[ANNOUNCEMENT] NOT retiring from Maemo Council and MC eV
 

I have been considering this for a bit, believe me.
Been witnessing the mess that resides within current Board (HiFo), and the upcoming eV is sad and unfortunately it seems things are now publically escalated.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93566

I personally cant work with disagreements of this attitude, and I certainly cant work with personal fights between boards/board members and Council members.

There are many things that can be said on who is right and who is wrong. I had hoped that becoming an eV would indeed increase our likelyhood of exisiting as a community now, and in the future.

But I strongly believe these fights are the end.

How can a community exist, with a board that cant agree ?

Also, I have seen in general more 'trolling' and even personal attacks posted here from people involved in Sailfish community and Jolla company.

This is unaccepable for me, and I will therefore by this announcement retract my positions as being elected in the Maemo Council, as well as the board (treasurer) for the newly registered MC eV.

I am also going to consider how much I can benefit from this community, as I see developers leave and posts now becoming more of a 'support' site for people who dont understand the nature of development and definately the risks involved.

It have been mostly a great time in these forums, and I do hope it can continue, but I lost trust in it.

EDIT: After good IRC discussion with current council, we came to agreement, and I WILL NOT retire

Thanks
Niel

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] retiring from Maemo Council and MC eV
 

Sad to see you go. May the force be with you. You are always welcome to hangout in the countdown thread in off topic section. Conversion is a bit strange from time to time but tune Is always very friendly.

I don't think your decision is the right one but I accept and respect your decision. You where just elected so isn't it a bit strange to leave already?

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] retiring from Maemo Council and MC eV
 

Really really sad. Déjà Vu

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] retiring from Maemo Council and MC eV
 

Tell us if there is something we/community/mc/ev can do to make you reconsider this choice ...
I don't like this cats fights on forum and prefer to ignore them as much as I can ... but I am unsure this is the right attitude.

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] retiring from Maemo Council and MC eV
 

Really? I'd be very disappointed if anyone working for Jolla was attacking a person still involved with Maemo. Can you elaborate? Is your decision going to have any effect on your involvement with Sailfsh development?

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] retiring from Maemo Council and MC eV
 

Wrong wording.
Correction to that sentence:

"Also, I have seen in general more 'trolling' and even personal attacks posted here from people previously involved in Sailfish community against Jolla company and employees."

I dont want any misunderstandings, so I will leave this here so that there will be no accusations of modifying posts to my like LOL.

And Yes, I will still be developing on Jolla and SailfishOS.

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] retiring from Maemo Council and MC eV
 

No, I only do hope that this will be sorted out, before its too late.

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] retiring from Maemo Council and MC eV
 

I do hope you'd reconsider this. The community needs to have such sensible members as you are in Council and Board to go forward.

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] retiring from Maemo Council and MC eV
 

This cannot be true!
I really hope you do reconsider (and that there is a chance you resign from your resignation).

TRUE!
But this personal flame should not bring us down. Even I can totally understand and respect your reason. This kind of personal attacks between HiFo/eV/board/council is totally UNacceptable!

True, too. That was exactly my thoughts.

Hopefully not true. But I feel with you ...


I beg those two squabblers to bang their heads together.

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] retiring from Maemo Council and MC eV
 

I think it's worth to post here:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...2&postcount=32

Just in case someone still doesn't know why we've lost another valued member, and who is responsible for it.

/Estel