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jazzbass12 2007-04-15 13:05

gnome sword or bible program
 
Where can i get a install file for gnomesword or any goog bible program?
Thanks

remjax 2007-04-16 13:56

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
So far I have been unable to find one.

At least one that installs without jumping through hoops!

luketoh 2007-04-16 14:09

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
I couldn't find one either, ended up using a HTML one that was created by HTML Compiler from Bible Database. This link goes to where I got it from

http://bibledatabase.org/html_bibles.html

darethehair 2007-04-16 23:07

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
I don't have an N800 yet, but this has already been mentioned on other threads:

http://hurdygurdy.dyndns.org/maemosword/

This next one confuses me a bit, since I don't see clear-cut references to the N800:

http://downloads.maemo.org/product/gnomesword/

remjax 2007-04-16 23:19

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
Thats what I mean by jumping through hoops. To run those would be like useing a DOS program in Windows, Cumbersome and unneccesarally(sp) difficult.

With the number of excellant Bible programs available for the other PDA's or tablets I hope a Hildonized Bible will be forthcoming.

jazzbass12 2007-04-16 23:42

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
I have my PDA bible (Laridian). I tried gnomesword, I couldnt find any debian for N800.

darethehair 2007-05-21 15:06

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
Online audio bible in NLT (New Living Translation), though KJV/NKJV also an option:

http://cf.blueletterbible.org/bibleP...player_BLB.swf

I found this link as a mini applet on another site, and it had the pleasant side-effect of opening 'full screen' when I surfed to it directly. On the N800, this full-screen behavior is perfect!

The only negative thing I can find is that when the screen blanker kicks in, silence ensues.

pamadio 2007-05-30 09:04

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
Hi there.

Rapier can be installed directly from a install file now .
http://hurdygurdy.dyndns.org/maemosword/

So there should be no more 'jumping through hoops' at installation stage.

However, it is still in developpment, so expects some bugs :)

timsamoff 2007-05-30 11:41

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
Thank you, Pamadio!!! :)

Tim

tableteer 2007-06-02 00:14

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
Tim~

Were you successful installing the bible reader app? I am a bit of a Noob, and am not very savy to installing apps without the easy install links.

If anyone else was successful, a simple instruction set would be most helpful.

Thanks again.
~DP

timsamoff 2007-06-02 03:38

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tableteer (Post 50675)
Tim~

Were you successful installing the bible reader app? I am a bit of a Noob, and am not very savy to installing apps without the easy install links.

If anyone else was successful, a simple instruction set would be most helpful.

Thanks again.
~DP

Yes. But, although it's not a single-click DEB file, it's still very easy to install. All you have to do is add the Repos listed here:

http://hurdygurdy.dyndns.org/maemosword/

Unfortunately, that's where my progress has ended... Every time I attempt to add the modules (EN -- for English -- in my case), I get an error and it doesn't work: I get chapter numbers, but no textual content. :(

Has anyone else gotten further?

Tim

pamadio 2007-06-02 06:39

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
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Hi there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by timsamoff (Post 50690)
Unfortunately, that's where my progress has ended... Every time I attempt to add the modules (EN -- for English -- in my case), I get an error and it doesn't work: I get chapter numbers, but no textual content. :(

If you select 'EN' as in english_all.jpg , it will select all the availables modules in english (wich is quite a large number) and probably fail because of lack of space.

Try to select only one module for a start after having expanded the 'en' node (as in en_expand.jpg).

The check box in the lang directory is a ....'feature' i put there because i don't know how exactly how to have such a check box only in the childs nodes :o

You will have to remove the module that appear as being half installed and install it again.

If you have a terminal installed on the tablet, you may find easier to use the sword 'installmgr' utility to install modules.

Start by 'installmgr -init' and enable remote source then launch 'installmgr -r CrossWire'
Then:

- To see what is available locally:
installmgr -l

- To see what is available remotely:
installmgr -rl CrossWire

- To install a remote module such as ESV:
installmgr -ri CrossWire ESV

Launching rapier from a terminal will also gives more information about where the module installation is failing.

Hope it helps...

r2d2rogers 2007-06-13 03:35

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
I was just able to install Rapier on my 770. I have been looking forward to this for a while now!

I did have some problems, but I rebooted and tried the module download again and it's working now.

Latest 770 firmware with some added debs for the latest minimo from the herring maemo.org repository.

basco 2007-07-27 13:54

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
There hasn't been much discussion on this but has any had luck putting GnomeSword together. I like it and use it on my desktop (for windoze). I am not really interested in the other program.

Or even a step by step instruction? Anyone?

jimb 2008-01-04 00:47

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
Hi, just a heads up. I've finally managed to install Rapier on OS2008, using these instructions https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/?fu...5&group_id=200 (thanks Pierre).

I'm not able to install any modules yet, (when I run installmgr -s, not Remote Sources are listed) but that might be a problem with my network connection. I'll try again later.

Tony Thomas 2008-01-12 08:19

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
Rapier is now in the OS2008 repository and seems to run fine...

http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/rapier/

basco 2008-01-12 20:12

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
Thanks. It works faster in os2008 then 07. Too bad its just a reader. Adding note and a few other features would make it a great program.

baksiidaa 2008-01-12 22:31

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
You could try Thummim (http://tony.maro.net/ossramblings/thummim.php). It's pretty a simple interface, but it does allow for bookmarks and highlighting. The document files (KJV is available) have to be "ripped" from online using a separate program on a computer and then copied over to your IT (or just PM me and I can email you the ones I've already ripped).

Tony Thomas 2008-01-13 04:29

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
I think I spoke to soon. Now, it doesn't seem to load the modules properly. Oh, well!

basco 2008-01-14 00:51

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Thomas (Post 126567)
I think I spoke to soon. Now, it doesn't seem to load the modules properly. Oh, well!

What do you mean? Modules loaded for me.

ARJWright 2008-01-14 02:24

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
Now, what would be great is if I could use the Bibles that I had with my Palm and Bible+; that way I wouldn't have to go in an redownload Bibles again.

dwforslund 2008-01-15 01:03

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
I found that when I changed the location of the modules that it wouldn't give me a list of modules to download. The reason, I discovered, was that the directory hadn't been created and rapier wouldn't create it. I could only tell by running rapier from the command line. Once I added the directory, then I could see the remote modules. I asked it to download the ESV module but it never finishes in a finite time (8 hours+) the download. It says that Index building may take a very, very long time. But I didn't ask for it to make an Index. I tried installing with installmgr and it says it installed ESV but when I open rapier, it doesn't show any installed modules.
I must be not looking in the right place.

dwforslund 2008-01-15 05:44

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
Well I found that mods.d directory wasn't created so the *.conf files weren't installed even though it said they were. When I manually added the mods.d directory, it worked as expected. However, I can't get much out of some of the other modules such as the Institutes, MHC, and TSK. It doesn't download them correctly, and when I copy them from my PC, they don't display correctly. Also, how do I use the Strongs and Robinson's notes?

pamadio 2008-01-15 06:14

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
Hi there.

Index building may be long (along an hour or so), but download is supposed to take only a couple of minutes. The waiting window still show the warning for all operations.

I have no idea why a new conf directory could be created but not the subdirectory in it.
Can yo reproduce the problem systematically ? If yes, please tell how so i can have a look on it.

Since the last version, the location rapier use for module is not hard coded anymore in /usr/etc/sword.conf but changed on the fly according to a gconf key, you may need to use the SWORD_PATH environment variable to have it used by the regular sword utils, such as mkfastmod, by example.

SWORD_PATH=/home/mmc2/sword mkfastmod KJV

I did not try using SWORD_PATH environnement variable with the installmgr utility, but it is most probably mandatory otherwise it will try to install modules in the data_conf set in the global sword configuration and not in the one rapier use.

You can also just download a zip file from the crosswire web site (http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modul...modType=Bibles) and just unzip it in the directory rapier use to store modules.

The only sort of modules rapier uses are regular bible texts, you will have no success in tryin to use commentaries, dictionaries or commentary modules.

There is currently no notes related feature (be their your own or somebody else), and i do not plan to implement such a feature (at least for now), but i would happily accept patches if somebody write something that works :-)

Next planned feature is strong number , test package is available here:

http://hurdygurdy.dyndns.org/maemosword/test.html

dwforslund 2008-01-15 15:51

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
I configured rapier to use a folder on my removable memory card. My initial problem occurred because this folder hadn't been created and rapier hung when it didn't create the folder. I was confused by the message that it was indexing, when it actually wasn't. Running rapier from the command line helped me figure this out. I didn't set the SWORD_PATH environment variable (not knowing about it), however. Rapier did create the modules directory but failed to create the mods.d directory. Creating it myself allowed everything to proceed normally and I can index the text, etc. I'll simply not use commentaries, dictionaries, etc at this point in time (although I can use them on my much less powerful Palm PDA).
Thanks!

pamadio 2008-01-15 16:53

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
I was not doing any test to check if there was a problem when copying the configuration directory. This has been changed in svn and will be included in next release.

Thanks for the bug report :)

dwforslund 2008-01-16 00:17

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
Perhaps a related problem is that when I deleted some commentaries that I had added manually, it said they were deleted, but no files in modules or in mods.d were removed. I had to remove them manually.

pamadio 2008-01-16 07:27

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
I realised there was this bug when i mentionned the use of SWORD_PATH in my previous post. Rapier launch installmgr to remove module, and there was no SWORD_PATH environment setting in place .

This should be fixed in next release too (but i may still have to change this stuff a bit).

ARJWright 2008-01-16 14:26

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
This thread has a weird formatting issue to it - text moves to the right (viewing in Opera);
Nevertheless, I tried installing Rapier OTA last night a number of times and each time it failed when it got to the end of the download. I am not sure if it was my connection (BT to phone) or what, but I'll have to figure out another means to install it (aka turn on my dekstop and do it there, booooo).

Tony Thomas 2008-01-16 14:29

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
I had the same issue with the mods.d folder not being created on the internal SD card. The .conf files were being written to a tmp directory and the program would index for hours. Once I manually created the mods.d folder and manually moved the .conf files there, all was well.

dwf 2008-01-17 00:23

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
I tried the test strong package and get get it to show the Strong numbers in KJV. But I'm not sure what to do with them.

jimb 2008-01-17 00:30

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
I did the same. I'm assuming that the Strong's dictionary module can't be viewed from within rapier. So we'll probably need the hard copy of Strong's next to the tablet, to manually look up the number we're interested in. Old school!
Any plans to integrate the Strong's content into rapier pamadio? That'd be a very nice tool.

pamadio 2008-01-17 06:46

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
Strong's number are a new feature to me too :)

The way I'm currently using Strong's number is simply by searching for a given number reference (when the "strong number" box is checked, all search are done in the strong's number database and not on the clucene index anymore) to see where the same word has been used.

I havent looked at the dictionary module yet. I ll most probably check it out in the near future.

pamadio 2008-01-18 17:10

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimb (Post 129020)
Any plans to integrate the Strong's content into rapier pamadio? That'd be a very nice tool.

First test is available here:

http://hurdygurdy.dyndns.org/maemosword/test.html

Since 1.0.3-1test5, the dictionary entry that was searched is displayed in a window (that is, if you have the corresponding strong number module installed as well as the strong.db database available in the above link).

jimb 2008-01-18 23:34

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
strong's definitions are working fine here. rapier is becoming a very powerful study tool. thanks pierre! :)

i don't know how complicated it would be. but to make strong's really easy to use, it'd be nice if you could just tap on a number in the text, and the definition popped up.

is kjv the only version that the numbers are integrated into?

edit : i guess it is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong%27s_Concordance
that article does suggest an asv concordance has been done. i don't think it's in the sword library though. i just installed the asv module and the strongs checkbox did not show.

pamadio 2008-01-19 20:34

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimb (Post 130278)
i don't know how complicated it would be. but to make strong's really easy to use, it'd be nice if you could just tap on a number in the text, and the definition popped up.

I try to implement something similar:
http://hurdygurdy.dyndns.org/maemosw...1test6_all.deb

You have to double click a number so it ends up selected in the textview. When this happens, a search is started too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimb (Post 130278)
is kjv the only version that the numbers are integrated into?

The only other module with Strong Number mentionned on the crosswire site is in russian (RusVZh).

http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modul...modType=Bibles

basco 2008-01-19 23:10

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
I am not getting any definitions, just numbers and a search for a number. Is that what its supposed to do or is there something else?

pamadio 2008-01-19 23:32

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
Do you have the following modules installed ?

StrongsGreek -> Strong's Greek Bible Dictionary
StrongsHebrew -> Strong's Hebrew Bible Dictionary

basco 2008-01-20 14:31

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
Where do you get those? I looked in the module name list and nothing looked like the dictionaries. I just assumed that it was included in the database download when I could not find it.

pamadio 2008-01-20 15:48

Re: gnome sword or bible program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by basco (Post 130915)
Where do you get those? I looked in the module name list and nothing looked like the dictionaries. I just assumed that it was included in the database download when I could not find it.

They should be listed in the "en" (english) list of module available in manage/remote.

You can also just download them from the crosswire web site and unzip them in the directory where you store the other modules:

http://www.crosswire.org/sword/servl...ek&pkgType=raw
http://www.crosswire.org/sword/servl...ew&pkgType=raw

The database is just an index of words per verse: the sword engine let one perform such a search, but as there is no index used, the time it would take would be too long (and there does not seem to be an option to use the clucene index for them).


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