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deutch1976 2017-10-02 16:28

Gladly back to Sailfish OS :)
 
After spendig about six months on Sailfis OS again (i had a Jolla 1 before) and loved it i'm saying goodbye for now. Many lost calls and text messages not received left me to this decision. I'm even considering selling my Aquafish converted to Jolla C firmware. Already miss Sailfish but some bugs and the lack of LTE band 20 made me put it inside a drawer. I read in the forum that some users had the same problems with no solution ahead. Some of them thought that it was a carrier problem but i noticed it happened when i moved around and lost wifi connection to data. Somehow when someone was calling to me the phone rang on the other side but my Aquafish wasn't showing anything. The same with the text messages. I had to reboot to work again. I will continue to read the forum and help anyone that needs my help. I'm available to try new things for our comunity since it's not my primary device. I moved to a Nokia 5 and i can say that if it was possible to install Sailfish on it it would be great. Thanks to all that help me trough these years.;)

Dave999 2017-10-02 16:34

Re: Retiring from Sailfish OS (For now)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deutch1976 (Post 1535675)
After spendig about six months on Sailfis OS again (i had a Jolla ! before) and loved it i'm saying goodbye for now. Many lost calls and text messages not received left me to this decision. I'm even considering selling my Aquafish converted to Jolla C firmware. Already miss Sailfish but some bugs and the lack of LTE band 20 made me put it inside a drawer. I read in the forum that some users had the same problems with no solution ahead. Some of them thought that it was a carrier problem but i noticed it happened when i moved around and lost wifi connection to data. Somehow when someone was calling to me the phone rang on the other side but my Aquafish wasn't showing anything. The same with the text messages. I had to reboot to work again. I will continue to read the forum and help anyone that needs my help. I'm available to try new things for our comunity since it's not my primary device. I moved to a Nokia 5 and i can say that if it was possible to install Sailfish on it it would be great. Thanks to all that help me trough these years.;)

Thank you. You are always welcome to off-topic if you want to have a good time with your Nokia 5 or anything else completely unrelated. .

Mazoon 2017-10-02 16:52

Re: Retiring from Sailfish OS (For now)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deutch1976 (Post 1535675)
After spendig about six months on Sailfis OS again (i had a Jolla 1 before) and loved it i'm saying goodbye for now. Many lost calls and text messages not received left me to this decision. I'm even considering selling my Aquafish converted to Jolla C firmware. Already miss Sailfish but some bugs and the lack of LTE band 20 made me put it inside a drawer. I read in the forum that some users had the same problems with no solution ahead. Some of them thought that it was a carrier problem but i noticed it happened when i moved around and lost wifi connection to data. Somehow when someone was calling to me the phone rang on the other side but my Aquafish wasn't showing anything. The same with the text messages. I had to reboot to work again. I will continue to read the forum and help anyone that needs my help. I'm available to try new things for our comunity since it's not my primary device. I moved to a Nokia 5 and i can say that if it was possible to install Sailfish on it it would be great. Thanks to all that help me trough these years.;)

The rolled-back/EA/upcoming 2.1.1/2.1.2 has a fix (workaround?) for this, BTW; the phone warns if it loses the connections and suggests a reboot. Has worked for me at least (YMMV).

deutch1976 2017-10-02 16:59

Re: Retiring from Sailfish OS (For now)
 
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Originally Posted by Mazoon (Post 1535677)
The rolled-back/EA/upcoming 2.1.1/2.1.2 has a fix (workaround?) for this, BTW; the phone warns if it loses the connections and suggests a reboot. Has worked for me at least (YMMV).

Maybe i'll try it one day, if i won't sell it before. thanks anyway :)

jenix 2017-10-04 12:49

Re: Retiring from Sailfish OS (For now)
 
I understand your problems (experienced the missed calls myself), but 2.1.1 (and now 2.1.2) seems to have fixed them at least for me (no missed calls, not even the notification that rild crashed and a reboot is needed).
The LTE problems probably come from the fact that the Aquafish was designed for the indian market where only parts of the LTE bands from Europe or the USA are used.

My suggestion, if you would like to stay with SFOS would be to take a look at SFOS X and the Xperia X. The community builds look pretty solid and since the Xperia is targeted at the european / US market, they are more refined to it. I won't suspect any connectivity issues as was the case with the Aquafish. Of course, we'll have to wait till next week and the official release to see for sure.

deutch1976 2017-10-04 15:47

Re: Retiring from Sailfish OS (For now)
 
I'm not willing to invest on SFOS X and the Xperia X because i don't want to buy a phone and pay an extra for the OS. About the LTE problem as to do when i go to a certain region of Portugal where i realy need LTE and not having the 20 band it works on a very poor 3g. I would consider buying chenliangchen phone when it gets available to buy

meatbiscuit 2017-10-06 03:12

Re: Retiring from Sailfish OS (For now)
 
Dave -- have you bailed on Sailfish too?

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1535676)
Thank you. You are always welcome to off-topic if you want to have a good time with your Nokia 5 or anything else completely unrelated. .


deutch1976 2018-01-15 17:17

Re: Retiring from Sailfish OS (For now)
 
Hello once more. Any ideas about the text message not received on the Aquafish with 2.1.3? I used it the other day and did not receive messages the all day. Hope anyone can give a hint. Thanks in advance

juiceme 2018-01-15 21:20

Re: Retiring from Sailfish OS (For now)
 
Are you sure it's not just your crap provider that is trashing your messages?
Did the sender get a "delivery confirmed" message?
Anything in the journal when you're supposed to be receiving a message?

deutch1976 2018-01-15 22:05

Re: Retiring from Sailfish OS (For now)
 
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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1540271)
Are you sure it's not just your crap provider that is trashing your messages?
Did the sender get a "delivery confirmed" message?
Anything in the journal when you're supposed to be receiving a message?

My provider is really a crap but i'm sure it's not his fault. It's the second sim i try and always happens on aquafish but not on no other phone

pichlo 2018-01-16 06:17

Re: Retiring from Sailfish OS (For now)
 
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Originally Posted by deutch1976 (Post 1540261)
Hello once more. Any ideas about the text message not received on the Aquafish with 2.1.3? I used it the other day and did not receive messages the all day. Hope anyone can give a hint. Thanks in advance

Have you tried the obvious? Sending an SMS to yourself?
I am inclined to side with juiceme and blame your provider.
I've had a similar problem. Some of my international texts never arrive. The money is taken off the credit but that's it. The blame is squarely on my provider.

deutch1976 2018-01-16 07:11

Re: Retiring from Sailfish OS (For now)
 
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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1540279)
Have you tried the obvious? Sending an SMS to yourself?
I am inclined to side with juiceme and blame your provider.
I've had a similar problem. Some of my international texts never arrive. The money is taken off the credit but that's it. The blame is squarely on my provider.

It only happens on Aquafish. On other phones is ok so even if my provider is a crap this time is not their fault

pichlo 2018-01-16 07:44

Re: Retiring from Sailfish OS (For now)
 
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Originally Posted by deutch1976 (Post 1540281)
It only happens on Aquafish.

A silly question but sometimes one has to ask the obvious: did you mean,"It only happens on Aquafish with the same SIM card"?
As in, "I have moved the SIM card to another phone, sent an SMS to it and it was received OK"?

And, talking about obvious questions, you have not answered my previous obvious question: have you tried sending a text to yourself?

deutch1976 2018-01-16 08:06

Re: Retiring from Sailfish OS (For now)
 
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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1540282)
A silly question but sometimes one has to ask the obvious: did you mean,"It only happens on Aquafish with the same SIM card"?
As in, "I have moved the SIM card to another phone, sent an SMS to it and it was received OK"?

And, talking about obvious questions, you have not answered my previous obvious question: have you tried sending a text to yourself?

I'll try it later but if it works fine on any other phone and it only happens on Aquafish isn't it suposed to be this phone's problem?

juiceme 2018-01-16 11:29

Re: Retiring from Sailfish OS (For now)
 
Weel it might be the phone, the provider or the way the phone registers itself to the provider's network.

Here's an example; When @mosen sends me a SMS, I get them always. When I send a SMS to him, he never gets those. However he can get SMS'es sent by other people... go figure.

deutch1976 2018-01-16 11:42

Re: Retiring from Sailfish OS (For now)
 
I really believe it is a OS problem as Jolla replies
https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/a...s/202505018#13

pichlo 2018-01-16 12:30

Re: Retiring from Sailfish OS (For now)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1540289)
Weel

Weelly? :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1540289)
]Here's an example; When @mosen sends me a SMS, I get them always. When I send a SMS to him, he never gets those. However he can get SMS'es sent by other people... go figure.

I have a similar problem. Two people, let's call them A and B, both from the same foreign country X, can send me texts without a problem. But... A never receives my texts, B always does. In both cases, my credit is deducted. A and B are with different providers in country X and I can confirm that other people with the same provider as A are affected the same way. I do not know anyone else with the same provider as B so cannot experiment there.

But here is the funny bit. When I am roaming, the situation is reversed. A always receives my texts, B never does. Go figure.

mosen 2018-01-16 14:41

Re: Retiring from Sailfish OS (For now)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1540292)
I have a similar problem.

Thank you pichlo. What a relief.
I thought i am the only person on earth with weird basic sms fooo.
Too lazy to change provider on that phonenumber since 1996 :D

pichlo 2018-01-16 14:59

Re: Retiring from Sailfish OS (For now)
 
mosen, I wager that the problem lies with juice's provider, not yours :D

tmi 2018-01-16 16:27

Re: Retiring from Sailfish OS (For now)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1540292)
Weelly? :D



I have a similar problem. Two people, let's call them A and B, both from the same foreign country X, can send me texts without a problem. But... A never receives my texts, B always does. In both cases, my credit is deducted. A and B are with different providers in country X and I can confirm that other people with the same provider as A are affected the same way. I do not know anyone else with the same provider as B so cannot experiment there.

But here is the funny bit. When I am roaming, the situation is reversed. A always receives my texts, B never does. Go figure.

Slipping to OT, but here goes... Over the years I've learned by a few communication mishaps that you can't really trust international SMSs. After a couple of service requests addressed to my SP to fix this (as much as they could) they claimed it to be all about the different providers' (international) agreements/contracts/partnering among themselves. These may suddenly(?) change and lead to a situation similar to mine where first everything was fine both ways and sometime later messages in one direction would (almost) always get lost along the way. I don't know how accurate or truthful answer this was but they also (kindly) asked me not to file any more service tickets on the subject as they wouldn't act on them anyway.

juiceme 2018-01-17 15:25

Re: Retiring from Sailfish OS (For now)
 
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Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1540295)
mosen, I wager that the problem lies with juice's provider, not yours :D

Haha, quite possible that!

It used to be that SMS had all the number of craziness when the messages cross provider boundaries, however nowdays it has been pretty much OK except for this one case I have with mosen :D

deutch1976 2018-03-02 10:34

Re: Retiring from Sailfish OS (For now)
 
Hello there. Just wanted to say that i could not resist to Sailfish and gave it a new try this time with 2.1.3.7 update version. That combined with Nofono and launcher combined patch (that is now working again) i can only say my Aquafish is running better than ever. Thanks to all and looking forward to achieve a Gemini PDA with Sailfish os or even Lauta revival :D

gerbick 2018-03-02 14:37

Re: Gladly back to Sailfish OS :)
 
Welcome back! Exciting times indeed.

deutch1976 2018-03-02 14:43

Re: Gladly back to Sailfish OS :)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1541898)
Welcome back! Exciting times indeed.

I'm glad to see all the news about Jolla and Sailfish specially version 3 and all the possible devices that may come with it in the future

velox 2018-03-03 08:57

Re: Retiring from Sailfish OS (For now)
 
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Originally Posted by deutch1976 (Post 1541885)
That combined with Nofono and launcher combined patch

I am very pleased to hear that, welcome back!


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