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smoku 2010-08-10 08:19

Ovi Store? Seriously...
 
One has to be very determined to publish to Ovi Store...

First time I tried uploading content, the site hinted me that I need to upload .install file. Cool - I uploaded one.
One week later I got feedback from QA, that I need to upload .deb file. Great - one week of waiting for nothing.

Yesterday I wanted to upload something new. Ok - this time hint says that I need to upload .deb.
Off we go, here's your .deb file. And I got a very surprising error, saying that I uploaded .deb and I should be uploading... .deb.

That's just craptastic.
Who wants to bet how much time will it take them to fix it?

Is the whole Ovi Store broken that badly, or is it just the Maemo part?

slender 2010-08-10 08:25

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Doesn't look too good:
http://discussion.forum.nokia.com/fo...-not-supported

MiK546 2010-08-10 08:30

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Maybe you should ask for help from someone who has successfully uploaded something to ovi-store.

smoku 2010-08-10 08:34

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I reported a bug to Ovi.
Last time it took them 2 weeks to fix it.

smoku 2010-08-10 08:40

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My guess, the whole point of Ovi Store existence is:
- What should I choose? Android, iPhone or Nokia? Well... Android and iPhone have application Market/Store...
- Wait! We have that too! Look! there it is - Ovi Store...

And there you go - the checkmark/yes on the comparison list.
It does not really matter, that it does not work. You will get to know that AFTER you buy the device...

johnel 2010-08-10 08:59

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The OVI store is a classic example of a product designed "by commitee" or "looks good on paper".

I can imagine Nokia thinking "Hey our competitors have their own app store and we don't".

Nokia "brainstorm" the idea. Managaement say "this is cool our own app store". It gets implemented without much thought - a reactive decision is made rather than a strategic decision.

OVI Store is launched - it looks the part, on the surface is works fine (from customer point-of-view) but back-end stuff and the "boring" logistics of actually providing new stuff is ignored.

Nobody took the time and effort to analyse how the back-end process will operate. For example, initially requiring a VAT number - if Nokia actually knew anything about the current market of selling software they would realise many software "companies" are very small developer teams or individuals.

If you are going to charge people to upload apps you had better offer some value (e.g. do a better job of talking to developers in the app store - Nokia's track record of communicating to anyone outside Nokia is not a good one).

Just goes to show how out of touch Nokia are with the growing smartphone and app market.

Nokia are quite happy sitting on their backsides riding the momentum of providing "budget" symbian-based mobile phones.

People are demanding more from their mobile phones and at some point it won't be good enough - all phones will have to be smartphone in the future.

MeeGo is Nokia's last chance but I think they are too late.

(Hopefully I will be proved wrong)

stickymick 2010-08-10 09:28

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Ovi Store is what came out of the ashes of Nokia MOSH.

MOSH had literally thousands of apps, or for want of a better word "items". Sadly though around 70% of it was illegal, and Nokia were told to clean things up. Once they removed all the hacks, copyrighted videos, illegal mp3 albums & tracks, porn, Bluetooth hacking utils and stuff that just didn't work on any model of Nokia handset, there was next to nothing left. Get-Jar seems to be going in a similar direction. I lost track of how much time and bandwidth I spent downloading stuff to my N95 only for it to either fail to install or fail to work.

The same thing happened to the iPhone Appstore, and just for the record, MOSH was up and running before the original iPhone hit the shelves ;)

johnel 2010-08-10 09:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stickymick (Post 781298)
Ovi Store is what came out of the ashes of Nokia MOSH.

MOSH had literally thousands of apps, or for want of a better word "items". Sadly though around 70% of it was illegal, and Nokia were told to clean things up. Once they removed all the hacks, copyrighted videos, illegal mp3 albums & tracks, porn, Bluetooth hacking utils and stuff that just didn't work on any model of Nokia handset, there was next to nothing left. Get-Jar seems to be going in a similar direction. I lost track of how much time and bandwidth I spent downloading stuff to my N95 only for it to either fail to install or fail to work.

The same thing happened to the iPhone Appstore, and just for the record, MOSH was up and running before the original iPhone hit the shelves ;)

So the question becomes "What's the difference between Apple's store and Nokia's?"

johnel 2010-08-10 09:55

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What about the app store for Palm PDAs?

PalmGear

I bought stuff from there before and proved really useful.

Nokia have a huge mobile phone marketshare and should be encouraging people to write software for it.

The QT SDK is a great development environment from a technical perspective everything is pretty much there.

Nokia have no excuse for the current state of the OVI Store - the concept has proved itself on more than one occasion.

The OVI Store is like walking down the street, walking behind a "fine looking lady with a great figure and long golden blonde hair almost silhouetted against the sunlight", you then think "wow! she must be lovely - I wonder what she looks like?"

Then she turns round and she has the face of a 102 year-old with sun-damaged skin that would put a wrinkled prune to shame and you feel overwhelming disappointment.

kureyon 2010-08-10 10:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnel (Post 781311)
So the question becomes "What's the difference between Apple's store and Nokia's?"

One works, the other doesn't?


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