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sicofante 2012-04-09 06:42

App or hack for easier call answering?
 
I find the method for answering a call cumbersome.

I don't quite understand what's swipe doing here. Why is it needed at all? Why doesn't the phone show the green and red buttons to accept or reject a call and that's it?

Anyway, is there an app out there to make it easier and faster to answer calls? Can it be made or is this "forbidden territory" needing some sort of deeper tweaking on the phone's firmware?

Thanks.

isfr21 2012-04-09 07:39

Re: App or hack for easier call answering?
 
If anything it should be what I had suggested previously as an enhancement request (which you can vote for by clicking link in my signature).

Swipe up to answer (bottom of screen-green bar bouncing upward saying "Swipe up to answer")
Swipe down to reject (red bar top of screen bouncing downward saying "Swipe down to reject")

lifeintheblitz 2012-04-09 07:57

Re: App or hack for easier call answering?
 
The swipe is required it was meant to prevent accidental touches to the screen while your phone is in your pocket. I've experimented with my phone in the pocket, without the screen active and tried walking. The cloth that makes up the pocket is not thick enough to prevent the screen from recognizing the "touches" your thigh (sounds silly, but true) makes when it comes into contact with your pocket and your phone. In short, when you walk, or probably do anything that involves you moving your legs, the N9's screen will be very very prone to accidental touches, even in your pocket. Go ahead. Try it. See if it doesn't magically bring up your Feed app, or Twitter app, or Facebook app.

Wow. I get that we all have different opinions, and nothing is perfect, but if swiping the screen before answering a call is already classified as cumbersome, then I'll do this: *facepalm*

sicofante 2012-04-09 08:09

Re: App or hack for easier call answering?
 
I'm using an E52 at the moment. I have it configured so that any key answers the phone. Why? Two use cases to illustrate:

I'm at home and the phone is not in my pocket, but on the table. I'm not near the table. I'm even on another room. The phone rings and I run to the room where it is, reach the table and just before picking up the phone I just push the keyboard, any key. When the phone gets to my ear, the call is connected and the caller ready to listen. Previously I had to pick up the phone and look for the green key. Time enough to miss calls (and you bet they were missed).

I'm in the car, the phone rings: I can't look closely at the phone looking for the green key. I just push the keyboard, any key, and the call is answered. Previously, I might push the wrong key easily (sure, the E52 has crammed a lot of keys on its keyboard).

Facepalm all what you want, but put an N9 in those scenarios and you'll see answering calls would be even slower than the regular mode on an E52.

sicofante 2012-04-09 08:29

Re: App or hack for easier call answering?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by isfr21 (Post 1189960)
If anything it should be what I had suggested previously as an enhancement request (which you can vote for by clicking link in my signature).

Swipe up to answer (bottom of screen-green bar bouncing upward saying "Swipe up to answer")
Swipe down to reject (red bar top of screen bouncing downward saying "Swipe down to reject")

Your proposal seems sensible to me. I just voted and commented. Not very confident someone will read the closed bugzilla though... :-(

There's a comment suggesting just putting the phone close to your ear to answer the call. That's clever, but maybe the proximity sensor won't be able to tell my cheek from my leg (when the phone is in the pocket)?

I'd still love to know if this could be re-programmed by an independent developer or is it beyond that? Any other forum to ask developers about this?

smcsa 2012-04-09 08:33

Re: App or hack for easier call answering?
 
And, FYI, you can swipe also on the other 3 directions: from left / right / up

smcsa 2012-04-09 08:36

Re: App or hack for easier call answering?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sicofante (Post 1189969)
(when the phone is in the pocket)?

Yes, this is a workaround: when call is coming, the proximity sensor say if the phone act regular (need swipe) or just put the answer screen.

F2thaK 2012-04-09 10:34

Re: App or hack for easier call answering?
 
I think something needs to be done, but obviously make it configurable.

MINKIN2 2012-04-09 11:43

Re: App or hack for easier call answering?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lifeintheblitz (Post 1189962)
The swipe is required it was meant to prevent accidental touches to the screen while your phone is in your pocket. I've experimented with my phone in the pocket, without the screen active and tried walking. The cloth that makes up the pocket is not thick enough to prevent the screen from recognizing the "touches" your thigh (sounds silly, but true) makes when it comes into contact with your pocket and your phone. In short, when you walk, or probably do anything that involves you moving your legs, the N9's screen will be very very prone to accidental touches, even in your pocket. Go ahead. Try it. See if it doesn't magically bring up your Feed app, or Twitter app, or Facebook app.
*

I see what the op is asking for here, it would be no different to the n900s incoming call screen no? We don't really have any issues with unwanted screen presses in the pocket as the proximity sensor would not allow the screen to become active preventing any actions occurring.

So I would have to ask if there was something in the call screen code that is overriding the proximity sensor to wake the screen upon an incoming call?

sicofante 2012-04-09 14:32

Re: App or hack for easier call answering?
 
We definitely need some devs in this thread. :-)

lifeintheblitz 2012-04-09 14:38

Re: App or hack for easier call answering?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sicofante (Post 1189964)
Facepalm all what you want, but put an N9 in those scenarios and you'll see answering calls would be even slower than the regular mode on an E52.

Doesn't change the fact that touch screen is more sensitive than real hardware buttons. Anyway, good luck with that. <3 <3 <3

pablocrossa 2012-04-09 14:48

Re: App or hack for easier call answering?
 
Maybe this can be done with a simple daemon or editing the call deamon script (if such a thing exists, I am only an N900 owner ;) )

If a call ringing
If screen locked
If proximity sensor is not close to something
dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=com.nokia.mce /com/nokia/mce/request com.nokia.mce.request.req_tklock_mode_change string:unlocked
SOMEVARIABLE="yes"

When the call is over
if $SOMEVARIABLE = "yes"
dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=com.nokia.mce /com/nokia/mce/request com.nokia.mce.request.req_tklock_mode_change string:locked
SOMEVARIABLE=NO

Maybe someone should research what daemon triggers when calls income, I do not have an N9 and therefore do not have much interest, these instructions are for the N900 anyways, but just my 2 cents :D

sicofante 2012-04-09 15:18

Re: App or hack for easier call answering?
 
Is there a place to ask Nokia for things like this? Since bugzilla is closed, I wouldn't know where to go.

Tetlee 2012-04-12 16:53

Re: App or hack for easier call answering?
 
I too would love the option of swype to answer, I do find it slightly counter intuitive having to swype then hit the very small answer icon.

I can see the reasons it would need to be an optional choice rather than a complete change, those that use their N9's without a case and carried in pockets etc. being the obvious. But for folks such as myself that use a folding case to protect our N9's, there is really no need for the current swype then seperate answer method, swype only would be sufficient.

sicofante 2012-04-12 17:18

Re: App or hack for easier call answering?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tetlee (Post 1191262)
it would need to be an optional choice rather than a complete change, those that use their N9's without a case and carried in pockets etc. being the obvious.

I'm sorry but I don't quite get that. I understand the phone in a pocket can be woken up by an accidental double tap (hard, but possible), but how on earth is an accidental rub of the phone against your leg (most of the time through some cloth) going to produce a swipe? When you take the phone out of the pocket to answer? Great, you won't have to do anything then, just put it in your ear! ;-) OK, let's just make it optional, like "any keyboard answers a call" is optional in most Nokia T9 phones (like my E52). I also pick up some calls when grabbing the phone in my pocket and I push any key accidentally, but I can live with the few times it happens.

BTW: Most women put the phone in their bags. It's mostly men who use their trousers pockets to carry the phone. Just saying...

Swipe-up to answer just seems obvious.
Swipe-anywhere but down to answer is debatable (and might be optional).
Swipe-down to reject or silence should be configurable.

What is pretty obvious is that the current behavior makes little sense and I'm really surprised almost no review has highlighted it.

Since no developers seem to be around, is there any developers/modders forums where this could be asked and debated?

Tetlee 2012-04-12 19:07

Re: App or hack for easier call answering?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sicofante (Post 1191274)
I'm sorry but I don't quite get that. I understand the phone in a pocket can be woken up by an accidental double tap (hard, but possible), but how on earth is an accidental rub of the phone against your leg (most of the time through some cloth) going to produce a swipe? When you take the phone out of the pocket to answer? Great, you won't have to do anything then, just put it in your ear! ;-)

It would be possible I should think as you obviously don't need a double tap when there's an incoming call, so if it was swype only to answer, those that keep their phones in their pockets could activate the swype while removing the phone.

Problem easily solved if you have the possibility for the current swype then answer, or option of swype only to answer which would doubtless suit most users better than the current method.

sicofante 2012-04-12 20:02

Re: App or hack for easier call answering?
 
Accidentally swiping while taking the phone out of your pocket sounds like an edge case to me (the same that happens with the "any key answers" on the E52), but yeah, it should just be an option.

guillermorojaz 2012-04-14 04:05

Re: App or hack for easier call answering?
 
Sounds good the way it is currently. Just maybe red and green buttons larger.

dumpystig 2012-04-14 09:15

Re: App or hack for easier call answering?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by guillermorojaz (Post 1191902)
Sounds good the way it is currently. Just maybe red and green buttons larger.

Yeah, that would be good for me too...

Is it possible to make both buttons larger - i.e. twice the height?

guillermorojaz 2012-04-14 18:00

Re: App or hack for easier call answering?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dumpystig (Post 1191958)
Yeah, that would be good for me too...

Is it possible to make both buttons larger - i.e. twice the height?

YES.
It should be easy, which are already developing modifications:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80600

Q. Enlarge Caller ID Avatar

It could work in this option.


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