Nokia with Sailfish
 

It's confirmed by now that Nokia is comming backat about the end of this year, apparently with Android powered phones, so far.
Anyone heard anything else? I really think that continuing with MeeGo (or rather licencing Sailfish) would be a total hit for both companies.

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For both companies? No, my friend. Much as I like Maemo and can tolerate MeeGo and Sailfish, let's get back to the ground and see it from the business perspective, shall we?

Projected number of sold units with Androud: ~5-10 million
Projected number of sold units with Sailfish: ~5-10 thousand (being generous here)

It seems like a no-brainer to me.

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No it wouldn't. why would it?

But a good start would be to remove Jolla leadership.

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That's right. BUT. The market is a little bit overwhelmed with plain touch phones. Whatever you buy it's either i or a, and both are quite the same, nevertheless who produces them (so will the Nokias be all the same). Sorry, I don't know how else to put this.
And Nokia did tend to be different, before, at it's "golden" age.

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I could firmly aggree with the latter.

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Let me guess. Your first language is not English (Hungarian by any chance, judging purely by your nick?). In that case I think you put it perfectly.

Yes but the Nokia of those days no longer exists. The times no longer exist. It is easy to be an innovator and market leader at the infancy of a new technology. By now, however, all the low hanging fruit has been picked. We have been through all the fancy designs and settled on just a few winners. It's the same with every evolution, whether biological or business.

There was the Cambrian explosion of life, when nature created a lot of new body designs, including some strange ones with five eyes etc. In the absence of anything else, these may even have had a chance for a while. But natural selection soon weeded them out and settled on a small subset of winning designs.

The 1980s and 1990s were the mobile phone equivalent of the Cambrian explosion. But most designs, whether hardware OR software, have turned out to be evolutionary dead ends. The world has settled on just one hardware design, a boring rectangular slab with a glass front, and just two software designs. Anything else is destined to remain at the fringe, eking its meager life from the scraps left over by the giants.

This is not to say that it will stay like that forever. There was a time when reptiles ruled the world. If you were not a reptile, you might as well not have existed at all. The few mammals who existed at the time were small and miserable. Then something happened and suddenly the dominant life form are the miserable mammals.

Will the same happen with mobile technology? Definitely. The very success of the winning design will become its downfall. There is so little variation that the same event that kills one of them will kill them all. Just like the advent of a slab with a glass front knelled the demise of the candybar design.

Is Sailfish such a death knell for Android and iOS? Definitely not. Not nearly revolutionary enough. What is? I have no idea.

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I am sorry to have to state this again, but it is a recurring mistake that people for some reason make again and again!

Nokia is not going to make any smartphones.
Not in 2017, not ever. Nada. Just live with it.

There is a small (and insignificant IMHO) startup company called HMD Global or something like that, which has licensed the name "Nokia" and is going to come out with few Android devices but that does not mean NOKIA is going to make phones.

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That's how I understood the recent media-reports (My mayor source german heise.de).

I was already wondering about the first post.
Nevertheless: pishta74 do you have a source for this news?

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Yet, Nokia will be observing the production to ensure that HMD produces its devices within Nokias standards, so people can expect the "Nokia-Quality" they expect from this brand.
So, Chinese phones which will look and feel like Nokia devices.
Most people won't even notice the difference,...apart from the lack of "great ideas" and "new approaches" etc...and...Maemo/MeeGo.

Does mean we'll never get an N900 successor. *sad*

But yeah, Nokia smartphones will probably will be "more of the same" in the android sphere...

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Just like they've always been. Android sphere now, Symbian sphere before, what's the difference?