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mannen 2009-10-16 13:30

Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?
 
Will nokia/maemo be adding support for updated flash player? How has it worked with previous tablets?

Jack6428 2009-10-16 13:38

Re: Flash 10.1 on n900?
 
I'm too lazy, so in a short answer:
YES, Q1 2010

Bratag 2009-10-16 13:39

Re: Flash 10.1 on n900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mannen (Post 348352)
Will nokia/maemo be adding support for updated flash player? How has it worked with previous tablets?

Yes it will - if you do a little searching there is a link to the adobe presentation on it somewhere in amongst the fluff

joshua.maverick 2009-10-16 16:00

Re: Flash 10.1 on n900?
 
Yup, take a look man:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pee3nT4bPw4

samtng 2009-12-21 01:32

Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive?
 
Does anyone get Flash Player 10 updated on N900 yet?

-sam

joshv06 2009-12-21 01:40

Re: Nokia Flash Player 10?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by samtng (Post 435931)
Does anyone get Flash Player 10 updated on N900 yet?

-sam


It's comming out next year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pee3nT4bPw4

patstew 2009-12-21 01:42

Re: Nokia Flash Player 10?
 
It's not out yet, unless your job is testing for adobe.

jdave76 2010-01-04 18:52

n900 flash 10 ?
 
Realy happy with this device but really need flash 10
most videos on web are pants(bbc iplayer ect), any one have an idea when we can expect it.

bandora 2010-01-04 19:04

Re: n900 flash 10 ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jdave76 (Post 452882)
Realy happy with this device but really need flash 10
most videos on web are pants(bbc iplayer ect), any one have an idea when we can expect it.

Search the forum maybe? Really it takes you less time to search for that instead of creating a new thread and typing all that..

Diavoli 2010-01-08 17:38

Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
Since the new Youtube video from the Nexus One running the Flash Player 10.1 has garnered so much attention, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlWOocHwcLo would like to inquire about the time frame for our beloved N900 to get this, are we supposed to assume that it will be in a firmware upgrade?

I understand that it's only in beta anyways.

Thanks

chrisp7 2010-01-08 17:40

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
The N900 is on video running 10.1 too..

Diavoli 2010-01-08 17:42

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisp7 (Post 459611)
The N900 is on video running 10.1 too..

Yes i've seen that, like 3 months ago wasn't it, at Adobe MAX, just inquiring about the actual upgrade?

chrisp7 2010-01-08 17:45

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Diavoli (Post 459613)
Yes i've seen that, like 3 months ago wasn't it, at Adobe MAX, just inquiring about the actual upgrade?

Ah ok - you'd assume when its on general release from Adobe, so Q1. might be a while..

R-R 2010-01-08 18:46

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
It better be here sooner than later... Nokia needs a giant kick in the butt right now!
Same for video chat official support jingle & skype and all the optimisation and useful apps they can get.

Bratag 2010-01-08 19:09

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by R-R (Post 459736)
It better be here sooner than later... Nokia needs a giant kick in the butt right now!
Same for video chat official support jingle & skype and all the optimisation and useful apps they can get.

The phone comes with Skype built in - what exactly do you want extra

Laughing Man 2010-01-08 19:11

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
For Skype to do video calls?

It would be a handy feature so I wouldn't have to jump onto my laptop to have a face to face conversation with my girlfriend who will be in Dubai for one more week.

Bratag 2010-01-08 19:13

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 459781)
For Skype to do video calls?

It would be a handy feature so I wouldn't have to jump onto my laptop to have a face to face conversation with my girlfriend who will be in Dubai for one more week.

Ahh ok - yeah could see that being a decent feature.

mysticrokks 2010-01-08 19:56

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
omg i need that android phone.

Diavoli 2010-01-08 20:30

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 459778)
The phone comes with Skype built in - what exactly do you want extra


I never had Skype built into mine, still waiting for the download to come on the apps, just says coming soon. Personally prefer Flash player over skype

mysticrokks 2010-01-08 22:14

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
flash player over skype- what dies this mean- what comparison is that.

hangster 2010-01-08 22:59

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Diavoli (Post 459967)
I never had Skype built into mine, still waiting for the download to come on the apps, just says coming soon. Personally prefer Flash player over skype

Skype is built into the messaging functions of the phone. Once you register your skype account in the control panel, you'll be able to make skype calls and send messages over skype.

yorg 2010-01-08 23:07

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by R-R (Post 459736)
It better be here sooner than later... Nokia needs a giant kick in the butt right now!

Why? Jesus, you guys act like my 6 year old niece sometimes.

Sooner is better but bug free is more important.

mysticrokks 2010-01-08 23:24

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
yorg he is right they need to sort it out know- and bug free.

yorg 2010-01-09 00:42

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
But stic mate, why is it so important? The n900 is the only phone with flash support at the moment. Period. Why does it have to be the first one with support for 10.1? It is not that you cannot live without it now anyway.

Or am I missing something?

For me number one priority is to fix the bugs first. Flash 10.1 is just a gimmick. Nice but not essential.

mysticrokks 2010-01-09 00:48

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
i am hoping it will come in the new f/w with the bug fixs- thats why i want it quick-

i love the browser. i love it. cant get enough-i want the 10.1 but that wasnt my point- i may have missinterpreted the point

thinh 2010-01-09 01:23

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
i doubt flash 10 gonna be a life changing difference when it comes out for the n900...

Laughing Man 2010-01-09 02:12

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thinh (Post 460438)
i doubt flash 10 gonna be a life changing difference when it comes out for the n900...

Depends on how it's done. Flash 10 I think in general is an improvement in efficiency over Flash 9. But more importantly Flash 10 can actually offload work to the GPU so it's not the CPU doing all the work anymore.

yorg 2010-01-09 02:24

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
So it is going to improve the phone! Great!

Only, it is already "top dog" at the part that will be improved. It is not a part of the phone that it lacks in, so why the hurry?

nashith 2010-01-09 03:42

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
I agree that Flash is sort of like a step backwards, depending so much on a single company for all the updates and support. It's like Windows in a sense. Everybody started using it and now it's very difficult to not come across it. All the major websites use it and almost all the A/V streaming websites use Flash in some form. The ugly truth is that we need Flash for now and you cannot expect to bring the desktop web experience without it.

406NotAcceptable 2010-01-09 14:10

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yorg (Post 460371)
But stic mate, why is it so important? The n900 is the only phone with flash support at the moment. Period.

Rubbish. I had flash support on my G1 a few months back. The HTC Hero has flash, and the Droid has flash too.

The owners of all devices with flash are all waiting for Flash 10.1 for the GPU acceleration.

nashith 2010-01-09 14:26

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
@406NotAcceptable, I wasn't aware of any mobile device supporting full flash (not Flash Lite). Could you point me to a source where I can get it please.

zwer 2010-01-09 14:38

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 406NotAcceptable (Post 461044)
Rubbish. I had flash support on my G1 a few months back. The HTC Hero has flash, and the Droid has flash too.

The owners of all devices with flash are all waiting for Flash 10.1 for the GPU acceleration.

Humbug! You didn't have Flash on any Android device, period. The best you could get is the alpha-ish state of the current FP 10.1 development version, but it's not final and it's not supported, not to mention that it works like crap. And even that I'd take with a grain of salt unless you are a HTC or Adobe employee...

If you are talking about Flash Lite 3.1, that's like calling a WML browser a fully fledged HTML browser...

Bundyo 2010-01-09 14:40

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_hero-review-382p8.php

First sentence.

zwer 2010-01-09 14:45

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
Quote:

Last week Adobe CEO Shantana Narayen promised a player by October, saying it would first be available for Google’s Android operating system. This morning, HTC held a live event to show off its next smartphone, the Hero, which will be available later this year. The slim device is loaded up with Google’s Android operating system, HTC’s attractive Sense user interface, and a Flash player that supports Flash Lite 3.1.
Most reviewers have no clue of a difference between Flash Player and Flash Lite. Flash Lite is not full Flash support, not even close, ask any professional ActionScript developer to explain you the difference. If we would claim any device that have Flash Lite as a flash-enabled device, then most of the S60 phones are supporting Flash for years now...

Bundyo 2010-01-09 14:47

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
This one has.

Though I can't seem to find much info about the Flash version.

zwer 2010-01-09 14:52

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
Nope, it has not: http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/overview.html

Quote:

HTC Hero browser comes with Flash Lite version 3.1 and supports playback of SWF contents up to Flash 9 and ActionScript 2.0.
Forget what gsm-arena claims, playing banners (mostly AS 2.0 with no shaders and other effects) and video does not mean `full Flash support`. Flash Lite != Flash Player.

Rushmore 2010-01-09 15:04

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
I wish we had a Flash Lite option so we could play Flash games and watch Flash video without all of the browser overhead. I have two 3430 devices (Archos 5 & N900). Archos 5 plays the same videos and games smoother and with better quality. A5 uses Flash Lite.

Even with Flash 10.1 it will not perform as well as it could, due to the browser also being open. Both in battery and actual smoothness for some content.

Bratag 2010-01-09 17:41

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rushmore (Post 461104)
I wish we had a Flash Lite option so we could play Flash games and watch Flash video without all of the browser overhead. I have two 3430 devices (Archos 5 & N900). Archos 5 plays the same videos and games smoother and with better quality. A5 uses Flash Lite.

Even with Flash 10.1 it will not perform as well as it could, due to the browser also being open. Both in battery and actual smoothness for some content.

I think you will be surprised at how much better flash is once the load is put onto the GPU rather than CPU. That being said flash is a bloated POS that long ago should have been replaced by something lighter.

MrGrim 2010-01-09 17:59

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
There's a stand-alone flash player too. I can't seem to find it now, but it works ok on my fedora system. Doesn't seem to have dependencies either. Perhaps adobe could be bothered to recompile for arm?

Rushmore 2010-01-09 18:22

Re: Flash Player 10.1 Firmware upgrade?
 
Be nice to have the option, but Bratag is correct, since the GPU being used to help out in 10.1, should be much better.

Flash Lite would be a nice bridge. Flash content ATM with 9.4 is a battery killa'!


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