Pimp My N8x0-Part 4 -Best encoding for n8x0 as well as for film for preservation purposes...
 

I found my old encoding methods lacking ...so to keep the thread short...use mediacoder, load up the preset for converting your nit...works great. use with mplayer on your nit, voila. simple.
The other preset is for transcoding your films into the media, industry and gov't standard for film preservation. All the aspects of the preset are not only open source but at the top of the current heap of best codecs. MKV X264 AC3 at settings that are just right for fluidity of fast moving scenes. You can lower the vid rate but don't go lower than 1500 or you start compromising film integrity and the point of standards to begin with. Comparably a standard good xvid needs to be at least at 3500 vid rate to compete with how good it looks with the x264 at 2000 vid rate. You can go up in vid rate but going up to 3000 would be comparable to xvid at 4500 vid rate. Great if you want your finest film preserved well. Any higher and you may not see a diff tho.
At 2000 vid rate the "average" is a GB per Hour of Film. So you can gauge how big a file will be thus.
It will improve the quality of your copies...but it cannot do miracles.
If you have truly crappy copies ....after transcoding will just look crappy (but at least they don't look truly crappy :D ).
So grab your best copies and enjoy.

-endsormeans

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Can you upload a 1 - 2 minute sample video for viewing?

Thanks. :)

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I use vid4n810 and tablet-encode to transcode video to be played in n810. They work very well. They are scripts, and are based on ffmpeg or mencode, not sure at the moment. I may try to see if there are any adventages of the method posted here.

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I've been using this site quite extensively lately for watching YouTube tv shows.

http://www.clipconverter.cc/

It works best using Tear web browser.

Transcode to AVI, also set it to 768 kbps and keep the 360P default setting.

Make sure to uncheck their new Auto Mode feature.

I've seen this site download a 23 minute show in two seconds and then transcode it in under 2 minutes after that.

Once it's finished, download the converted file.

For Mplayer to be at it's best, you'll need to terminate any running programs, and most likely, even go offline.

Give it a try and post your experience on this.

Cheers. :)

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I stumbled upon a download online and was very impressed by the playback without changing any of the coding.

Media information:
624x352
Xvid
AVI
Stereo
Sample rate 48000 Hz
Bit rate 128 kb/s
Frame rate 25
Streaming bitrate was around 900

Here's a short sample of the video:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/dw...jdj/Joseph.avi

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Thanks, I will try this config. Still using my N800 to watch movies!

On a side note, Addison, do you still have the Garnet Vm deb ? I lost mine because got married.

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With cartoons, there's a little more flexibility with what can be done.

Here's a sample video that's 720x480 with a slightly reduced frame rate.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/8g...or_Strange.avi

And yeah, Martin, I still have the deb for Garnet.

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Good to know. I lost mine, can you send it for me?

Thanks in advance!

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Oh man I know what are you talking about! This sh1t happens with me every time I got married!

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:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

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Sure.

But first you need at least 10 posts here before you can send a private message.

You'll also need to promise not to marry again so this doesn't happen another time.

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When I moved from my parents house, I lost a lot of things. Thankfully, I also found my lost USB OTG cable that was missing for the N800.

Its so funny that a device so old has so many funcionality and only for now the newer Android tablets are implementing these type of things.

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Funny thing is that this device has more then 2x lower CPU, 8x less RAM, but is still can do many things which new devices can't.
I also have Palm T|X and Palm m505 and this devices are superfast with 33 MHz Motorola Dragonball VZ and 8 megs of memory... And possibility of a few days of active usage without recharge :cool:

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I'm currently looking at something I've never tried before and I am getting fairly good results so far.

So I've been watching Hikaro no Go on YouTube (please don't judge me) and converting each video using that website I provided earlier in this thread.

Anyway, I really like this site for cartoons.

http://anime.thehylia.com/downloads/series/hikaru-no-go

They tend to be in AVI format, 640x480 with a bit rate of over 1000.

A tad too much for our older tablets to handle.

Using the command line for mplayer though, right now I have something like this:

mplayer -cache 8192 -framedrop -x 480 -y 360 /path/to/file.avi

I'm going to test all possible combinations with screen resolutions, audio and frame rates and see what might be the best, overall solution.

By the way, are there any benefits in using the -vo, -ao, or -pp options?

I'm not following exactly what those can do.

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For now, on that anime site, I'm a little partial to playing a downloaded video using this command.

mplayer -fps 22 /media/mmc1/video.avi

You get a 640X480 resolution and really, really good audio.

It does chunk up at times however, but for the most part, it looks and sounds great.

Setting the fps to 21 or lower and I can't seem to sync the audio anymore, no matter what I do.

I'm still looking for the best possible solution.

Any help or feedback would be nice. :)

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Here in brazil, the most popular android phones are Galaxy Y and Galaxy Pocket, and people uploads a lot of files codded at 480x320.

And the N800 runs this files flawlessy.

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Could someone please explain why Mplayer can handle a 240P .flv YouTube video, but not have the correct codecs to play a 360P .flv one?

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Is it possible to lower the audio bit rate on the fly by command line?

Some of the cartoons I'm trying to view have a rate of 192 kbps, which is too much, and I'd like to drop it down to 128 if this can be done.

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I will just add this, this is not something to debate, but there is an app for windows called WinX HD Video Converter Deluxe.

I use it frequently 'cause you can get to the point where file is small, qualitly nice and n800 can run it just like that (MPlayer is needed).

For those who using mplayer is a very good idea - I have my files converted to 768x432 with bitrate around 1000 and no change in audio (For most video files they are 128kbps, 44khz). This gave you a file weight around 300mb with very nice qualitly.

You can use it to convert your video for any of your devices.

This app works very nice emulated with Wine at least under Debian.

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So, I got curious about how much space I could save if I fed my DVD rips through an encoder more suited to the N810's capabilities.
I found this thread, downloaded the presets and got MediaCoder installed...however, using them as-is results in the image being squashed if I feed it a 16:9 AR movie. If I adjust that setting, will it completely ruin the file-size savings and defeat the point?