Cordia : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 

Following my Anemo idea and Carsten's suggestion on porting Hildon to MeeGo I started working on my own MeeGo image.

The goal is to build MeeGo core based Fremantle clone. Possibly with relevant parts of Harmattan once it is released. Anyone interested is welcome to join.

I have some hardware resources I could chip in and some spare development time. I will work on this even if I have to work alone, but some help and/or experience would be appreciated.

UPDATE: See http://codex.xiaoka.com/wiki/cordia:start for details and status.

Re: Fremantle on community led MeeGo fork
 

Two comments, because I think there might be a duplication of efforts:

Paths were moved around to make way to permanent solution for having repositories in the right place from 1.0 and onward. Codedrop was never meant to be permanent. The two directory patterns were incompatible and the first one didn't scale. A choice had to be made and that's the scalable version now seen on repo.meego.com.

Why build your own OBS when work and servers are underway for exactly these types of things in the combined MeeGo and maemo.org community OBS?

Besides that - if you want to make an alternative Hildon or LXDE UX on top of MeeGo Core or spin your own MeeGo deriative, go ahead!

Re: Fremantle on community led MeeGo fork
 

I wanted to safeguard from sudden changes in conception by setting separate repository, which would be more hesitant to removing files.
Setting up non-deleting rsync/wget shouldn't be to much effort.

From what I understood it's not easy to get access to MeeGo OBS.

Re: Fremantle on community led MeeGo fork
 

MeeGo OBS (product one) is restricted to people who's in any given MeeGo team that works directly on the product (ie, 'commit bit'). It is comparable to upload right to Debian build farms. Resources are limited hence access is limited. Team 'commit bits' are gained by merit by anyone.

Community OBS is something else, http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Application_Support - where the intent is actually having a open OBS.

Regarding repositories, I recommend taking a look at http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering

and

http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Process

and

http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engine...lease_Timeline

-- that'll give you an idea of what you'd like to mirror for instance.

Re: Fremantle on community led MeeGo fork
 

I'll help with what's needed. Good at testing and all.

Question: Is this fork going to be a fully working build with gps, gsm, fm trasmitter and all other N900 functions?
Or just something similar to the Mer project?

Re: Fremantle on community led MeeGo fork
 

As long as the closed components can be redistributed (I think that is the case) then we should get a fully functioning device.

@smoku: I'm glad you started this thread I thought I was being paranoid when I was reading the developer's mailing list.

For an open-source project they seem very protective of any information and a very closed-knitted bunch.

I'm skeptical of the "openess" of the project and waiting to see what happens with the next release.

Re: Fremantle on community led MeeGo fork
 

He can probably set up a .ks that drags in MeeGo Core for ARMv7 + MeeGo for N900 hardware adaptation (open and closed bits) + his own UX.

Publishing images of that is another question but solvable..

Re: Fremantle on community led MeeGo fork
 

Good news is that QEMU is fixed and I finally managed to boot self-built MeeGo image using QEMU. :D

Re: Fremantle on community led MeeGo fork
 

What about user space apps? Application Manager, Settings and all of that Jazz. I'm willing to help but we need a clear idea of exactly what will be required to know how much effort is going to be involved. There's a lot more closed in maemo than just a few drivers.

Re: Fremantle on community led MeeGo fork
 

For N900 we may adopt Moebian approach and just symlink these binaries from NAND.

But this is a short term solution. These would need to be reimplemented/replaced if we want to move to non-nokia platform.

For now I am focusing of repackaging Gitorious available software for MeeGo and well see where it leads us.

Mer achieved a point of usable system. FreGo should get there too.

Re: FreGo : Fremantle on MeeGo
 

My .ks file is in http://codex.xiaoka.com/frego/testing/ and the image to toy around is being uploaded.

Re: FreGo : Fremantle on MeeGo
 

The image is at the same place.
But do not expect anything more than the MeeGo Core... yet. :)

Re: FreGo : Fremantle on MeeGo
 

Since I couldn't catch you on IRC: We're working on bringing you GLES acceleration to QEMU.

We need to first get a kernel fix in (that generates the right kernel-n900-devel), already submitted and then build a kernel module using this (packaging in progress).

That should enable you to run hildon-desktop with GLES within qemu for testing and development.

Re: FreGo : Fremantle on MeeGo
 

Haha guys honestly I didnt get most of what you two were talking :D but since it has words MeeGo and N900 its awesome :p

Re: FreGo : Fremantle on MeeGo
 

Where do you find your spare development time? :D
You should be hired by Nokia to fix all their mess!

EDIT: Smoku I've seen your post about leaving all development on any Nokia devices. It's really sad how we are loosing so many good coders, I hope you change your mind (not for Nokia, but for this awesome community).

Regards.

Re: FreGo : Fremantle on MeeGo
 

I've seen the patches on MeeGo-dev :)
This is a great news.
Do you know is there any particular Intel chip required? I have some ancient GMA with OpenGL 1.3 support only. :(

Re: FreGo : Fremantle on MeeGo
 

I bought a few buckets on ebay. ;)



I'm not going to support lairs and thieves in any way. Even by supporting their community. Period.

Re: FreGo : Fremantle on MeeGo
 

To my knowledge it speaks OpenGL with whatever GL impl there exists. Exact requirements, I don't know.

But I've had it running on my NVIDIA..

Re: FreGo : Fremantle on MeeGo
 

This is even better news. :D

Re: FreGo : Fremantle on MeeGo
 

http://codex.xiaoka.com/frego/testing/ is 404
where can i download freego image ?

Re: FreGo : Fremantle on MeeGo
 

FreGo? screenshot?

Re: FreGo : Fremantle on MeeGo
 

There is not a working frego image yet.
Although you may find images I work on at http://codex.xiaoka.com/pub/meego/

Re: Maego : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 

I finally have some ARM and ia32 hardware I can run MeeGo on, so this project is getting some substance at last.

You can follow at http://codex.xiaoka.com/wiki/maego:start

Re: Maego : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 

will be watching this, I like the Hildon UI and the idea of core upgrade with familiar UI is very appealing to me.

Re: Maego : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 

Getting closer: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/...Asmoku%3Amaego

Re: Maego : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 

Smoku, count me in the project!
Sent you a PM too about some thoughts I have about it.

Ping me on IRC (same nickname) tomorrow.

Re: Maego : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 

We have a mailing list ready. Send mail to maego-dev+subscribe@lists.xiaoka.com

Re: Maego : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 

What's the status on this project? By the way, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2011!!:D

Re: Maego : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 

Chill down man. It's the first day of the year...

Re: Maego : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 

Actively working on.
For more info see the wiki page.

Re: Maego : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 

If you can't be bothered to read the whole thread, it's nice to read at least the last page of the thread before asking questions. :p

Re: Maego : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 

Ok, question deleted.

It might be helpful to edit the topmost post to have details like the link to the wiki.

Re: Maego : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 

Sure. Added.

Re: Maego : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 

I wish all developers the best of luck. I would love to see a more recent kernel (with all its drivers) on the n900, but I ain't too fond of the Meego Handset UX. I really hope you guys will succeed :)

Re: Maego : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 

Best of luck to all the devs!
This project looks interesting. Especially about Vala. :)

Re: Maego : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 

Interesting - to me, the Vala bit seems unrelated to the rest of the project (bringing fremantle UI to the meego stack).

Re: Maego : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 

I just wanted to give the developers my kudos and best wishes on this project.

Re: Maego : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 

Very nice, but I was reading the wiki, and I was wondering, This project means that we will have the same IU from Maemo on top of MeeGo? Or it means that we could run the same apps from Maemo on MeeGo but the UI will be the one from MeeGo?

Re: Maego : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 

The project's primary mission is that we make Hildon Desktop installable on MeeGo with all the goodies it has on Maemo. (Customizable homescreens, widgets, etc)

Re: Maego : Maemo5 UI on top MeeGo Core
 

Ok, then it would be like having Maemo instead of MeeGo running on the device? because that would be nice, I don't like MeeGo IU. I think MeeGo UI is a step back from the point where Maemo is already,