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chemist 2014-06-13 14:18

[Announcement] Coding Competition Preparations
 
Hey,

for a while now we (as in HiFo + MCe.V. + Council + other community members, reading we as "not one only") are discussing coding competition possibilities.

We are looking forward to Categories for Neo900, N9 and Jolla (maybe N900 to at some point).

For this we need your help, we need ideas for A subcategories and B prizes/donations/sponsors.

For prizes I was hoping for the community to donate their unused devices to HiFo/Maemo Community e.V. (I or we thought it might be a good idea to have the legal entities take care of such stuff as this way no device or donated funds will get through private hands at any point) to put them up as devel loaner or as direct prizes (that is up to the donator). I know from some community members that they were looking into donating devices to (random) people in need for one. With the competition, only developers actually doing something would get devices.

What are your ideas for subcategories and what do you think about the donating/funding/sponsoring by community members?

Regards
chem|st

Disclaimer: Neither HiFo nor MCe.V. (this includes MCCouncil) will pick winners at any point. Jury is going to be the community if not stated otherwise (there might be companies involved in the future whom might choose to have another audience for their category, we never know and cannot dictate it).

nieldk 2014-06-13 15:04

Re: [Announcement] Coding Competition Preparations
 
well - what I want most is to completely free N9xx from all Nokia propriatary code, update kernel to 3.x series probably target #1.

But, most important, whichever is decided, I will as said in other threads, donate two devices:

1 N9
1 N900

For committment and distribution. This is now in the good hands of HiFo/Maemo Community e.V. :)

joerg_rw 2014-06-13 15:52

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you're aware that coding competitions are (despite Nieldk insinuating otherwise above) a council domain, and recent council is more than just at end of its term? Who's going to follow up on this competition thing in 2 weeks when extended nomination period ended?

/j (leaving councilor)

kojacker 2014-06-13 16:09

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It's great to see another coding competition on the way! For category ideas have a look at the previous ones and you won't be too far away :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by joerg_rw (Post 1429490)
you're aware that coding competitions are (despite Nieldk insinuating otherwise above) a council domain, and recent council is more than just at end of its term? Who's going to follow up on this competition thing in 2 weeks when extended nomination period ended?

/j (leaving councilor)

It's a good point, though I'd submit that the original coding competition was basically ran without council and could be again. For the follow up competitions, council's help was huge in terms of organizing voting and liaising with Nokia etc, and very appreciated, but in the first it was zehjotkah and myself setting up voting threads and looking after donations, working directly with Nokia just as a couple of basic members. And the community all pitched in with their ideas and support in all kinds of ways to help it cross the finish line.

So right - stable council would be great to run the competition, but there's no need to panic if council isn't sorted out - never underestimate the will power and determination of maemo.org community members to work together for a good cause and see things out :D

(joerg - not that you are underestimating, just saying in reply.. :) )

joerg_rw 2014-06-13 16:28

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@kojacker:
sure, you're absolutely right and of course any random group of people is allowed to start a coding competition. Nothing wrong with that. Just from chem|st's OP it sounded like he referred to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council#Council_work council domain of duties, and later on that turned somehow into sth like HiFo was the responsible entity. I just felt like sorting this out a bit.
The question stands: who is finally in charge to run this coding competition? It cna't be council obviously since current council is a lame duck.

nieldk 2014-06-13 16:28

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whatever

I dont care how or by whom this is initiated. But if someone WANTS to prevent this from happening, well spit your juices.
There is to my knowledge anything that can prevent HiFo, council or vasic members from starting a competition individually. So, my offer stands! Even if I end up deciding "winners" myself,

nokiabot 2014-06-13 16:36

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creating a seperate commite for this coding competion can be way to go the commite can collect devices funds ideas working directly with community decisions .

just throwing some ideas:)

joerg_rw 2014-06-13 16:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1429500)
whatever

I dont care how or by whom this is initiated. But if someone WANTS to prevent this from happening, well spit your juices.
There is to my knowledge anything that can prevent HiFo, council or vasic members from starting a competition individually. So, my offer stands! Even if I end up deciding "winners" myself,

Who do you see around who wants to prevent such coding competition? :eek:
I just asked who the heck will follow up and actually make it happen - since I'm interested it will not die halfway through from nobody feeling responsible.

you know, just like "SOMEBODY should clean up this room..." <everybody turns around and leaves, whistling>
Seen this at least for last 24 months in maemo, but actually during my whole life: assign a task to somebody, or it won't get done.

nieldk 2014-06-13 16:38

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@Dave999 no, Iam saying I will follow whichever declared competition here.
IF {that fails to happen; Make my own decision: Follow another competition} ;

chemist 2014-06-14 11:54

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From the looks of it, NielDK, juiceme and myself will have a hand in this. It does not matter if we are council or not, we are part of this community and also in positions where we can officially support a competition by whomever initiated. I started it and will be with it to the end, I brought that topic up several times in the last year but noone seemed to be interested much from the people "in charge" so who should start a competition if no council no board is doing something to start it? Yes a bunch of community members - as happen to be I brought the idea to nieldk's attention and he liked the idea and offered a second device right away. As a matter of fact the 3 people mentioned are the current Board Elected of the ready to be registered at court Maemo Community e.V.


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