What I can say is it will be in a industrial standard, not like the other most IGG mods project now.

Hopefully I can get some maemian support once more work is done.


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