806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

What a nice Maemo device by a Chinese company!

July 15, 2009: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo

• 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU
• 128MB RAM
• 256MB ROM
• T-flash/microSD card slot (up to 16GB supported)
• 4.3-inch WVGA
• integrated 3G capability
• Maemo Linux operating system
• GPS
• 802.11b/g WiFi
• 3.2-megapixel camera
• 2600 mAh li-polymer battery

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

Very inyeresting. I am curious to see how nokia reacts to maemo running on other devices; for this community this is good news, because more devices with maemo mean a more active (
developer) community. Will fremantle also be able to run on future non-Nokia devices?

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

Hmm, I wonder why they put just 128MB of RAM in. Same 'mistake' as SmartQ 5 and 7. Is getting 256MB so hard in China or are they just cloning previous generation without thinking?

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

Probably the same RAM+ROM chip from Samsung.

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

I don't think they'd mind (they support Mer after all). But they probably will object to the other device's manufacturer calling it Maemo - the trademark policy is explicit:

As Mer, it already does.

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

According to the product page, 3G is CDMA2000, that means it will not work in Europe :(

Charge through miniUSB, USB host.

143mm x74mmx 17.6mm. Slightly larger than a N810, and quite thick for device without keyboard.
It is supposed to run Firefox!!! :confused: Must be really slow on such CPU (PXA are less "efective" than OMAP ones)

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

*sings* I... smell... a laaawwwsuuuuuit....

That said, it sounds very interesting, if it actually /is/ Maemo, and isn't complete junk. If a store like DX picks it up for The Right Price, it might be worth looking into.

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

AFAIK it's an old Maemo, pre-chinook. Same OS as on S101. Now, I wouldn't mind if that company poured their UI development into Mer, but that's another thing..

What is difficult about making a Maemo device is the lack of UI beyond desktop and behaviour, which is all closed source. That's what we're trying to solve with Mer, - you get a full package and the closed bits are candy on top (Flash, WiFi blobs, DSP tasks, etc).

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

Right, since I managed to dig up a rootfs from the S101, some interesting details:

* Mix of Maemo SDK packages and some OpenMoko stuff (phone, gsmd)
* Self-made status bar applets and desktop applets
* Own browserui implementation, own MCE implementation etc..
* Fremantle DSME
* Modest, of all things..
* Xomap, but not sure why.

But honestly, I would recommend Nokia to take a close look at whatever these devices ship with, because there's some rather dubious installs in what I have.. but it may not be what the device is shipped with. At least I'm not finding software made by qwerty12 in this one ;)

I would actually call this a Maemo variant It has Maemo APIs, most of it is Maemo SDK packages. It's just not Maemo, from Nokia.

Either way, this company seems to be know their stuff about Maemo and Hildon - I wonder if they would be interested in Mer ;)

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

Xomap is fbdev + Xvideo support for Epson S1D13745. Nothing (or at least almost nothing) OMAP specific about it.

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

Basically like the N800, only "slimmer" and more "mainstream" design. Only major difference between this and our beloved N800 tablets (even though I own an N810, I had an N800 before), is that it's basically a phone. Not interested. If I wanted a phone, I'd get a phone.

Mind you, upon first seeing it, not knowing any of the specs, I said I wanted it. After reading, I changed my mind. :/

Jesse~

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

I'd appreciate it if my 800 were also a phone, so long as the battery lasted all day. One less thing to drag along.

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

Well, there's also the missing D-pad, and shortage of other buttons... Yeah, the big thing it has going for it, over, say, the SmartQ 5, is that it is indeed a phone (for those of us who do want a phone). But I'm not sure how many people can actually use an 800 MHz CDMA phone, anyway; I know I can't.

I guess the 2 Mpx (the 3.2 is interpolated) camera is a reasonable enhancement, particularly over the N810's non-rotating camera, but not enough to make me trade in my keyboard and D-pad. Guess I'll wait for the N900 -- they can't have ditched the D-pad, right?

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

Only one card slot so not a good replacement for the n800...

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

Kozzi posted a link to a video of the Optima in action on the N900vsN900 thread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJLr-ENvP0Y

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

Looks more like a maemo + moblin hybrid, not android, as mentioned in the video.

EDIT: The more I look at it, it looks more like a pure Moblin MID.

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

I think the interviewer was just getting a bit mixed up, there seemed to be some language difficulty at play.

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

PXA320 way not as fast as the OMAP3 in N900.

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

Wow... I wish my N810 had that battery life! Of course, the battery might be contributing to the big size of the tablet, but the device does boast some pretty good specs. Anyone know how the CPU performs against the OMAPs?

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

I posted a video-review of it at http://armdevices.net/2009/12/06/opt...-video-review/

Please check it out, and please help me spread it around to some relevant technology news blogs!

I submitted it to http://slashdot.org/submission/11292...evice-reviewed

Optima OP5-E MID runs Maemo
 

From Pocketables

Seems like an N800 clone. Their "Maemo" doesn't look exactly like any version of Maemo I've seen (and in some ways looks like the also "borrowed" from Windows as well). I'm pretty sure it's not a blessed port/license of Maemo, though.

Re: Optima OP5-E MID runs Maemo
 

Maemo 4. Chinese don't really care about any copyright stuff, but if it is really full OpenSource (i.e. they have replaced closed parts of Maemo suite) it totally legal (as long as they obey the license rules).
The question is about built quality, features on paper are not enough. Someone care to buy one of those? :)

Re: Optima OP5-E MID runs Maemo
 

My comments are fairly similar as in my former post

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=304886&postcount=9

That said, it looks like they're using Nokia Sans as a font and a bunch of stolen icons still. I am however still impressed of how much they've done.

Re: Optima OP5-E MID runs Maemo
 

Totally legal except for the whole trademark thing :-)

Re: Optima OP5-E MID runs Maemo
 

*sigh* I was hoping that the topic search (as you create the thread) would catch if this device had been mentioned before. I knew another chinese Maemo device had been mentioned before ... but it's kind of annoying that it was the exact same device, and the search didn't find it.

If a Mod wants to merge this thread into that one, I wont be even remotely offended.

Re: Optima OP5-E MID runs Maemo
 

So, has Nokia said anything about how legal this port of Maemo is?

Obviously the trademark and some of the icons are an issue (not just for Nokia, but that web browser icon would probably draw the wrath of Microsoft), but when just looking at the code: if Mer were to cannibalize whatever useful packages are in this Chinese-Maemo, would Nokia be upset with Mer?

And then that brings up: Is here much that's useful in the Chinese-Maemo that Mer would benefit from? I seem to recall that the on screen keyboards weren't part of the code that Nokia opened up (or has that changed?) ... if that's still true, could the code from the Chinese-Maemo be absorbed into Mer? Assuming they haven't mixed their own closed packages into the pot...

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

Threads merged.

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

Is it just me or does this look like maemo 4?

http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/o...=Google+Reader

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

Its awesome!
Where can I get one?

Re: Optima OP5-E MID runs Maemo
 

We're not interested in closed source packages. If there's GPL source packages, we're interested and why would Nokia be upset about us using GPL code? :P. But everything troublesome legally we obviously have no interest in :)

From a geeky point of view, I'd like to see their rootfs.

Re: Optima OP5-E MID runs Maemo
 

I didn't mean "can Mer steal their closed source packages?"

I meant "have they implemented any open packages that fill in the gaps of what Mer is missing due to Nokia not having opened it?"

Re: Optima OP5-E MID runs Maemo
 

I haven't been able to find any sources yet, sadly. That they did implement some 'interesting' replacements, is something else.

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

Meh. The interesting part, to me, is the possibility of opening up more Maemo/Mer options, if the source packages are available.

As for the device itself, if I wanted a plain tablet of that size, I'd probably get the Archos 5 IT.

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

Worth checking if the device has a X-Terminal..

That could be interesting.

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

Not impressed, looks like a usual chinese knockoff. I would question the quality of the hardware and as some others mentioned is that Maemo 4?

Re: 806MHz Marvell PXA320 CPU + 3G: Optima unveils OP5-E MID with Maemo
 

I will be trying to install some Maemo applications on it to film another video. Would anyone of you like to write a few suggestions as for what I should try to install on it and what to do with it?

I think I may have to look for apps at http://www.woojoy.com/repository/ otherwise I am not sure where I may find some apps to try, or what I should really try to do with it. I would appreciate your suggestions then I can film a second video using it.

First Maemo device NOT made by Nokia!
 

more info here http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Maemo...3/eo0yo-s_ORk/

:eek:

Re: First Maemo device NOT made by Nokia!
 

According to the image of the video on the site, it comes complete with Internet Explorer. ;)

Re: First Maemo device NOT made by Nokia!
 

its firefox fennec but has IE icon?? wtf

Re: First Maemo device NOT made by Nokia!
 

i dont know about you guys but it took for ever to open that e