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Texrat 2009-11-01 19:25

[Under Consideration] Improving the Maemo 5 phone experience
 
Abstract:

Quote:

Some have complained that the N900 cell capability feels like an afterthought, and is missing features expected on advanced communications devices.

While the N900 may be a mobile computer first, there is no reason to accept phone shortcomings if improvements make sense and can be reasonably incorporated.

If you have ideas for UI and/or usability improvements to the cell or even VoIP functionality, add them here!
http://maemo.org/community/brainstor...ne_experience/

The thread by matthewcc that started all this: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=33551

Related thread on Contact grouping: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=33812

RevdKathy 2009-11-01 19:27

Re: [Idea sandbox] Improving the Maemo 5 phone experience
 
Most standard phones will pick up the network's answer-phone service from the sim card, and install it on 1 on the speed dial.

How does n900 handle the answering service?

Texrat 2009-11-01 19:40

Re: [Idea sandbox] Improving the Maemo 5 phone experience
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 363178)
Most standard phones will pick up the network's answer-phone service from the sim card, and install it on 1 on the speed dial.

How does n900 handle the answering service?

Sigh... I get the message "Incorrect number". Guess it didn't come across automatically...

Laughing Man 2009-11-01 19:49

Re: [Idea sandbox] Improving the Maemo 5 phone experience
 
Hmm, is that more a place to put suggestions as to how to address the shortcomings or just to point out shortcomings?

RevdKathy 2009-11-01 19:50

Re: [Idea sandbox] Improving the Maemo 5 phone experience
 
Hmmm Well, that's one to improve then!

Certainly allowing a 'call answerphone' facility is needed, even if you have to hunt down and enter the number yourself. For that matter, does n900 have a notification if you have messages?

allnameswereout 2009-11-01 20:12

Re: [Idea sandbox] Improving the Maemo 5 phone experience
 
When I insert SIM in phone automagically configures stuff like voicemail number. As for voicemail, a local voicemail box is usually cheaper, and then you can implement your 'visual voicemail' too.

Example implementation:

1) Phone voicemail is on or off for A or B where A is GSM and B is SIP or VoIP. Can be multiple B. Can eventually even include support for IM phone calls, conferencing, or video chat.
2) If setting is on and phone is called for X seconds, them following is triggered: Phone is picked up, no microphone or speakers are enabled, message making clear voicemail is enabled is played to caller, input sound is recorded, data is flagged as voicemail in log. UI allows user to handle voicemail(s), including: play, reply, delete.

Basically like Eliza only works on Pidgin when its enabled, and when one is away... ;)

RevdKathy 2009-11-01 20:30

Re: [Idea sandbox] Improving the Maemo 5 phone experience
 
In the UK voicemail is automatically included from your network and usually can't be turned off, though you can record your own message these days.

So any other option is a bit of a nonstarter. Calls to voicemail are either free or part of your 'included minutes' if you're on a plan. I really need n900 to know if someone has left voicemail.

Texrat 2009-11-01 20:34

Re: [Idea sandbox] Improving the Maemo 5 phone experience
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 363196)
Hmm, is that more a place to put suggestions as to how to address the shortcomings or just to point out shortcomings?

We can discuss shortcomings here, and when Solutions occur to someone, they need to be added to the Brainstorm item.

gecebekcisi 2009-11-01 20:34

Re: [Idea sandbox] Improving the Maemo 5 phone experience
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by allnameswereout (Post 363077)
IMO it makes sense to select them all by default, and put on top 'Show...'

[X] Incoming calls
[ ] Outgoing calls
[ ] Missed calls
[ ] Voicemail

[EDIT]Clarification: I did not put X in checkboxes while by default it would Show All aka Filter None[/EDIT]

How about a menu of selectable 5 items,

[X] Show All
Or Show Only:
[ ] Incoming calls
[ ] Outgoing calls
[ ] Missed calls
[ ] Voicemail

and maybe multiple selection enabled for the last four?

allnameswereout 2009-11-01 20:36

Re: [Idea sandbox] Improving the Maemo 5 phone experience
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 363217)
In the UK voicemail is automatically included from your network and usually can't be turned off, though you can record your own message these days.

So any other option is a bit of a nonstarter. Calls to voicemail are either free or part of your 'included minutes' if you're on a plan. I really need n900 to know if someone has left voicemail.

Well I'm notified by SMS with link to voicemail number if I got voicemail, and receiving SMS works on N900, so...

Quote:

Originally Posted by gecebekcisi (Post 363221)
How about a menu of selectable 5 items,

[X] Show All
Or Show Only:
[ ] Incoming calls
[ ] Outgoing calls
[ ] Missed calls
[ ] Voicemail

and maybe multiple selection enabled for the last four?

Yes, I thought of that, but the first option's checkbox directly influence the options under it which must be shown in UI.

Consider:

You have 'Show All' enabled. You show 'Or show only', and now enabling one option in 'Show Only' disables 'Show All'.

...while...

Show All is disabled and being enabled 'Show All' removes functionality of currently enabled and/or disabled checkboxes of 'Or show only'.

Confusing... and what do you do when you disable 'Show All'? Back to filter user had before enabling 'Show All'?

This complexity is not worth it. Its only 4 checkboxes. No need for 'Show All'. No need for 'Inverse'. That is useful if managing a lot of messages in webmail; not case here.

What may be useful is different profiles.

Or a button (instead of checkbox) to Show All. (I don't find it worth it tho, I think different profiles is better solution.)


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