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-   -   [sandbox] making important news visible (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=41013)

noobmonkey 2010-01-17 11:31
[sandbox] making important news visible
 
Brainstorm link - http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/making_important_news_visible/?solution=important_news_talk_forum

Description of Problem:
In the last few months there have been quite alot of key threads and quick news on the Talk pages... within days there are normally 10-20 extras posts of people not realising, for example the servers are down, or the upgrade is out etc....


Why :
So i have created this brainstorm in the hope that a simple solution for all can be had :) - this will help the moderators and users trying to help, and also other users trying to find information. It will also help centralise some discussions.


I have added a few brainstorm solutions- please add more if you feel there is a decent solution.

joppu 2010-01-17 12:01
Re: [sandbox] making important news visible
 
I'm gonna do some kind of mockup of a information banner.

http://imgkk.com/i/R6jQwT.png

qgil 2010-01-17 12:50
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Great proposal, thanks!

I just uploaded 2 solutions discussed some time ago. Lt's see if this brainstorm proposal helps getting to a solution to this old problem.


Quote:
Solution #3: Push relevant Talk Threads to maemo.org/news
Posted on 2010-01-17 12:39 UTC by Quim Gil.

The place to follow the news of the Maemo community is http://maemo.org/news/ . There should be a way to push there the best threads as soon as they are growing. Automatically, in order to avoid manual overhead. Based on everybody's ratings, in order to avoid overhead from a busy bunch of moderators/editors. If someone wants to pick manually a thread she can always have a blog aggregated to Planet Maemo and blog at will about any activity a Talk.

If this solution is well receive then we can discuss further about the implementation details but one example of criteria to be pushed to maemo.org/news could be: threads younger than 48h with at least 10 5-star votes and an average equal or higher than 4-stars. We can always fine tune depending on whether the criteria turns out to be to restrictive or lax.

No idea about the complexity of extracting from Talk that information though. Once the threads are selected they could conform a feed that maemo.org/news would sinply aggregate. Users not interested in the rest of maemo.org/news (?) could just subscribe to that feed and be done.


Solution #4: Jaffa's proposal: Maemo Weekly News
Posted on 2010-01-17 12:48 UTC by Quim Gil.

Jaffa sent a Maemo Weekly News proposal a couple of months ago:

"A weekly news digest of key useful/informative/interesting/insightful news from all Maemo news sources. Similar in style and approach to Linux Weekly News"

See the full proposal & debate in the maemo-community mailing list.

noobmonkey 2010-01-17 13:13
Re: [sandbox] making important news visible
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by joppu (Post 477889)
Very good start! - and thank you very very much!

noobmonkey 2010-01-17 13:16
Re: [sandbox] making important news visible
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qgil (Post 477946)
Great proposal, thanks!

I just uploaded 2 solutions discussed some time ago. Lt's see if this brainstorm proposal helps getting to a solution to this old problem.
Thanks Quim, sorry - still hard to read every post etc - i did check the brainstorms before posting though.

With vbulletin this is a very easy one to implement. - just needs some rules, and common sense applied to it :)

Realistically a couple of people who are on most days and know whats going on :) - then all it needs is people to see it! hehe.

You can even force a popup window in vbulletin when required to let people know about important messages.

qgil 2010-01-17 13:28
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There is a large amount of people that know about Talk but only about Talk (not visiting much even the maemo.org page or http://maemo.org/news ).

There is a group of people not that significant in quantity but with a long/deep involvement in the project that, on the other hand, don't come to Talk due to several factors.

Both would benefit of having the best Talk threads going through the same process than the rest of maemo.org news. All this to say that a good summary of best thread seen only in Talk would be, in my opinion, just half of the solution.

noobmonkey 2010-01-17 13:32
Re: [sandbox] making important news visible
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by qgil (Post 478012)
There is a large amount of people that know about Talk but only about Talk (not visiting much even the maemo.org page or http://maemo.org/news ).

There is a group of people not that significant in quantity but with a long/deep involvement in the project that, on the other hand, don't come to Talk due to several factors.

Both would benefit of having the best Talk threads going through the same process than the rest of maemo.org news. All this to say that a good summary of best thread seen only in Talk would be, in my opinion, just half of the solution.
good point....
Maybe a breacrumb bar right at the top that appears on all sites? (Framed or similar?)

qgil 2010-01-17 15:35
Re: [sandbox] making important news visible
 
Coincidence? After several weeks of inactivity (at least in the surface) Jaffa has posted about his Maemo Weekly News proposal: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...170#post478170

So perhaps it is better to concentrate helping him directly rather than keeping this discussion?

Anyway, at least myself have the feeling that he is onto something good. :)

joppu 2010-01-17 15:57
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But, but, the weekly news is actually totally unrelated. The idea of this proposal is to have some kind of highly visible banner on all maemo.org pages to announce (critically) important events before we get 20 threads on the same topic by uninformed users.

qgil 2010-01-17 16:07
Re: [sandbox] making important news visible
 
ahm, I thought you meant news all kinds. It's so frequent that a Talk thread goes up to the 40th post about something that is actually explained on the top news at http://maemo.org/news

Sorry for the confusion.


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