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eekkelund 2016-08-23 11:23
Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
From telegram group chats:)

There are Jolla C's for preorder in Russian webshop.

Price is 14 990 RUB ~~ 205€

explit 2016-08-23 11:40
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Hmm... the don't really have Jolla C now. They collect the money and give you Order number.
The awaited delivery date is the second half of September 2016

coderus 2016-08-23 11:55
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
**uck ebay sellers and peoples who bought JollaC with price > 200 euros :D

itdoesntmatt 2016-08-23 11:57
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
how is it possible?

pichlo 2016-08-23 12:04
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1513310)
**uck ebay sellers and peoples who bought JollaC with price > 200 euros :D
...because now you can pay > 200 euros to this website that does not even give you a phone. Brilliant! :D

Not that I want a Jolla C but I had a try just for a good laff. You can "preorder" with an expected delivery in the second half of September. They will let you know when the goods will be available. The only potential problem - you need a Russian phone number to proceed.

explit 2016-08-23 12:07
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by itdoesntmatt (Post 1513311)
how is it possible?
Russia have a very tight binding to Jolla.
Jolla C was not shipped to Russia, so i think, the want give the russian Developers an Reference Device for the Sailfish Development.

mihsun 2016-08-23 14:38
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Jolla knows about this? :D
https://jolla.com/ru/
Quote:
Join the first ever Sailfish Community Device Program! Get your hands on the limited edition Jolla C community device and other exclusive benefits.

coderus 2016-08-23 14:42
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1513313)
The only potential problem - you need a Russian phone number to proceed.
I can handle that for you easily.
Really, if someone want a Jolla C from Russia, i can do a re-shipping things :)

lantern 2016-08-23 16:11
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Who needs jolla c when you can get aqua fish half the price?

explit 2016-08-23 16:32
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lantern (Post 1513331)
Who needs jolla c when you can get aqua fish half the price?
Some voices said, the LTE Bands on Intex are different than on Jolla C....

coderus 2016-08-23 16:33
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
exactly, you wont have 4G in europe with intex.

explit 2016-08-23 16:47
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1513336)
exactly, you wont have 4G in europe with intex.
Well, i can confirm, Jolla C has also problems with LTE/4G in o2 and E-Plus Networks in Germany. T-Mobile and Vodafone have less Problems - but also far away from Jolla 1 LTE-Function.

I hope i get my Intex in the next weeks, so i can report how Intex works in all 4 german Networks (At least in Berlin)

JoOppen 2016-08-23 17:35
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lantern (Post 1513331)
Who needs jolla c when you can get aqua fish half the price?
Maybe those Europeans who want a phone with CE mark (see discussion in TJC - some Aquafish was "eaten" by German customs due to lack of CE mark) I suppose the Russian Jolla C will have the CE mark similar to the existing one.

itdoesntmatt 2016-08-23 17:48
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
is that site reliable?

coderus 2016-08-23 18:10
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
this site is 100% reliable :)

itdoesntmatt 2016-08-23 18:20
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
so it's possible jolla is going to sell again jolla c?
otherwise i dont get where these guys are going to take them

coderus 2016-08-23 18:40
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Jolla is going to sell devices in russia. i dont know if they have devices in warehouse or wanna to produce, it doesnt matter for me :)

explit 2016-08-23 18:51
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Seems that we can simply install the european LTE Modem Firmware instead of indian one on Intex Aqua Fish - and we would get an Jolla C:

https://together.jolla.com/question/...tex-aqua-fish/

nthn 2016-08-23 19:03
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by explit (Post 1513357)
Seems that we can simply install the european LTE Modem Firmware instead of indian one on Intex Aqua Fish - and we would get an Jolla C:

https://together.jolla.com/question/...tex-aqua-fish/
Well, 'simply' is putting it a bit lightly, because if something goes wrong you could end up with a brick.

itdoesntmatt 2016-08-23 19:12
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
sorry but if the differences between jolla c and intex aquafish are just software does it mean that CE mark can be used also for the second?
on tjc zendesk 's reply reported seems to refer to hw differences

https://together.jolla.com/question/...-fish-jolla-c/

explit 2016-08-23 19:31
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nthn (Post 1513360)
Well, 'simply' is putting it a bit lightly, because if something goes wrong you could end up with a brick.
i will try it as soon as my intex arrives. i'm 99% sure the only differenxe is that software package and it would not brick the device.
jolla is an intex phone, only a couple of packages are different

itdoesntmatt 2016-08-24 08:23
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
got a question ..in this case since it is not associated with developer program, shouldnt be legally included warranty?

coderus 2016-08-24 08:37
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by explit (Post 1513357)
Seems that we can simply install the european LTE Modem Firmware instead of indian one on Intex Aqua Fish - and we would get an Jolla C:

https://together.jolla.com/question/...tex-aqua-fish/
you can, but then your phone cant see any networks at all :)

coderus 2016-08-24 08:38
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by itdoesntmatt (Post 1513401)
got a question ..in this case since it is not associated with developer program, shouldnt be legally included warranty?
which case? buyon is selling platform, Jolla itself giving 1 year manufacturer warranty for devices.

pichlo 2016-08-24 08:44
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1513404)
Jolla itself giving 1 year manufacturer warranty for devices.
Not on Jolla C sold through, err I mean given away as part of the "developer and community program" (although the legality of that is questionable, but that is a different topic).

itdoesntmatt's question is whether those units sold through buyon.ru are different.
It is a valid question, IMO.

itdoesntmatt 2016-08-24 08:46
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1513404)
which case? buyon is selling platform, Jolla itself giving 1 year manufacturer warranty for devices.
not for jolla c, considering is developer device..at least if you have bought it together with the developer program.
in this case, they are selling just the device,it does mean that the device in itself is the value and thus..it has to have warranty.

coderus, why do you think that installing modem.software as explit says you wont be able to catch the network at all?
sorry but i am curious and i dont know anything about that

richdb 2016-08-24 13:41
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Situation of the Aquafish LTE in the Netherlands:

- No LTE on 800 Mzh (Jolla C will support this after the fix, 2.0.2.50).
- LTE works great on 1800 Mhz with the Aquafish.

In the Netherlands Vodafone and KPN use 800/1800 Mhz for LTE. But the 1800 Mhz only in bigger places. So with those providers LTE is only avaliable in bigger places. For the rest you have 2/3G.

T-Mobile in the Netherlands uses 900/1800 Mhz in the whole country. So if you have a provider that use 1800 Mhz for LTE then the Aquafish works fine.

About the droid-modem-l500d-eu and droid-modem-l500d-in packages. Not sure if it works to unlock the 800 Mhz on the Aquafish. Someone has to try it, so we are sure. Or someone at Jolla can tell us how ;-)

richdb 2016-08-24 14:11
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1513336)
exactly, you wont have 4G in europe with intex.
See my reaction above ...

ciaps 2016-08-24 15:19
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Something in progress for the LTE

https://together.jolla.com/question/...tex-aqua-fish/

coderus 2016-08-24 15:40
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by itdoesntmatt (Post 1513406)
not for jolla c, considering is developer device..at least if you have bought it together with the developer program.
in this case, they are selling just the device,it does mean that the device in itself is the value and thus..it has to have warranty.

coderus, why do you think that installing modem.software as explit says you wont be able to catch the network at all?
sorry but i am curious and i dont know anything about that
because my friends who have Aqua Fish tried it and i have a feedback.

ciaps 2016-08-24 16:14
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1513459)
because my friends who have Aqua Fish tried it and i have a feedback.
Oh well.

I can't believe Intex made 1500 devices with different hardware just for Jolla.

Heik 2016-08-24 16:25
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by explit (Post 1513335)
Some voices said, the LTE Bands on Intex are different than on Jolla C....
Page of a User Manual of Intex Aqua Fish.

coderus 2016-08-24 16:29
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ciaps (Post 1513462)
Oh well.

I can't believe Intex made 1500 devices with different hardware just for Jolla.
your choice, i'm here not to urge anyone.

Heik 2016-08-24 16:56
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1513336)
exactly, you wont have 4G in europe with intex.
Not very high speed, but I guess it is 4G in Finland

itdoesntmatt 2016-08-24 17:48
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
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i asked to jolla zendesk. actually jollac and intex aquafish have differences in hardware.

well actually that could be possible if only the modem is the difference, when the factory assembled phones they just used different pieces.but maybe i am making it too easy


ps: in italy Lucky my operator have 1800 mhz amongst its 3 bands.
one band compatible is just enough, isnt it?

itdoesntmatt 2016-08-24 17:56
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Heik (Post 1513463)
Page of a User Manual of Intex Aqua Fish.
these indians are better than europeans/americans.. they reported sar value in all cases,wich is very appreciable. since the modem is different, what is the sar of the C? i am using it but my device's box is at home :)

richdb 2016-08-24 18:32
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1513459)
because my friends who have Aqua Fish tried it and i have a feedback.
Ok, so using the other package does not work :-(. Time for me to get an other provider if I want to use 4g. But till now 2/3G works well, and for the rest using WiFi.

richdb 2016-08-25 06:15
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by itdoesntmatt (Post 1513476)
ps: in italy Lucky my operator have 1800 mhz amongst its 3 bands.
one band compatible is just enough, isnt it?
Yes, because in the city I work, I have LTE on 1800 Mhz on the Aquafish, works like a charm.

explit 2016-08-25 10:07
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by richdb (Post 1513516)
Yes, because in the city I work, I have LTE on 1800 Mhz on the Aquafish, works like a charm.
Well, if its true i see absolutely no Problem to use Aquafish in europe.
I can speak only for Germany, where i live.

All 4 Network Operators in Germany are using Band 3 (1800 MHz)

Here is the whole list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...orks_in_Europe

richdb 2016-08-25 11:07
Re: Jolla C for preorder on buyon.ru webshop
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by explit (Post 1513525)
Well, if its true i see absolutely no Problem to use Aquafish in europe.
I can speak only for Germany, where i live.

All 4 Network Operators in Germany are using Band 3 (1800 MHz)

Here is the whole list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...orks_in_Europe
Depends on where they support 1800. Vodafone in the Netherlands using combination of 800/1800. But only 1800 in bigger cities.
Look for a map of germany like this: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/vi...psMPUGLFvAhlJ8


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