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AapoRantalainen 2011-04-20 18:48

[Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Hello, new mypaint-0.9.1-maemo2 is now on extras-devel.

First There are reasons why it is on extras-devel!
*Drawing is not working very well with pressure maps from mypaint-0.8.2. When starting new stroke it is attached to the end of the latest stroke. This can be avoided if stylus is used very gently. This is part I need help.
*Upgrading can break your own brush/settings/scraps.

Second: Working mypaint-0.8.2 is on extras, so downgrading is possible.

It is installable (optified) and it starts. It is not spawning error messages and seems it does what is expected (instead of that pressure thing). It contains Tone's brush kit.

It doesn't have any hildonization (should it have, what you think?). I do not know is this faster or better than mypaint-0.8.2, hope so.

**
And source is here: https://gitorious.org/~aaporantalain...aint-for-maemo

xman 2011-04-20 19:29

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Great progress! Thanks!!

1) Is this the default pressure maps or the one tone made?

2) I don't really use the hildon menu, but if it's not much work I would say to keep it in for noobs. Though now there are simpler drawing app that one could use may be less intimidating.

How can we help? Are you looking for ppl to just install and report back or someone like tone who has been deeper in the guts of mypaint than most of us users?

X

stickymick 2011-04-20 19:57

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Just gonna try this out.

Do we need to uninstall the older version prior to installation of this new version?

stickymick 2011-04-20 20:38

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
0.9.1-maemo2 is still not working for me.

Reverting back to 0.8.2. for the time being.

Scratch that idea also :(
Can't even find 0.8.2 now, only half the files in the catalogues are being displayed.

WTF is going on? My 900's gone round the tank tonight. :confused:

Mentalist Traceur 2011-04-20 21:55

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
I would prefer a hildonized menu, more or less because while it is usable without it, it would bug me if it suddenly became okay for developers to not hildonize N900 programs.

On the other hand, right now it's usable in both portrait and landscape, even non-hildonized, which is "good enough" for usability.

As for the noobs comment, hildonization isn't about newbness, it's about being able to use a program without needing precision poking-the-screen skills.

Oh, I can't get mypaint to run from menu either, but launching it from the command-line works. (Just type "mypaint" in X-Term. I recommend not doing it as root, as usually that just messes up future usability.)

The first time it runs in X-Term it'll say a lot about removing old brushes, and then about updating brushes with upstream sources. Don't freak out, I think this is supposed to happen.

shaddam 2011-04-20 22:02

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stickymick (Post 992795)
0.9.1-maemo2 is still not working for me.

Reverting back to 0.8.2. for the time being.

Scratch that idea also :(
Can't even find 0.8.2 now, only half the files in the catalogues are being displayed.

WTF is going on? My 900's gone round the tank tonight. :confused:

think its been deleted "management cleaning" on the repo's unless anyone can upload the .deb file?

gav

XiliX 2011-04-20 22:20

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
It only works when i start it from the x-terminal. for me..

shaddam 2011-04-20 22:30

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XiliX (Post 992869)
It only works when i start it from the x-terminal. for me..

confirmed

gav

Creativetone 2011-04-20 23:57

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Ok!

I have now installed 0.9.1-maemo2

Let's see..

++ Speed improvement is quite huge!

++ Zooming and Mirroring canvas works very well, very crisp picture quality (no more blurry picture) I like a lot :)

+ Sub windows are very nice.. I can now select colors and adjust layer opacity with slider and I even see what happen in realtime :D good.

++ Very fast rotozoom, good feature (only need a change keymapping)

- X-term launch :(

EDIT: I can't edit "deep" brush settings = those fancy envelopes :(

Thanks for everybody, thank you very much Aapo!

Radicalz38 2011-04-21 00:38

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
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Hi! Anybody wanna try test this desktop shortcut if it fixes the problem with launching from menu? Just paste it on /usr/share/applications/hildon/ just overwrite the non working one.(I guess there's no need to backup original one since it's not working)

Bratag 2011-04-21 02:29

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Radicalz38 (Post 992928)
Hi! Anybody wanna try test this desktop shortcut if it fixes the problem with launching from menu? Just paste it on /usr/share/applications/hildon/ just overwrite the non working one.(I guess there's no need to backup original one since it's not working)

No Joy here.

Radicalz38 2011-04-21 03:01

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Sorry bout that... Gonna download later and try to fix it(if AapoRantalainen haven't fixed it yet by that time)

pedrocoba 2011-04-21 03:31

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Hi all
I was just wondering, why after I installed the devel mypaint mypaint not work, every time I open mypaint always return to the home?? :(
Can anyone help me??
I really appreciate it. thx

stickymick 2011-04-21 03:35

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Just to confirm, it does run from x-term. A bit messy this way, but it looks damn geeky :p

Also noticed a big speed improvement overall. Gonna try all the brushes that used to hang the app, see if there's any improvement there.

stickymick 2011-04-21 03:40

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pedrocoba (Post 992976)
Hi all
I was just wondering, why after I installed the devel mypaint mypaint not work, every time I open mypaint always return to the home?? :(
Can anyone help me??
I really appreciate it. thx

You have to it from x-term at the moment.

Start x-term then jusj type mypaint and hit enter. should then start.

pedrocoba 2011-04-21 03:58

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stickymick (Post 992978)
You have to it from x-term at the moment.

Start x-term then jusj type mypaint and hit enter. should then start.

I get directly from the devel.
Can you give me the full way? Sorry I'm newbie

Bratag 2011-04-21 05:04

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pedrocoba (Post 992985)
I get directly from the devel.
Can you give me the full way? Sorry I'm newbie

open up an xterm. type mypaint. hit enter.

xman 2011-04-21 05:06

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
I agree with you for the most part. I wasn't trying to say hildon is for beginners, I used it all the time at first then as I got more experience with mypaint I started using the keyboard commands more. So using the gtk menu was the easiest way I knew at first. Now I feel cripped or have to go throw too many set to get to function under hildon.

I definatly don't want or need 99% of apps without it being hildonized. I like not having to using my pen form most stuff.

Hey I'm still a noobi in lots of ways, so no dissing noobs from me.. :D

X

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur (Post 992851)
As for the noobs comment, hildonization isn't about newbness, it's about being able to use a program without needing precision poking-the-screen skills.


anders_gud 2011-04-21 05:21

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AapoRantalainen (Post 992733)
When starting new stroke it is attached to the end of the latest stroke. This can be avoided if stylus is used very gently. This is part I need help.

Hi Aapo! I used this patch on 0.8.2 to get rid of ghost lines:
http://gitorious.org/mypaint/mypaint...a842a25904a6fd

AapoRantalainen 2011-04-21 06:18

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Thanks all for comments.

Quote:

Originally Posted by anders_gud (Post 993013)
I used this patch on 0.8.2 to get rid of ghost lines:
http://gitorious.org/mypaint/mypaint...a842a25904a6fd

It seems this is similar than default 0.9.1.

I copied gui/tileddrawwidget.py from 0.8.2 and it worked, then I bisected the broking rows: https://gitorious.org/~aaporantalain...be3f6f50e3b620

-> 0.9.1-maemo3.

I think next big issue is starting from menu.

Addison 2011-04-21 07:27

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
When you get a final build that you're completely happy with, do you think it's possible to port this to Diablo as well?

AapoRantalainen 2011-04-21 07:29

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Menu launcher works: mypaint:0.9.1-maemo4

**
It is possible upgrade from mypaint.0.8 (or .0.9).
It is possible to install mypaint0.9 to fresh phone.
(If you encounter issue, make report).
**
When starting from menu launcher. After clicking it loads about 7 seconds, then it disappears and desktop is shown for another 7 seconds and then MyPaint starts.
(Starting might be faster if you delete some brushes, who wants test?)
**

I think MyPaint is primarily used with stylus, not finger. So I'm not sure is there more harm than benefits to hildonize menus (there are so many entries that they do not easily fit).

Radicalz38 2011-04-21 07:31

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
@Addison did you try installing it at diablo with dpkg? I think I have read months ago that someone have made that possible by mistake :D

Radicalz38 2011-04-21 07:35

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
rofl! 4 times I downloaded mypaint for today :D thanks AapoRantalainen for the constant updates!

Addison 2011-04-21 08:01

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Radicalz38 (Post 993054)
@Addison did you try installing it at diablo with dpkg? I think I have read months ago that someone have made that possible by mistake :D

I only have version 0.5.1 that was available for download from the App Manager on my N800.

Creativetone 2011-04-21 09:01

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Thanks, Aapo!
mypaint:0.9.1-maemo4, works.

Now, I only miss those advanced brush editing windows.. they do not show up :(

Radicalz38 2011-04-21 11:50

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Hi Addison try downloading this and dpkg it
http://repository.maemo.org/extras-d...emo4_armel.deb

Lemonadium 2011-04-21 12:16

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Thanks for upgrade!
I think that non-hildonized menus fit to MyPaint really well, because i tend to use it with stylus/pen.
In 0.9.1-maemo4 everything works, but shortcuts need tweaking.

Deleting brushes didn't make any difference in startup time.

Acidspunk 2011-04-21 12:26

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
this new version seems a lot more responsive! thank you Aapo. How can I get the menu to disappear to get more canvas space?

stickymick 2011-04-21 12:33

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Just been mucking around with the latest offering.
Much faster and I do like the menu system. Hildonized menus take up too much screen real estate.

Any chance of being able to increase or decrease the number of "Undos" available?

One other thing. How do you get out of full-screen mode when you haven't got an F11 key?

Or is there a file we can edit?

xman 2011-04-21 13:10

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
used to be "shift - f". But not sure if Aapo changed the cmd key. I haven't had time to install and play with it yet..:(.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acidspunk (Post 993171)
this new version seems a lot more responsive! thank you Aapo. How can I get the menu to disappear to get more canvas space?


Try /home/user/.mypaint/accelmap.conf Just search for fullscreen and change what in " " to what ever you like.

cheers

X

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickymick (Post 993176)
One other thing. How do you get out of full-screen mode when you haven't got an F11 key?

Or is there a file we can edit?


Radicalz38 2011-04-21 14:37

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
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Anybody have a workaround for this? :confused:
I hope we get the option to create our own shortcut keys.. But with that we have no mouse and we cant scroll down :confused:

ArnimS 2011-04-21 19:39

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
thanks for working on this! keep it up!

evan 2011-04-21 19:58

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xman (Post 993198)
Try /home/user/.mypaint/accelmap.conf Just search for fullscreen and change what in " " to what ever you like.

I change this but does not have any effect and when I quit mypaint I check and the value has been reverted to F11 by itself.

Bratag 2011-04-21 20:31

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by evan (Post 993397)
I change this but does not have any effect and when I quit mypaint I check and the value has been reverted to F11 by itself.

I set ctrl+button 1 in the settings to menu. That way I can hit cntrl and click the screen and a little menu pops up and I can do everything from there.

xman 2011-04-21 23:27

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Hmm, after I install it and tried to change the shortcut it would seem that they work a little different now.

Mypaint writes over all accelmap.conf changes. The only changes that are kept are the ones that are made while in mypaint ... :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by evan (Post 993397)
I change this but does not have any effect and when I quit mypaint I check and the value has been reverted to F11 by itself.

I been searching for the right files, but can't seem to find anything solid.

Was looking at:
home/opt/mypaint/share/mypaint/gui/keyboard.py
/home/opt/mypaint/share/mypaint/gui/drawwindow.py looks promising start @ line 101 for me.

Edit: Look like the drawwindow.py file does in fact keep the settings. However not all the menus are in here, so for now I will change as many of mine to the old shortcut and see what happens. Now I'm not sure if this is correct or not, so just keep that in mine if you try it.

found this in:
/home/opt/mypaint/share/mypaint/gui/main.py

Quote:

# Recent gtk versions don't allow changing those menu shortcuts by
# default. <rant>Sigh. This very useful feature used to be the
# default behaviour even in the GIMP some time ago. I guess
# assigning a keyboard shortcut without a complicated dialog
# clicking marathon must have totally upset the people coming from
# windows.</rant>.

Addison 2011-04-22 04:12

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Radicalz38 (Post 993159)
Hi Addison try downloading this and dpkg it
http://repository.maemo.org/extras-d...emo4_armel.deb

Whoa. A 33.5 meg .deb?

Intense. *lol*

I'm not sure if I even have the free space for this on my N800.

Is there any chance I can somehow symlink this from my memory card?

Radicalz38 2011-04-22 04:43

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Your memory card is vfat or ext*?

Addison 2011-04-22 05:08

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
^ Fat32 I'm pretty sure. :)

Lemonadium 2011-04-22 07:27

Re: [Announcement] MyPaint-0.9.1 for N900 (extras-devel)
 
Today i made a tour at help menu and found out that you can change keyboard shortcuts by holding cursor over menu item and pressing desired key. So no need to edit drawwindow.py


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