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SD69 2011-08-02 14:55

A significant day in community governance?
 
Well, now it is made public, after a brief period of secrecy, that - surprise! - MeeGo will refuse to host packages at meego.com from the individual developers and open source community that were asked, for the better part of a year to embrace and support Meego. Yes, you heard that right. The sad situation was rather unofficially described by lbt here:
http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Apps/Problem_Statement

Unfortunately, the problem has not been succinctly stated and rather vaguely blamed on patents, so it is hard to address the possible solutions and effect. But it seems to a sucker punch to the kidneys. Some may be reminded of a debate perpetuated not long ago by those who had espoused the relative openness of MeeGo and encouraged maemo developers to leave Maemo for MeeGo:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=73896
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=114

In keeping with its tradition of openness, talk.maemo.org served as the forum for the debate, even including those individuals who ironically criticize the free-wheeling nature of talk.maemo.org. Most of council largely stayed out of the debate. But, in my opinion, the maemo p.o.v. and the worth of maemo and the need for uncompromising openness was rather ably argued by woody14619
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=104
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=148

MeeGo will take mobile linux to new places and should be supported for that. But dare to say that leaving nothing but corporate run app stores is an unnatural and unsustainable state of affairs for an open source project. The proposed alternative site (apps.formeego.com) seems to be a corporate-sponsored site from our own long lost friend, Nokia.

A maemo.org run by the community would never make such a decision. To maemo and other mobile linux developers, to those of you who support open source, those of you who have said maemo is dead, and those of you who have accepted "free" N950s - think carefully, think twice, and please continue to support maemo.org

prankster 2011-08-02 15:02

Re: A significant day in community governance?
 
that was one sad ,emotional and full of grief saying ,alas !
never mind ,people come back ,hold your positions again and support this community ,as we need you and we all will welcome you .be back soon !

ysss 2011-08-02 15:03

Re: A significant day in community governance?
 
... and here's to being open and free (as in speech). *raises pint*

With all its downsides (lack of 'traditional' support, slowly developing ecosystem, yadda yadda), the upside to be gained is illustrated clear as day here.

Go team.

daperl 2011-08-02 15:25

Re: A significant day in community governance?
 
Repositories? I think Vasquez says it best:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7KAA-FSZho

Don't be Hudson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsx2vdn7gpY

fw190 2011-08-02 15:32

Re: A significant day in community governance?
 
I don't know what to say. This clearly gives us that Nokia is not a partner anymore.

marxian 2011-08-02 15:43

Re: A significant day in community governance?
 
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/6494/meeno.png

vi_ 2011-08-02 15:43

Re: A significant day in community governance?
 
So uh, where they gonna stick all teh meego appz?

SD69 2011-08-02 16:40

Re: A significant day in community governance?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 1062834)
... and here's to being open and free (as in speech). *raises pint*

With all its downsides (lack of 'traditional' support, slowly developing ecosystem, yadda yadda), the upside to be gained is illustrated clear as day here.

Go team.

slow isn't so bad. As long as it's always in a forward direction, you'll move faster than someone who sometimes goes in reverse.

zlatokosi 2011-08-02 16:47

Re: A significant day in community governance?
 
Wow... sad day, really. It's like a nail into the heart.
What does Intel have to say to that?

gazza_d 2011-08-02 17:14

Re: A significant day in community governance?
 
Hmm, this does really to be a sad and confused state of affairs from Nokia's PoV.

Let me get this right - They announce a new phone on a new platform, which relies on community apps, give/loan devices to developers to get those apps going, and then refuse to host them. If that is correct then how schizophrenic is Nokia?

I've been quiet envious of all the updated and new apps being announced, and been finally toying with the idea of dualbooting Meego to try them (assuming that they'll run on the CE edition).

Not sure it's worth it now. Meego/Harmattan seems to be an even bigger deadend than before.


I would love the developers to at least dual-release to Maemo/Meego-Harmattan so we can share the love and at least get some use and value out of the apps which people have slaved over.

I am eternally grateful for all the hard work put in by the Devs and others for maemo, and it's a sad day when they have been "poached" for a platform which is then set on fire by it's owner!


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