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andrewfblack 2010-04-07 11:58

[Under consideration]Setup new Talk Moderator Structure.
 
Brainstorm Link

Brainstorm:

Talk has been out of control for some time and most of the regular helpful posters have left it. It is slowly getting worse and everyone is complaining about it. There are atleast 1 or 2 posts a week claiming an update is out and they run for a few hundred posts before the next OMG update post comes out. There are fake claim 19 page posts talking about porn. On top of personal insults, attacks, and flaming like I have never seen on Talk. I think most people will agree something needs to be done before talk is to far gone to save.

Talk needs more moderation that is all their is to it we need people who are willing to get on and delete or move messages. We need Global moderators to control other mods and to move stuff around globaly. I will post my idea from my blog as the first solution if you have a better idea please add it as a solution as well.


Solution #1

1 Administer (Reggie of Course)

4 Global Moderators – Talk, Software, OS/Platform, Devices
Would have the ability to moderate entire site but will be head moderator for one of the main sections of t.m.o.
Global Moderators will be over the moderators of the subsections in their main section.

20 Moderators
Some sections need more than 1 moderator (Community, General, Applications, ect.)
Some sections like old OS/Platforms would be covered by someone who has another section as well.

These moderators will have to be active and if they are not doing their job will be removed as moderators. Also Global Moderators will make sure their Moderators don’t get out of hand. They will be Moderating the Moderators.

We also either need to start deleting posts that are attacks on other people or their work. I also think that any post that is not constructive like one that basically said “Blank Application is stupid fix it” should either be deleted or moved to a new section on forums for this kind of post that are useless. Then make that section not show up in newposts.

The number of regular moderators really depends on how well our moderatiors are doing and how many sections they are willing to take.

Robb 2010-04-07 12:26

Re: Setup new Talk Moderator Structure.
 
I would also request a Newbee sandbox (Newbee thread and blocking of new thread creation) and a "Abuse Report" thread.
This will help mods ( by other users) reaching the problem threads quickly - because "report this" is sometimes not enough.

Royalridge 2010-04-07 12:36

Re: Setup new Talk Moderator Structure.
 
I'd have to say that in the short time I've been here I've found the talk forum counterproductive. Far too many threads that end up in name calling and flame wars.

My own forum has over 2.5M posts, 30K+ members, etc. but has been around a lot longer than here, so we're not as busy in terms of daily post traffic. We have many rules around personal attacks, post content, "pointless threads", etc. I've 2 Admins, 7 "SuperMods", and around 50 moderators who all look after a minimum of 2 sections each. We use vBulletin's inbuilt infraction system to warn users of inappropriate behaviour and automatically ban people who rack up enough warning points.

I think Andrew's ideas are well worth taking further.

Grant.

andrewfblack 2010-04-07 13:12

Re: Setup new Talk Moderator Structure.
 
Please remember to vote for the brainstorm if you like my solution.

hqh 2010-04-07 13:17

Re: Setup new Talk Moderator Structure.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewfblack (Post 599221)
Talk has been out of control for some time and most of the regular helpful posters have left it.

Yes. A technical forum like this will not be doing very well if all that is left are beginners.

Venemo 2010-04-07 13:44

Re: Setup new Talk Moderator Structure.
 
Hi,

This is the third thread regarding the issue.
Perhaps you can find some helpful information in the others:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=49034
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=48148&page=3

Viqsi 2010-04-07 13:45

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I'm also kind of shocked by the lack of numbers in moderators here. I can understand the potential fear of losing some degree of openness, but I think that has more to do with choosing the right moderators than it does having moderators at all.

If you let the inmates help run the asylum for too long, eventually all the doctors are going to leave.


Now, that said, there probably needs to be a clearer (or more accessible - I couldn't find any) set of rules for the forum first so prospective moderators have a good idea of what they need to enforce. We don't need well-intentioned but misguided folks banning every thread on the iPad, for example... :)

jesuska 2010-04-07 14:03

Re: Setup new Talk Moderator Structure.
 
got flamed a week ago for suggesting more moderation....

but i still believed this is waht needs to be done, so i will support this brainstorm

andrewfblack 2010-04-07 14:53

Re: Setup new Talk Moderator Structure.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Venemo (Post 599334)
Hi,

This is the third thread regarding the issue.
Perhaps you can find some helpful information in the others:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=49034
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=48148&page=3

Several of us have been wanting more moderation but non have created a brainstorm to try and get it started yet.

BTW Brainstorm is now under vote. Please vote for my solution or submit a new one.

timoph 2010-05-02 22:05

Re: [Under consideration]Setup new Talk Moderator Structure.
 
voted for tmo without meaningless whining, abuse and other redundant noise.


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