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Schturman

2014-01-21 22:42

64GB microSD & Jolla

I bought one of Transcend, and jolla can see it.. It come formatted to exFAT, already tried to reformat it to NTFS and ext4, but nothing help..
Both file mangers (CargoDock and File Browser) can't see it, also when I connect jolla to pc :(
Can someone explain me how to get it work, please ?

aegis

2014-01-22 00:56

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Format it to FAT32. You'll need to use command line tools on Windows as the GUI will insist on exFAT. On a Mac Disk Utility will format it ok but watch the default partition options.

The partition scheme has to be the old Master Boot Record type and only one partition is supported. It should auto mount.

You can also use btrfs and ext4 but those aren't compatible with Windows or Macs and it won't auto mount.

Schturman

2014-01-22 02:09

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

thank you , i will try it later..

Kabouik

2014-01-22 02:18

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

ext4 format will be OK, but it will not be automatically mounted. I had to edit /usr/sbin/mount-sd.sh with valuable help from someone on the IRC channel to automatically mount it. Now it works and I can use SFTP to transfer or remove files from /run/user/100000/media/sdcard, even using Windows.

My mount-sd.sh after the changes is the following, but I cannot guarantee this is safe as I only did what I was told to. Please keep in mind that it might really result in issues with your Jolla, and here the warning is a true warning because I'm not a Linux power user.

Code:

#!/bin/bash



SDCARD=/dev/sdcard

DEF_UID=$(grep "^UID_MIN" /etc/login.defs |  tr -s " " | cut -d " " -f2)

DEF_GID=$(grep "^GID_MIN" /etc/login.defs |  tr -s " " | cut -d " " -f2)

DEVICEUSER=$(getent passwd $DEF_UID | sed 's/:.*//')

MNT=/run/user/$DEF_UID/media/sdcard



if [ "$ACTION" = "add" ]; then

        if [ -b /dev/mmcblk1p1 ]; then

                ln -sf /dev/mmcblk1p1 $SDCARD

        elif [ -b /dev/mmcblk1 ]; then

                ln -sf /dev/mmcblk1 $SDCARD

        else

                exit $?

        fi

        su $DEVICEUSER -c "mkdir -p $MNT"

        mount $SDCARD $MNT -o uid=$DEF_UID,gid=$DEF_GID

        if [ -z $(mount | grep $MNT) ]; then

                # let's try 2nd time w/o options

                mount -o rw $SDCARD $MNT

                if [ $? = 0 ]; then

                        chown $DEF_UID:$DEF_GID $MNT

                fi

        fi

else

        umount $SDCARD



        if [ $? = 0 ]; then

                rm -f $SDCARD

        else

                umount -l $MNT

                rm -f $SDCARD

        fi

fi

juiceme

2014-01-22 06:43

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

I formatted my card to btrfs and it works OK.

rainisto

2014-01-22 07:17

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

exFAT works ok if you just compile these into the device http://code.google.com/p/exfat/downloads/list

ZogG	2014-01-22 07:29

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Anyone tried to use samsung's driver? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTQzODQ

javispedro

2014-01-22 07:57

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Note that FAT32 works just fine for Windows.

cvp	2014-01-22 07:59

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

i use samsung 64gb with fat32 and work very well. No Probs. i dont try it with exFAT/NTFS before, cant say if this working too

willi6868

2014-01-22 09:38

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainisto (Post 1408111)

exFAT works ok if you just compile these into the device http://code.google.com/p/exfat/downloads/list

Could someone please provide a rpm-package or a How-To for this? :D

nieldk

2014-01-22 10:20

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Quote:

Originally Posted by willi6868 (Post 1408136)

Could someone please provide a rpm-package or a How-To for this? :D

create a .spec file and use rpmbuild -ba /rpmbuild/SPECS/fuse-exfat.spec

fuse-exfat.spec (example)

Code:

 

Name:          fuse-exfat

Version:       1.0.1

Release:       0

Summary:       Free exFAT file system implementation

Group:         System/Tools

Vendor:        Samsung

Distribution:  SailfisfOS

URL:           http://code.google.com/p/exfat/

Source:        http://exfat.googlecode.com/files/fu...ersion}.tar.gz

License:       GPL

BuildRequires: glibc-devel

BuildRequires: libfuse-devel

BuildRequires: scons

BuildRoot:     %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-root

%debug_package

%description

A full-featured exFAT file system implementation for GNU/Linux other Unix-like systems as a FUSE module.

%prep

%setup -q

%build

scons

%install

[ "%{buildroot}" != / ] && rm -rf "%{buildroot}"

scons install DESTDIR=%{buildroot}/sbin

install -d %{buildroot}%{_mandir}/man8

install -m 644 fuse/mount.exfat-fuse.8 \

   %{buildroot}%{_mandir}/man8/mount.exfat-fuse.8

%clean

[ "%{buildroot}" != / ] && rm -rf "%{buildroot}"

%files

%defattr(-,root,root)

/sbin/mount.exfat

/sbin/mount.exfat-fuse

%{_mandir}/man8/mount.exfat-fuse.*

%doc COPYING

%changelog

* Wed Jan 22 2014 Builder <builder@...> 1.0.1

- To be done

cvp	2014-01-22 11:16

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Quote:

Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1408148)

create a .spec file and use rpmbuild -ba /rpmbuild/SPECS/fuse-exfat.spec

I copy past and correct the second link and save this as fuse-exfat.spec and put it to the phone in Downloads folder.

I start Terminal an write this command:
rpmbuild -ba /home/nemo/Downloads/fuse-exfat.spec

after than i get this:
command not found

do i have install a rpmbulider over terminal?

nieldk

2014-01-22 12:46

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Well, I suggest googling building RPMs'
But, short, you need C development tools and libraries etc install.
Then, you need the tool rpmbuild (pkcon install rpm-build)
setup a directory structure like this

mkdir -p ~/rpmbuild/SPECS
mkdir ~/rpmbuild/SOURCES
mkdir ~/rpmbuild/RPMS
mkdir ~/rpmbuild/SRPMS

create .spec files in ~/rpmbuild/SPECS folder (ie. fuse-utils.spec goes here)
download source tarballs to ~/rpmbuild/SOURCES folder

run rpmbuild -ba rpmbuild/SPECS/fuse-utils.spec
once, and if, it finish without errors, rpms will be created in rpmbuild/RPMS folder and source rpms in rpmbuild/SRPMS folder

EDIT: and oh, probably, it might not work with my spec file ;) then you will need to investigate the errors outputted by rpmbuild, make changes, and try again :)

nieldk

2014-01-22 13:07

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

You may try these I guess
ftp://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/rpmfusion...20.armv7hl.rpm

ftp://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/rpmfusion...20.armv7hl.rpm

Since they are compiled for armv7hl they may work, or, download the SRPMS from

ftp://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/rpmfusion...1.fc20.src.rpm
ftp://fr.rpmfind.net/linux/rpmfusion...1.fc20.src.rpm

Raim	2014-01-22 13:33

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZogG (Post 1408113)

Anyone tried to use samsung's driver? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...tem&px=MTQzODQ

Yes, I got it to compile with a minimal fix. For testing purposes on my Jolla I only used it against a loop device and not a real SD card yet. But it works fine. :-)

https://github.com/raimue/exfat-nofu...master...jolla

stefanmohl

2014-01-22 14:38

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Quote:

Originally Posted by aegis (Post 1408065)

Format it to FAT32. You'll need to use command line tools on Windows as the GUI will insist on exFAT.

A quick trick to fool Windows into enabling FAT32 in the GUI is to enable caching on the USB-memory:

Right-click the USB-drive and select "Properties"

Select the "Hardware"-tab

Find and select your USB-memory in the list

Click the "Properties"-button below

Select the "Policies"-tab on the new requester

Choose "Optimize for performance"

Click "OK" on the requesters

This should allow you to use FAT32-formatting on your USB-drive, but don't forget to repeat the process and set it back to "Optimize for quick removal" once you are done formatting!

But remember, FAT32 only allows files up to 4GB in size and can't handle soft-links or permissions. Trasferring files over network and formatting as ext3/4 makes the microSD much more useful.

Thoke

2014-01-22 15:47

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Anyone know how to make music & pictures in a btrfs-formatted microsd to show in Jolla's gallery and media player app? Manually mounting it (/dev/mmcblk1p1) to run/user/100000/media/sdcard doesn't work, so the apps must fetch their data from somewhere else, or there's another problem somewhere. The card doesn't automatically mount to anything.

My microsd has a ms-dos partition table and has no file-permission restrictions in it currently (chmod 777). Any help will be appreciated, as I really don't have that much linux command-line knowledge, it just started accumulating recently :)

nieldk

2014-01-22 16:09

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thoke (Post 1408222)

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...86#post1407186

rannari

2014-01-22 16:16

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thoke (Post 1408222)

I have made three symlinks:
- one from /run/user/100000/media/sdcard to /home/nemo to be able to access the sdcard with PC connection
- for music I have a symlink from my music folder in sdcard to /home/nemo/Music
- and a symlink to /home/nemo/Pictures to handle images

Works just fine. No problems.
Card is 64 Gb btrfs-formatted...

Mitrigol

2014-01-22 16:44

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

To add media on sdcard to libraries, i manually created a folder "sdcard" in /home/nemo and then mount /dev/mmcblk1p1 to it.
Then add the command into fstab to make it permanent.

Now you can even copy files from windows on it! (if you are successfull on installing the phone on the computer, of course)

Thoke

2014-01-22 16:58

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Quote:

Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1408229)

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...86#post1407186

Yes, I've been following that thread. The things there are still a little above my 'expertise', but I'll definetely try to learn to script -it's probably easier than I think- when I have time. But thank you anyways :)
Also, that thread and this, they seriously overlap.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rannari (Post 1408230)

Thank you, this worked! Now when you wrote it, it seemed so obvious, I'm amazed I didn't try that before :o

PS: I've also a 64gb card.

javispedro

2014-01-22 17:57

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thoke (Post 1408222)

What does running the following command show?

Code:

gsettings get org.freedesktop.Tracker.Miner.Files index-recursive-directories

(GSettings is the program that reads/writes program settings for programs using the GSettings library, while "get" indicates reading a setting. org.freedesktop.Tracker.Miner.Files is more or less the name of the application, while index-recursive-directories is the name of the key to read).

I think that people are overcomplicating things. Virtually the only thing you have to change to automount btrfs sdcards is to remove the uid=X,gid=X settings from the mount-sd.sh script. This is a much simpler modification that what people are doing over that thread, which is probably the result of a misunderstanding of some kind. Additionally, I suspect this change will come with a future SailfishOS update.

Everything -- including Tracker and thus the Music application -- works afterwards.

Kabouik

2014-01-22 18:04

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Quote:

Originally Posted by javispedro (Post 1408265)

I think that people are overcomplicating things. Virtually the only thing you have to change to automount btrfs sdcards is to remove the uid=X,gid=X settings from the mount-sd.sh script. This is a much simpler modification that what people are doing over that thread, which is probably the result of a misunderstanding of some kind. Additionally, I suspect this change will come with a future SailfishOS update.

Everything -- including Tracker and thus the Music application -- works afterwards.

I suppose that is what is modified in my mount-sd.sh file in first page (to be confirmed that nothing else differs), and I confirm the Sailfish apps required no additional tweaking to find the files I put on my ext4-formated SD card. I have no symlinks or mounting points (though I initially made one before solving the no-automount issue, it was not permanently set in fstab), and everything in /run/user/100000/media/sdcard/ is found Music/Gallery/etc. apps.

Schturman

2014-01-23 00:56

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Quote:

Originally Posted by stefanmohl (Post 1408212)

A quick trick to fool Windows into enabling FAT32 in the GUI is to enable caching on the USB-memory:

Right-click the USB-drive and select "Properties"

Select the "Hardware"-tab

Find and select your USB-memory in the list

Click the "Properties"-button below

Select the "Policies"-tab on the new requester

Choose "Optimize for performance"

Click "OK" on the requesters

This trick not worked for me on WIN 7...
Also I have formatted to ext4 on ubuntu, but phone still can't see it...

P.S. Ok successfully formatted to ext4 -> created 2 folders -> inserted to the phone -> trying to see this folders on the phone (file manger), but it not show them, it go to system sdcard..
I did the same with FAT32 and now I really see it on the phone, but when I connect my phone to PC as mass storage, I can't see this card... Why ?

But I can see it on WinSCP via wifi (/run/user/100000/media/sdcard/test777)

stefanmohl

2014-01-23 14:31

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Sorry about the trick not working on Windows 7. I used it on Windows XP, my Windows 7-machine allows me to use FAT32 freely for some reason.

Leinad

2014-01-23 14:40

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schturman (Post 1408342)

I did the same with FAT32 and now I really see it on the phone, but when I connect my phone to PC as mass storage, I can't see this card... Why ?

But I can see it on WinSCP via wifi (/run/user/100000/media/sdcard/test777)

https://together.jolla.com/question/...-mass-storage/

kollin

2014-01-26 13:12

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Ok guys how to mount my btrfs sdxc transcend card?
When i try to mount i get:

Code:

mount -t btrfs /dev/mmcblk1p1 /mnt/btrfs

mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mmcblk1p1,

       missing codepage or helper program, or other error

       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try

       dmesg | tail or so

dmesg:

Quote:

device label transcend_sdxc64 devid 1 transid 45 /dev/mmcblk1p1
[42734.855389] btrfs: disk space caching is enabled
[42734.855419] BTRFS: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (40).
[42734.919146] btrfs: open_ctree failed
[42736.390289] [BAT] 90( 90, 90.0, 90.1( 89.9) 0.0)v4309(4196)(-530,-544)t313,c -408670, 0(20471)r214,L4350,s10
[42736.396332] [BAT]## SOC= 90( 90, 90),4312(4309),A=-536,T=313,On=0,1,(1),DCP 1100(1100),vd=4400(0,0),ib=1000,0,F07,R00,W1B
[42744.574296] dsme-server(628) send signal 1 to dsme(626)
[42744.574693] dsme-server(628) send signal 1 to dsme(626)
[42756.574907] dsme-server(628) send signal 1 to dsme(626)

btrfs filesystem show /dev/mmcblk1p1:

Quote:

Label: 'transcend_sdxc64' uuid: 3f9ed2a2-8ce8-499a-9253-ca597a21fdcd
Total devices 1 FS bytes used 15.50GB
devid 1 size 59.03GB used 18.04GB path /dev/mmcblk1p1

May be some format changes on kernel level?
On my home pc i have kernel 3.9.1-gentoo-r1 on jolla is 3.4.0.?
:confused:

J4ZZ	2014-01-26 15:43

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

First try to make a proper btrfs formatting. There is no need for a p1 (partition).

Quote:

One great feature of btrfs is that you can create btrfs file systems on unformatted hard drives, i.e., you don't have to use tools like fdisk to make a partition first.

So just use:

Code:

mkfs.btrfs -L mylabel /dev/mmcblk1

and after creating /mnt/btrfs using

Code:

mkdir /mnt/btrfs

you should be able to mount your card just fine.

Code:

mount /dev/mmcblk1 /mnt/btrfs

Regards,

J4ZZ

javispedro

2014-01-27 03:29

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Quote:

Originally Posted by J4ZZ (Post 1409085)

First try to make a proper btrfs formatting. There is no need for a p1 (partition).

Note: there is no need to use a partition, but also, there is no need to NOT use a partition. The Jolla will handle both situations without problem.

Also, this is not a btrfs "feature" at all -- not having a partition table is something that's called superfloppy and is at least decades old.

It is something of a personal preference mostly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kollin (Post 1409054)

On my home pc i have kernel 3.9.1-gentoo-r1 on jolla is 3.4.0.?
:confused:

Yes, there is your problem. As a simple workaround you may want to format the card on the Jolla itself (with caution not to make any typos or else)

Chinoman10

2014-02-04 05:44

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Quote:

Originally Posted by javispedro (Post 1409215)

you may want to format the card on the Jolla itself

Is this possible even if Jolla doesn't recognize it?
If so, could you please tell me what I must type?
I'm used to Bash and Linux commands, but I've never formatted anything before, and I want to be sure I don't screw up :D

Thank you in advance ^^

~Chinoman10.

kollin

2014-02-04 16:37

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chinoman10 (Post 1410785)

Code:

mkfs.btrfs -L mylabel /dev/mmcblk1

Should do it.
If the os cant't recognize the sdcard, the file mmcblk1 will not exist and the command will end with an error. ;)

Chinoman10

2014-02-06 16:58

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Quote:

Originally Posted by kollin (Post 1410907)

Code:

mkfs.btrfs -L mylabel /dev/mmcblk1

Should do it.
If the os cant't recognize the sdcard, the file mmcblk1 will not exist and the command will end with an error. ;)

It indeed appeared after inserting the card... But...
"probe of mmcblk1 failed, cannot detect existing filesystem.
Error: Use the -f option to overwrite."

After using the -f option...
"check_mounted(): Could not open mmcblk1
Error: error checking mmcblk1 mount status"

I guess it was errors with permissions, so I entered root mode (devel-su).

Then it worked, just printing two warnings:

"WARNING! - Btrfs v0.20-rc1 IS EXPERIMENTAL
WARNING! - see HTTP://Btrfs.wiki.kernel.org before using"

Thanks dude :)

~Chinoman10.

robnas

2014-02-07 16:15

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raim (Post 1408189)

So do you have ex-fat support on Sailfish? If yes, how/what did you exactly do?

coco_f2001

2014-03-03 22:02

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

I compiled fuse exfat (pkcon install gcc gcc-c++ scons fuse-devel and then used scons as root) but for me the mount-sd.sh doesn't mount the card automatically. It works if I do it manually. Does it work for someone?

meemorph

2014-03-04 09:10

You need to change the /usr/sbin/moint-sd.sh. Look: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...37#post1414837

It should mount exfat.

requiem_76

2014-03-12 14:15

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Hi everybody!
Sorry for questioning, but,I spent hours trying to understand all the things that you wrote there,but unfortunately I'm not a developer.
I've got a micro sd card, 64Gb, SDHC ,exactly.
Using that in my laptop (windows8) I manage to format it in Fat32,but when I try to put some music in (about 15gb),this process could take really hours,and when I put the sd card in my Jolla, just a little part of my music is showed in the player. I made a surface test of the card,so it's not a fake one. Could be a problem of transferring files from my laptop? (my main pc,cannot even read the new sd card...i don't know why)...
Thanks

edit: I'm making right now a 2nd test of the card. I'll let you know ASAP.
UPDATE fake sd.......

chenliangchen

2014-03-16 00:53

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

Quote:

Originally Posted by nieldk (Post 1408186)

Do I need to compile fuse exFat or can simply using package in the first link? Thank you1;)

Tsippaduida

2014-03-17 11:49

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

I finally decided to try if Jolla automounts my sd card. The original release automounted my card (SanDisk 64GB as btrfs) and media player found music files. After the first update i "lost" my card and resorted to a fixed mount configuration. Today i went through this thread and the modifications to mount-sd.sh were s simple enough so i modified it with Jolla's vi. (I made a backup of the original first). Worked great. Then I made symlink from music-directory on sdcard as /home/nemo/sdmusic. After reboot the player finds my ogg files again.

Thanks to you all for great advices. Later this week I might have some small piece of information to share.

Tsippaduida

2014-03-18 06:46

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

It is somewhat ironic that in the same evening when finally modified the mount-sd.sh and added symlinks, Jolla's Ohijärvi update made these obsolete.

I removed sdcard, removed symlinks. Started media player and it could not find any music, as expected. I shut down the media player, inserted my 64 GB btrfs-formatted sdcard, started media player again and presto, my music files are all there and working.

Memory card support is now way better as stated in change log. There is still room for improvement, maybe with next update...

blobbyblobby2000

2014-03-18 16:28

Re: 64GB microSD & Jolla

I have just got my jolla to mount a Kingston 64Gb SDXC card out of the box - which required building exFAT support.

I am running SailfishOS 1.0.4.20

This is what I did

open Web Browser
Go to http://code.google.com/p/exfat/downloads/list
Download both files:
fuse-exfat-1.0.1.tar.gz
exfat-utils-1.0.1.tar.gz

open Terminal
devel-su
pkcon install gcc gcc-c++ scons fuse-devel
cd /home/nemo/Downloads
tar -zxvf fuse-exfat-1.0.1.tar.gz
tar -zxvf exfat-utils-1.0.1.tar.gz
cd fuse-exfat-1.0.1
scons
scons install
cd ../exfat-utils-1.0.1
scons
scons install
REBOOT phone with card inserted
SDCARD mounted as /media/sdcard/0123-4567

In terminal I navigated to the directory and did

touch blob

The file blob was created. I edited blob with vi and saved it, mored it, and also deleted it.

Obviously /media/sdcard/0123-4567 is the default place on my phone and I havent played around with this.

df -kh reports

/dev/mmcblk1p1 59G 17M 59G 1% /media/sdcard/0123-4567

I downloaded using the web browser as I couldnt be bothered to try and sort our subversion on my phone and follow the google code instructions

I dont know if both fuse-exfat and exfat-utils are required, maybe someone else can comment.

The sdcard is not being recognised by default in CargoDock.

I havent done anything else as yet ....... so not sure how well it functions.

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