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Malakai 2014-10-26 20:06

[SOLVED] Modest cannot receive/send via SSL/TLS
 
Hello,

I'm having trouble to send & receive mails with modest on my N900 since a few days.

When I hit the send & receive button, nothing happens and the mails are not updated. I removed everything in the folder /home/user/.modest/cache/mail/imap/ (it was somewhere in the forum as a solution to this) but it didn't work. I've seen here in the forum users complaining about modest not running correctly with a big inbox, but I don't think I have that much mails as they are separated in folders by the server (filtered based on the sender). I have maybe about 1000 mails in 3 inbox.

I don't know how to debug this further, as I really need mails while on the go.

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For the fix see :

CSSU posted by foobar
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...6&postcount=37

non-CSSU posted by peterleinchen (all credits to foobar)
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=44

Malakai 2014-10-27 19:55

Re: Modest send & receive problem
 
I really liked the simplicity of Modest, so I would like to continue using it, but right know I really need access to my mails on the go, so if somebody doesn't know how to fix this but knows a good mail client for the n900 that is in the repos and is easy to use (no command line, weird or small interface), it will do until the problem will be fixed.

Thanks.

peterleinchen 2014-10-27 19:57

Re: Modest send & receive problem
 
A bit more information would be nice!

Which mail provider (in the first place)? Is it 't-online.de'?
Is that the only account?
Since when?
IMAP/POP/MfE?
Port numbers?
and so on

Malakai 2014-10-27 20:10

Re: Modest send & receive problem
 
Sorry, I should have given more informations.

It is a web hosting provider that gives me also access to mails (Thunderbird on my PC has no problem with the mails in this right moment).

I have 3 accounts in the form adress1@domain.net, adress2@domain.net, adress3@domain.net, so all for the same domain.

It is not working since the 22 October 2014 so a couple of days ago.

IMAPS for the 3 accounts, so the port 993 is used.

No modifications were brought to the settings for at least 6 months and everything worked perfectly until a few days.

When this occurred I was in another country than my own and I was connected through OpenVPN to my home router with the traffic being redirected. I firstly thought that it wasn't updating the mails because of a bad connection but once back home and without the OpenVPN client active the updated didn't work either.

I can't really understand what happened and I don't really know how to debug this.

peterleinchen 2014-10-27 20:27

Re: Modest send & receive problem
 
Then it may be that your provider has closed SSL support, too.

This is what T-ONLINE.de did. On 23/24th October.
My modest does not receive mails anymore from that provider. All other working fine. Same account on N9 (and PC) works.
We need to use TLS, instead of SSL (poodle security breach).

peterleinchen 2014-10-27 20:30

Re: Modest send & receive problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1444637)
We need to use TLS, instead of SSL (poodle security breach).

And here comes my question to all!
What does the setting in modest "Normal (TLS)" really mean?
Is modest able to handle only TLS?
Even with that setting I cannot get it working. But it should.

pierrem 2014-10-27 20:40

Re: Modest send & receive problem
 
We tested this recently on #maemo-ssu and it seems that "Normal(TLS)" is the equivalent of STARTTLS, meaning forcing a TLS connection on port 143 rather that talking to an imap4s server on port 993 and then checking if TLS is supported by the server.

Malakai 2014-10-27 20:48

Re: Modest send & receive problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1444637)
Then it may be that your provider has closed SSL support, too.

This is what T-ONLINE.de did.
My modest does not receive mails anymore from that provider. All other working fine. Same account on N9 (and PC) works.
We need to use TLS, instead of SSL (poodle security breach).

That is weird because Thunderbird connects on port 993 so I don't think that the provider did something.

peterleinchen 2014-10-27 20:50

Re: Modest send & receive problem
 
That is what I would have expected.
But for a TLS connection to secureimap.t-online.de:993 this is not working, hence my question! :(
t-online.de uses now TLS only on port 993

Quote:

Originally Posted by pierrem (Post 1444643)
We tested this recently on #maemo-ssu and it seems that "Normal(TLS)" is the equivalent of STARTTLS, meaning forcing a TLS connection on port 143 rather that talking to an imap4s server on port 993 and then checking if TLS is supported by the server.

http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/%2...10-23T23:25:28
to
http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-ssu-irclog/%2...-10-24T01:16:0
This I can confirm now.
So that means no emails from t-online.de as they have open TLS connection only on port 993 but modest only allows TLS for port 143! :(
Any chance for a change in (ccsu-devel) tinymail?

I tried to debug it with
export CAMEL_DEBUG=all
maemo-summoner usr/bin/modest.launch -s
to no avail. Could not see the connection requests...

peterleinchen 2014-10-27 20:53

Re: Modest send & receive problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Malakai (Post 1444645)
That is weird because Thunderbird connects on port 993 so I don't think that the provider did something.

A port is just a port.
Thunderbird will try TLS after SSL failed.

All newer clients will do so. Even fenix on N9 does so and is still working.

You should visit your provider help forum or support and ask there.


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