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shmerl 2013-06-26 21:24

Akademy 2013 Keynote: Jolla's Vesa-Matti Hartikainen
 
http://dot.kde.org/2013/06/26/akadem...ti-hartikainen

nokiabot 2013-06-26 21:31

Re: Akademy 2013 Keynote: Jolla's Vesa-Matti Hartikainen
 
So there will be marble as navi app i think:)

Morpog 2013-07-13 13:11

Re: Akademy 2013 Keynote: Jolla's Vesa-Matti Hartikainen
 
Qt5 and wayland confirmed for first device!
https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/356034168351756290

Quote:

@JollaHQ

@faenil @PeppeLaKappa @VDVsx our first Jolla will ship with wayland, yes
http://abload.de/img/bpdfdyjceaa1ird1nuij.jpg

Morpog 2013-07-13 13:18

Re: Akademy 2013 Keynote: Jolla's Vesa-Matti Hartikainen
 
More pictures from Akademy found from several tweets:

http://abload.de/img/bpdbelrciambp6_csyc5.jpg

http://abload.de/img/bpdysimcyaarkytj4xvn.jpg

http://abload.de/img/bpddpl8ceae8ygzlra8w.jpg

http://abload.de/img/bpdewrmccaapgxngcai6.jpg

http://abload.de/img/bpdd9w-ceaard9fwbajh.jpg

http://abload.de/img/bpdcxbncmae0zr1zvxzs.jpg

Fuzzillogic 2013-07-13 15:21

Re: Akademy 2013 Keynote: Jolla's Vesa-Matti Hartikainen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Morpog (Post 1358632)
Qt5 and wayland confirmed for first device!

Which is excellent news. XWayland isn't supported however. I guess that rules out Qt4.x, and thus we get to see Qt5 from the get-go. Which is also good news!

However.. No XWayland support (and no Qt4.x) might limit the portability of apps from desktop-space? While it likely wouldn't be a design goal of Jolla, I'd still like the idea of hooking up a mobile to an HDMI screen, pairing a bt keyboard and mouse, and use it as a (admittedly somewhat limited) desktop, running full KDE. Is this correct? Or would it be trivial to add XWayland by the community using community-based repositories?

tissot 2013-07-13 18:33

Re: Akademy 2013 Keynote: Jolla's Vesa-Matti Hartikainen
 
Jolla mentioned on their twitter that these demo videos will be made available on a later date.

mikecomputing 2013-07-13 18:55

Re: Akademy 2013 Keynote: Jolla's Vesa-Matti Hartikainen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuzzillogic (Post 1358661)
Which is excellent news. XWayland isn't supported however. I guess that rules out Qt4.x, and thus we get to see Qt5 from the get-go. Which is also good news!

However.. No XWayland support (and no Qt4.x) might limit the portability of apps from desktop-space? While it likely wouldn't be a design goal of Jolla, I'd still like the idea of hooking up a mobile to an HDMI screen, pairing a bt keyboard and mouse, and use it as a (admittedly somewhat limited) desktop, running full KDE. Is this correct? Or would it be trivial to add XWayland by the community using community-based repositories?

AFAIK 4.8 can run under wayland support? But I can remember wrong...

Starts make me think when will KDE go to 5.x series? I heard that Wayland will not be added to KDEDesktop until Q3 2014? I hope Qt5 and QtQuick2 comes before to make it easier port apps between the platforms. Also plasma active will run Qt5+wayland if I rememer correct?

qwazix 2013-07-14 06:30

Re: Akademy 2013 Keynote: Jolla's Vesa-Matti Hartikainen
 
Marginally on topic, but Lxde is moving to Qt (4.x) too and the developer said he is going to skip 5.0 for 5.1 because 5.1 has better support for X. No wayland there so for the time being.

benny1967 2013-07-15 13:20

Re: Akademy 2013 Keynote: Jolla's Vesa-Matti Hartikainen
 
Does Qt5 instead of Qt4 mean anything for the Python applications already ported to sailfish? I'm not sure, but I believe I've read somewhere that Python bindings aren't compatible (yet?) with Qt5. Is that correct?

mattaustin 2013-07-16 10:25

Re: Akademy 2013 Keynote: Jolla's Vesa-Matti Hartikainen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1359105)
Does Qt5 instead of Qt4 mean anything for the Python applications already ported to sailfish? I'm not sure, but I believe I've read somewhere that Python bindings aren't compatible (yet?) with Qt5. Is that correct?

Yes, unfortunately that is the case. PySide only works with Qt 4.8. Since Nokia sold Qt, it has become community maintained, and there are no solid Qt5 plans at the moment.

It's a real shame, as I've already ported my app to Silica/Sailfish (it runs great in the alpha SDK) - and now it turns out that it was a waste of my time. I have no experience with C++, but use Python every day.


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