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kingoddball 2014-05-28 23:21

FreeMaemo/NeoMaemo/Fremantle - New phone
 
This is something that has been mentioned a million>billion times already; but now we (??) have some ground work done on Open/Free/Neo Maemo done.

So... Why could we not find a suitable device - Maybe something like a medium end (or high end!) Android phone, open bootloader and see if we can get Maemo running on there: Droid phones are so cheap now.

Droid = Android
BUT! On that note; the old Moto Droids are cool: http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_droid_4_xt894-4418.php -- Moto Droid 4; Looks beasty!


https://motorola-global-portal.custh...-your-device-a ---- Unlock Bootloader

Only mentioned the Moto-Droid due to HWKB.

I'm 100% sure its much harder than it looks, but maybe we should communally find a suitable spec'd phone with hwkb and good OMAP (my pref if omap) chipset.

This thread was sparked due to a comment by endsormeans

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...7&postcount=91

taixzo 2014-05-28 23:24

Re: FreeMaemo/NeoMaemo/Fremantle - New phone
 
What about the N950?

kingoddball 2014-05-28 23:28

Re: FreeMaemo/NeoMaemo/Fremantle - New phone
 
Rare, never officially released and over priced for what they are. (my opinion; but I want one!).
N950 is a single core at 1ghz; nothing special.

Edit: I don't see this idea working very well; many of the Maemo packages are optimised for the N900 hardware, so it will be a massive job - doubt it's worth the effort.

taixzo 2014-05-28 23:45

Re: FreeMaemo/NeoMaemo/Fremantle - New phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kingoddball (Post 1427131)
Rare, never officially released and over priced for what they are. (my opinion; but I want one!).
N950 is a single core at 1ghz; nothing special.

True; I bring it up for two reasons:
1) similar hardware to N900 might make porting easier and
2) most things that run on N950 run on N9 and I think it would be neat to run Fremantle on my N9. :p

misiak 2014-05-28 23:59

Re: FreeMaemo/NeoMaemo/Fremantle - New phone
 
If you are looking for one, here are some tips:
- hw keyboard
- open source drivers or at least linux-compatible blobs (binary android ones are useless)

When the DragonBox Pyra comes out, its variant with modem might be a nice device to use Maemo on. But, according to Wikipedia, it will ship with Debian... So maybe porting whole Maemo won't make so much sense - porting Hildon, maybe few libs and recompiling apps will be the way to go.

endsormeans 2014-05-29 00:52

Re: FreeMaemo/NeoMaemo/Fremantle - New phone
 
+ to kingoddball :D
Considering that the gt04 could (possibly) run freemantle
and considering the beaglebone black has had successes with standard fremantle...and (naturally extrapolated) it may work on the pyra...(possibly even the pandora).
I do not consider anything a setback.
If it can be done on the beagle...on the gta04
there must be other devices.
Attacking the issue by only going down one road with a single device is not as sure fire as multiple options.
Building devices...salvaging parts from others to build them even ...is an option...making freemantle function on other devices and not just the neo900 ...is even better. If it is possible. It means that maemo becomes future proof.
This (being common knowledge) Maemo is essentially debian it's just the touch sensitivity and the look.
I'm not much to look at in the devel category...:D
And I'm not even going to guess at the nightmare involved.
But even tweaking a debian distro to feel like freemantle...like maemo...would be an accomplishment.
I admit I'm not as savvy on the n900 side as n800/810 side...slooowly changing that. :D
Recently I've been goofing around with x11vnc ...It's been done up the ying-yang I know...with desktops and laptops...but I was curious what functionality it would have to a convertible touchscreen laptop...(I know the big difference tween vnc and the distro on device....even still....(having a huge touchscreen and keyboard alternative enviroment is reallll nice...even if it is only pseudo-maemo :D) on my n800 and tightvnc on toshiba portege touchscreen convertible pc's (m200/m700/m780) just to see what works...touchscreen wise... more than pretty interesting...I haven't been able to stop playing with it. :D ..shy of a couple things so far..like drawing apps it works wonderfully on the toshibas..
Well...nuff of my droning on....you get my idea there anyway
Wrapping it up..there must be more than one option ALWAYS.
....
and that's that ..I think it's great this kinda discussion is happening...ok...done :D

kingoddball 2014-05-29 01:19

Re: FreeMaemo/NeoMaemo/Fremantle - New phone
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuIrRoRPufc

endsormeans 2014-05-29 01:45

Re: FreeMaemo/NeoMaemo/Fremantle - New phone
 
Don't know how I missed that... :D.
Hmmm gotta read readread read now.

kingoddball 2014-05-29 02:58

Re: FreeMaemo/NeoMaemo/Fremantle - New phone
 
Same dude using a touch screen device.
This would make a brilliant GUI on Pandora, not a fan of Angstrom though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySRZGjEs5y0

endsormeans 2014-05-29 03:18

Re: FreeMaemo/NeoMaemo/Fremantle - New phone
 
Hmm yup ....watched all the vids he did. Saw one by qwazix too.
By the time Moises Martinez was doing those vids it appears ...from what I've dug up thus far...the lag and sluggishness was gone from earlier attempts and many of the bugs as well...I wrote him to find out if he has gone any further and to get specifics on recreating his results...
I wouldn't mind messing with this..


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