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Ridd92 2017-09-08 08:02

Problem with cloning OS to new SD Card.
 
Hi there.

I know about other related post about os cloning, but mine, I believe is kinda different.

endsormeans - I'm really counting on you :D

Problem is related to nokia n800 with damanged internal slot. (Of course Im using only external)

Few days ago I bought new SD Class 4 16gb memory card and since that time Im still fighting.

I did everything like I always do (Not my first rodeo). I was using wiki instructions.

Card itself looks fine. Can be fill up to full and than copy data back without any problems, even when card is partitioned.

So I did, partition it I mean and started cloning. Everything went fine to the point of nupgrade.sh 3. Firstly everything was doing well, but when the tar takes places for most of the time I get "No such file or directory". Soon time over process and with "Aborting" message.

I've already tried different tar found on the web but still no change.

I decided to take another run with microsd card but the same specs. Everything went fine and system booted, just like that.

What cound be making this kind of problem? And why, when card is perfectly fine.

If someone ever faced this problem and could help I will be very happy :) I can attach any log for someone willing to help

In addidition. I can only use external slot as my internal have broken pins

endsormeans 2017-09-08 19:01

Re: Problem with cloning OS to new SD Card.
 
I am as shocked as anybody here ...
counting on me??
The world is definitely going to hell.
:D

Nuh-nuh-NUH-nuuuuh-NUH!

Endsormeans to the rescue!

https://media.giphy.com/media/ToZASbaz858oo/giphy.gif

(ok it is really powdered toast man ...so sue me.)

(Damn! that strobe is hard on the eyes...I think it is inducing a seizure...)

Number 1- Stop stuffing saltine crackers in the internal card slot :D

Number 2- Unless you are researching and testing stuff in the wiki...
I suggest that you do not use the methods involved there...for the n8x0.
keep it simple.
real simple.
console tools v1
in it ...it has pbeasy and pb (to do complex work ...)
always works.

if pbeasy or pb doesn't work...it isn't the program..or method involved...it is either the card or the device at fault.

Ridd92 2017-09-09 09:58

Re: Problem with cloning OS to new SD Card.
 
@ensormeans

I will be here for the rest of my life :). At this point I was thinking maybe I'm the god? The heck, I handled everything n8x0 thrown at me, but this time? No no, I just got back to earth xD

Just to be sure, console tools will do all the work for me? Or what?

Code:

Number 1- Stop stuffing saltine crackers in the internal card slot
You know, I just couldn't resist xD

Truth is, I have another n800 unit almost in perfect shape and with setup, that is good for me, but shame, I don't use it. I like this unit to stay that way, so I got another, that was treathed horribly. I'm not saying that I thread it easier it's got a nice time with me xP but serious I rather test anything on the unit that I won't be so sad to thrown away :)

endsormeans 2017-09-09 17:29

Re: Problem with cloning OS to new SD Card.
 
I completely understand.
I have 1 n800 that has a busted kickstand I got it that way...don't know how the guy sheered it right off...
So now I use it on this
https://motorino.ca/pub/media/catalo.../m/xml-blk.jpg

in a clamp...
no case...
The other day I was ripping down a hill at 80mph and hit a bump and it flew out of the clamp...
took a beating...
all it got at an 80mph impact and roll ..
was a few small scuffs to the sides...
LOVE my n8x0's ...

ok...so down to business...

Never used console tools v1?
Definitely a lot more fun than the wiki method.
Just make sure to use your comp. to ready the sd card ...
and follow the instructions...
and I suggest (and so do the instructions ..) that you temporarily set the font in xterm to 8 or 10 ..before opening console tools v1 pbeasy or pb ...
since you will have issues otherwise with showing the options properly...
It is a great deal of fun to use the console tools v1 ...
makes a breeze out of the process...
Just make sure you have a clean unfilled fresh flash of diablo or chinook or whatever to work from with only the bare essentials installed..(that includes only the needed repos...just to make sure...)
It makes it smoother process without glitches...with pbeasy.

And for starters I do suggest pbeasy...
then... when you feel brave... use pb.
You can do a LOT with it...
backup is a breeze...
cloning ...
copying your os setup to another sd ..usb..whatever ..a cinch.
multiple os's on your sd card ..easy..

I think you will enjoy it.
Pull out a magnifying glass to read the font size though...

endsormeans 2017-09-09 17:32

Re: Problem with cloning OS to new SD Card.
 
and if you need to download it ..one of my links in "pimp my n8x0" walk through has console tools v1 ...in my drive...to download it.

pichlo 2017-09-10 06:28

Re: Problem with cloning OS to new SD Card.
 
@endso, that thing can do 80mph??? Was it a steep hill?

Kinda reminds me of an episode of Top Gear when they pitched an old Wartburg (or was it Trabant?) against a top-of-the-range Porche. The test was which one does one mile faster. They said the old banger just might have a chance with a bit of help from gravity. So they... dropped it from a helicopter. It won.

endsormeans 2017-09-10 16:02

Re: Problem with cloning OS to new SD Card.
 
it was a pretty decent hill...
That sucker flies so straight and true at high velo and it corners so tight...
beautiful machine...

drop her from a helicopter and she'll burst into flames from the speed. :D

it is the perfect island hopper for my commuting...
4 horse Bosch motor goes straight up hills without slowing..
panasonic li-ion top of the line batts
nice tight disk brakes..
weighs in at a little over 150lbs..
I get 160km before I swap out the batts and swap another set in...
plugged into a wall socket ..it takes 4-5 hours to charge up..and costs .25 cents ...
the ferries regard it as a cycle ..so I just pay walk on fees...
no need for insurance , gas , exorbitant ferry fees...
I calculated in my yearly savings I could buy 3 of these a year ...
and now with gas prices soaring here...
It was definitely the smart buy.

I would have bought a "Zero" ...
but living on a small Island ..with not enough space or real good long stretches of road ...and..commuting to yet another Island daily...
It was just a waste of what the Zero could do ...sadly I can't fully utilize the Zero here...

mmm...did I mention mine is an on-road / off-road dirt bike too?
:D
wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

endsormeans 2017-09-11 20:35

Re: Problem with cloning OS to new SD Card.
 
ok ...
update time...
how you doin' Rid?
mucked about with pbeasy or pb yet?

sally_sally 2017-09-12 14:07

Re: Problem with cloning OS to new SD Card.
 
@ endo- a lil off topic but you kill me with the Avatar. Genius! ;)

endsormeans 2017-09-12 15:07

Re: Problem with cloning OS to new SD Card.
 
Off topic is my specialty...
Well ...others here may be far better at it than I ...not mentioning anyone who's name rhymes with Mave stixblundredandblixdekix.... :D

Wha'?
Powdered Toast Man?
Not bad eh? :D

He is good in a pinch...
I got others though that'd make you laugh so hard you would be needing adult diapers.

sally_sally 2017-09-25 09:44

Re: Problem with cloning OS to new SD Card.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by endsormeans (Post 1534267)
Off topic is my specialty...
Well ...others here may be far better at it than I ...not mentioning anyone who's name rhymes with Mave stixblundredandblixdekix.... :D

Wha'?
Powdered Toast Man?
Not bad eh? :D

He is good in a pinch...
I got others though that'd make you laugh so hard you would be needing adult diapers.

:D:D Powdered Toast Man. You man are a Genius! :D:D

endsormeans 2017-09-25 16:44

Re: Problem with cloning OS to new SD Card.
 
Me?
Genius?
perhaps a wondrous Flat bread of Fabulousness..
perhaps an incredible Croissant of Creativity even...
.. hardly genius...
but it is kind of you.

Now then...the question on everyone's mind is ...
where the hell has Rid gone?

Rid ...
did you blow yourself up trying to use the cloning tools v1?


Hm,
I think that either Rid blewed hisself up-ed...
or...

the cloning was a complete success...
and he is now fighting "Rid-O a Rid-O" in a battle of wits and survival against his clone...

or ...

the clone killed him...

got "Rid" of the body (har har)....
took all his money
took his I.D. ...
is impersonating the now dead original Rid ...
and has buggered off to N. Dakota to bask on the beaches and live the good life..

If he comes back ...it probably isn't "him" anymore...
so somebody is gonna have to shoot the copy...
I can't do it...
I saw "Old Yeller" far too many times..

Poor Rid..
(original Rid that is...)
Miss him...

pichlo 2017-09-26 05:12

Re: Problem with cloning OS to new SD Card.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by endsormeans (Post 1535129)
the clone killed him...
impersonating the now dead original Rid ...
If he comes back ...it probably isn't "him" anymore...

A philosophical question. A clone is an exact replica of the original, right? So the two are indistinguishable. Otherwise it is not a clone, just a replica. Considering that is true, does any talk of "impersonating" even make sense?

endsormeans 2017-09-26 05:39

Re: Problem with cloning OS to new SD Card.
 
From a philo and Bio aspect of course you are completely correct.
From a sociological framework though....
If someone managed to clone themselves... this society would not look favourably upon the copy.
Hence the first understanding after the event I would have...and knowing my clone would be having the very same thought ...is that.." we both must immediately try to dispose of the other ..." ...for the very obvious reasons...
The clone if found out would not be treated as equally as the original in our society...if not killed...he would be dissected..
So.. naturally self preservation dictates ..he must try to kill me...dispose of my body...and replace me.
Of course the same thoughts will be going through my head.
First instinct regarding the socio dynamic currently...
We would try to kill the other.

However ...if by some fluke...societally ...the situation turned on its ear...
And everyone was spontaneously cloned at the same time...
Why that will immediately make a HUGE difference ...
Knowing utter chaos would be breaking out...everywhere..
My and my copies first instinct wouldn't be to kill each other...
I would know survival would best be counted on trust in such an "event"..
I could completely trust him...and I got his back ...jack.

So

Also...from the standpoint of the copy being identical ..from at the moment of creation ...yes...but ..after that...the experiential nature of creation dictates that we both will become different from each other.

So there is that aspect as well...

Lots people think it is cut and dried ...in a story plot way...but the reality is it would just get real messy...real fast...

sally_sally 2017-09-26 09:52

Re: Problem with cloning OS to new SD Card.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by endsormeans (Post 1535129)
Me?
Genius?
perhaps a wondrous Flat bread of Fabulousness..
perhaps an incredible Croissant of Creativity even...
.. hardly genius...
but it is kind of you.

Now then...the question on everyone's mind is ...
where the hell has Rid gone?

Rid ...
did you blow yourself up trying to use the cloning tools v1?


Hm,
I think that either Rid blewed hisself up-ed...
or...

the cloning was a complete success...
and he is now fighting "Rid-O a Rid-O" in a battle of wits and survival against his clone...

or ...

the clone killed him...

got "Rid" of the body (har har)....
took all his money
took his I.D. ...
is impersonating the now dead original Rid ...
and has buggered off to N. Dakota to bask on the beaches and live the good life..

If he comes back ...it probably isn't "him" anymore...
so somebody is gonna have to shoot the copy...
I can't do it...
I saw "Old Yeller" far too many times..

Poor Rid..
(original Rid that is...)
Miss him...

You are as cool as Snap-chat glasses :D:D Ever heard of those??

endsormeans 2017-09-26 17:55

Re: Problem with cloning OS to new SD Card.
 
No...that is a completely new complement I have heard..
never been called that...
been called many other things that aren't repeatable in public though..
cool huh?..


so how cool are these Snapchat glasses?
are they Foss?
are they maemo compatible?
give me super powers?
will they blind me?
how are they powered?
I hope in an environmentally friendly way...I prefer harnessing the power of the mighty Gerbil.
...Clean
...non polluting (well they do crap a lot..but it is bio organic) ...
and affordable to run on a wheel...

what do they look like ?
these?

http://galeri.uludagsozluk.com/58/elton-john_34590.jpg

Please say they don't.

sally_sally 2017-09-27 07:52

Re: Problem with cloning OS to new SD Card.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by endsormeans (Post 1535228)
No...that is a completely new complement I have heard..
never been called that...
been called many other things that aren't repeatable in public though..
cool huh?..


so how cool are these Snapchat glasses?
are they Foss?
are they maemo compatible?
give me super powers?
will they blind me?
how are they powered?
I hope in an environmentally friendly way...I prefer harnessing the power of the mighty Gerbil.
...Clean
...non polluting (well they do crap a lot..but it is bio organic) ...
and affordable to run on a wheel...

what do they look like ?
these?

http://galeri.uludagsozluk.com/58/elton-john_34590.jpg

Please say they don't.

I feel like they are not really that realistic of a product...the concept behind it is okay and erm sought of cool but the prices are exaggerated! I still haven't seen anyone in real life wearing a pair but that might be because I live in a town full of not so many "young folks" :D

What's your take on them? Would you get them? :cool:

sally_sally 2017-09-27 11:23

Re: Problem with cloning OS to new SD Card.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by endsormeans (Post 1535228)
No...that is a completely new complement I have heard..
never been called that...
been called many other things that aren't repeatable in public though..
cool huh?..


so how cool are these Snapchat glasses?
are they Foss?
are they maemo compatible?
give me super powers?
will they blind me?
how are they powered?
I hope in an environmentally friendly way...I prefer harnessing the power of the mighty Gerbil.
...Clean
...non polluting (well they do crap a lot..but it is bio organic) ...
and affordable to run on a wheel...

what do they look like ?
these?

http://galeri.uludagsozluk.com/58/elton-john_34590.jpg

Please say they don't.

Take a quick look at some of the videos in here like i said before the concept behind it is really cool and the fact that you can synchronize it with your profile is quite nice. But £129.99 for ONE pair?? Like really?!:rolleyes:

pichlo 2017-09-27 12:17

Re: Problem with cloning OS to new SD Card.
 
£130 is not such an unexpected price for a gadget. They look cool and can be useful in some situations. But, although I found all sorts of details about pricing and how to buy them, even info on compatibility requirements and battery life, I could not for the life of me find the basic thing. Namely, the camera resolution and picture quality.

endsormeans 2017-09-28 06:08

Re: Problem with cloning OS to new SD Card.
 
would I get them?
no...
would I make them..
or something like them jury rigged out of toothpicks pipe-cleaners and q-tips?
most certainly...

I have no desire to "chase the (tech.) dragon" ...
for any sort of device ...
it is aimless...
a continuous loop I have no interest in following to end up...as always... exactly where I left off...
I believe in exactly what is needed to survive in this civilization ...and no more...no less...
I determined that a while ago now...

there is more than enough DIY options out there...to accomplish the same ends.
What cannot be done practically and affordably DIY...
Then investing in the barest minimum of tech needed to fulfill whatever day to day need required being the only obligation.

Others may contend that due to their work-work ...
that they cannot take such a path...
that is probably valid and true....

For myself...I aimed ...always... to make my life simpler and less cluttered with distraction and time and money consuming novelty...
It has not been easy to accomplish.. in this world nowadays.. ...

consequently I also feel I am fortunate now that I have enough free time to commit to finding alternates that can suffice ...and that do not need specific gear to accomplish what is needed in my day to day work.

pichlo 2017-09-28 07:04

Re: Problem with cloning OS to new SD Card.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by endsormeans (Post 1535373)
...I have enough free time...

You need children :p

endsormeans 2017-09-28 07:45

Re: Problem with cloning OS to new SD Card.
 
hahahahaha

Naw...
a three legged one eyed rescue puppy ..and a rescue cat that thinks he is a dog ...
are more than enough of a handful...
children would be easier to deal with...
:D

Ridd92 2018-01-11 11:38

Re: Problem with cloning OS to new SD Card.
 
Hi there again. Now I see I missed some conversation. Sorry. xP

I had a huge lage due to my work abroad. Sorry xP

The thing is, I show the problematic card a way out I bought a new one from my trusted polish producer. 5 mb/s of write seems good:

http://oi67.tinypic.com/27zyyxs.jpg

And had no problems after that. So thats it. Don't buy shitty cards = avoid problems. :)

endsormeans 2018-01-11 12:24

Re: Problem with cloning OS to new SD Card.
 
Its all good...
Yup...
Crappy cards equal crappy outcome.

If the deal on a card seems too good to be true...it usually is.
With cards...I don't bother purchasing from anywhere else than a local store ...that is reliable...and even then...I keep the receipt ...just in case ...
Too much counterfeit ...and the allowance for errors in production ...tend to mean that duds exist even in the most reliable stores...


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