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Texrat 2008-03-28 22:13

Re: The Nokia N810 - WiMAX Edition
 
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Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 161737)
So you mean the hardware upgrade is going to come sooner than that?
Well if that is true..... i am a little happier.

!

I never said that.

I am getting out of the teasing business. It doesn't pay, the hours are long, and people guess funny. :p

krisse 2008-03-28 22:19

Re: The Nokia N810 - WiMAX Edition
 
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Originally Posted by igor (Post 161718)
OMAP is no x86

I have absolutely no technical knowledge when it comes to processor models, you know these things much better than I do. :) I just meant the general push towards processors being as fast as possible isn't the whole picture, as mobile devices have size and battery considerations as well.

For example if they could make something that worked like the N810 but in an ultra-slim ultra-small package with the same size screen but no border around it, I bet that would increase sales more than a processor upgrade. Small size would have appeal even to non-technical people and casual users, and it would make the tablet far more "sexy" even if it didn't actually add any functionality.

sjgadsby 2008-03-28 22:21

Re: The Nokia N810 - WiMAX Edition
 
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Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 161721)
...which i think hints at the cpu upgrade coming with the omap3 chips.

As the General has already posted, Texrat has previously confirmed that, as much as that smirking rat ever confirms anything. Texrat has also previously made clear that the WiMAX tablet wouldn't bring any real surprises. The following tablet though, he felt would forcibly remove our stockings.

Benson 2008-03-28 22:29

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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 161717)
If CPUs only got more powerful at the cost of power usage, then we'd need small nuclear reactors to run modern machines at the power efficiencies of 70s "PCs". :p

You mean like this (and following)?

igor 2008-03-28 22:30

Re: The Nokia N810 - WiMAX Edition
 
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Originally Posted by krisse (Post 161746)
I have absolutely no technical knowledge when it comes to processor models, you know these things much better than I do. :) I just meant the general push towards processors being as fast as possible isn't the whole picture, as mobile devices have size and battery considerations as well.

That's not generally true. What i meant saying that OMAP is no x86 is that Intel has generated this false idea that running a processor at high frequency _has_ to turn it into a small stove. Of course there are heat problems, but certain architectures are much better suited than others to deal with them. OMAP3 for example is highly partitioned and provides a good granularity for switching off or at least keeping in clock stop mode those modules that are not actively used.

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Originally Posted by krisse (Post 161746)
For example if they could make something that worked like the N810 but in an ultra-slim ultra-small package with the same size screen but no border around it, I bet that would increase sales more than a processor upgrade. Small size would have appeal even to non-technical people and casual users, and it would make the tablet far more "sexy" even if it didn't actually add any functionality.

Well, unless olographic displays or head-mounted displays become common, a large screen is still necessary to comfortably browse the net. Same goes for the keyboard. It can be done, but then the definition of internet tablet would hardly apply.

krisse 2008-03-28 22:36

Re: The Nokia N810 - WiMAX Edition
 
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Originally Posted by igor (Post 161750)
That's not generally true. What i meant saying that OMAP is no x86 is that Intel has generated this false idea that running a processor at high frequency _has_ to turn it into a small stove.

All I meant was that higher processor speeds mean more power consumption. If you can slow the processor down, the battery will last longer, which is how some mobile phones manage to save a lot of power.

I wasn't trying to start a serious debate as I'm really not qualified to discuss processors, I was just trying to raise the points about battery life and physical size being just as important as speed and perhaps more so.


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a large screen is still necessary to comfortably browse the net.
Absolutely, but the border around the screen is not needed, and neither is the thickness behind it.

Texrat 2008-03-28 22:40

Re: The Nokia N810 - WiMAX Edition
 
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 161747)
The following tablet though, he felt would forcibly remove our stockings.

Indeed. I recommend not wearing any.

sachin007 2008-03-28 22:41

Re: The Nokia N810 - WiMAX Edition
 
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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 161763)
Indeed. I recommend not wearing any.

When? is the question. But dont bother i know you cant answer that.

Benson 2008-03-28 22:42

Re: The Nokia N810 - WiMAX Edition
 
Some border around the screen is necessary, as I don't want my screen being broken. Bezels FTW!

salomc 2008-03-28 22:53

Re: The Nokia N810 - WiMAX Edition
 
I think everybody already knows it, but I found this in the description of OMAP3:

Software-compatible with OMAP™ 2 processors

Does it mean the transition to the next generarion tablet is gonna be a lot easier than N770 - N8xx?


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