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soeiro 2009-12-29 17:19

[Under consideration] Day picker could be replaced by a true date picker with calendar view
 
Brainstorm link:

https://maemo.org/community/brainsto...ew-in_maemo_5/

Whenever the user needs to pick a date the system (Maemo 5) presents three vertically scrollable lists: DAY, MONTH and YEAR. There is no hint of the day of the week. It looks very unintuitive and very unpolished. It looks like a programming placeholder for a real date picker that wasn't finished on time for launch.

How to view the "day picker":

1. General Menu -> Calendar -> Menu -> Jump to
2. All other actions that start up the system "Day picker"

A date picker that looks like a Calendar should be presented. This "calendar view" is the standard date picker that is shown in all platforms, including the Web (JavaScript and Java). The Calendar view wouldn't have to be large, but would provide means of picking any date or changing month and year.

Reasoning

The standard "Calendar view" is the preferred method of choosing dates in all platforms for a reason: usability. It is much more user friendly to use a calendar view because (not an exhaustive list, but a few points):

a) It is a standard
b) It relates to real world concepts of Calendars and dates
c) The user needs just one tap most of the time (when the chosen date is in the currently selected month)
d) The user can readily see what day of the month the chosen date will be. Moreover, it opens up the possibility of showing additional information such as holidays or the presence of other appointments is the same familiar view.

Thanks
Luis

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One possible solution:

A system date picker component could be designed from scratch. Actually, it could be implemented as a system lib to be used by any application. A QT wrapper could be developed around it, to be presented as a QT date picker.

In later versions of Maemo, the system component could be replaced by a new QT component, implementing the same interface.

livefreeordie 2009-12-29 17:30

Re: Day picker could be replaced by a true date picker with calendar view
 
Agreed. The current date picker looks flashy, but is clumsy.

Another thing that bugs me about the calendar is that the event list view only lets you create a new appointment on the current day (without using the date picker later).

Although that wouldn't bug me nearly as much if the month view would have a window for the selected day's events. Then I wouldn't need the other views.

jebba 2009-12-29 20:52

Re: Day picker could be replaced by a true date picker with calendar view
 
"Day picker shows no daynames - hard to enter recurrence for e.g. 5 days only" -- still open
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5296

"RFE: Show calendar when selecting dates in Tasks/Calendar" -- Closed, MOVED, duplicate, but still elucidates the problem somewhat.
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6518

It's ridiculous to pick dates with the wheels-of-misfortune. Picking dates with a calendar has been done since forever, is intuitive, works better, is what is expected, etc. This should be a no-brainer for Nokia to do as well. The implementation could be done before lunch by a competent programmer, methinks...

soeiro 2010-01-05 14:55

Re: Day picker could be replaced by a true date picker with calendar view
 
Why is everybody so silent about this? Is this already fixed? Or nobody really cares?

Sopwith 2010-01-05 15:06

Re: Day picker could be replaced by a true date picker with calendar view
 
Voted for the proposed solution.

jebba 2010-01-05 16:56

Re: Day picker could be replaced by a true date picker with calendar view
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by soeiro (Post 454003)
Why is everybody so silent about this? Is this already fixed? Or nobody really cares?

It's not fixed. Brainstorm is just agonizingly slow to use so no one votes.

soeiro 2010-01-09 18:56

Re: Day picker could be replaced by a true date picker with calendar view
 
Since there were some changes, is brainstorm faster now?

jebba 2010-01-09 20:26

Re: Day picker could be replaced by a true date picker with calendar view
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by soeiro (Post 461396)
Since there were some changes, is brainstorm faster now?

AFAICT those changes haven't happened yet.

bgrigor 2010-01-14 02:29

[Sandbox] "Intelligent" Date Picker
 
The default "odometer" style date picker may be simple, but it is also inefficient and ineffective for anything but the most obvious date selections. I have started a brainstorm to explore the development of what I call an "Intelligent Date Picker".

The brainstorm is here: http://maemo.org/community/brainstor...t-date_picker/

chemist 2010-01-14 11:53

Re: [Sandbox] "Intelligent" Date Picker
 
Push this! This date-picking crap is annoying and no eye-candy...

fingerfriendly calendar showing up when clicking a date input field, similar looking or just the same like hildon-calendar-app in month view. Showing DOW & WOY.
Also the time picker, just the same! Make it an analog clock showing (for eye-candy) where you manipulate the pointers. A rolodex-looking alarmclock (you know what I mean? the old style without 7segment lights..)? A 7segment display where you manipulate the segments itself? Binary clock input?

these are just skins for a clock and date input, get it rolling ;)


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