Who makes the maemo.org community?
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Re: Who makes the maemo.org community?
I believe that maemo.org should be a meeting place for everybody interested in the platform, be it open source or closed source developer, somebody who designs a new theme, or writes a usefuul tutorial. They all bring something new and exciting for us.
However, maemo.org should be opened also for regular users (or maybe "educated" users) because without users the whole circus maemo loses its purpose. |
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The kind of tablet user who just wants to surf the web, check their e-mail and make Skype calls is not going to get anything useful at all from maemo.org. Hopefully Nokia is working on an upgraded version of Tableteer so that casual users can go there, and hardcore users can go to maemo.org. |
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The 2nd question ("What if development would be the core of a wider area around collaboration?") reflects a good thought and is almost reality but has a limited scope. What is the non-development part of the community? Feedback? Translation? Artwork? Users helping users? Maybe, but this is not an all to revolutionary concept for open platforms.
I'd be very, very reluctant to accept the 2nd proposal (opening maemo.org for closed-source projects). To be honest, mostly I'm rejecting it because it feels wrong, maybe even dangerous. Maybe it's because with closed source projects we have to assume they follow their own agenda. They keep things secret. They take from the community, but they don't give back. Even with the one project you refer to for "releasing soon, often, listening to feedback" - how would it help having such projects on an open developer platform? They get their feedback anyway and by their closed nature, they're not able to contribute anything to the community. (In fact, I still wonder why they're closed at all and simply don't trust the whole thing too much.) To put it short, I'm afraid closed projects wouldn't be equal players on maemo.org. They might benefit while not giving back. I think it's much more important to have a place where developers of free code can bundle their forces, a place that enables them to do better and do more. |
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krisse, I do not think that maemo.org should focus on casual users, but I believe it should allow them to join the community simply if they decide to. Your casuals user won't search for what you can do more on the tablet, but there are many curious users out there. My girlfiend is not ever going to program anything, but she can provide valuable feedback that this new feature X in application Y does not make it yet for her. In current maemo.org the download section is oriented towards casual, lite more experienced, users.
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Re: Who makes the maemo.org community?
benny, a closed source project cannot take anything from the community by just being on maemo.org They can make use of some products of the community (like using open source library) but they will do it regardless of being on maemo or not. But they cannot decide over community or take something from it: "next two hours will fanoush debug our crappy application instead of doing one of his amazing hacks." Community can decide to give them something, but they cannot take it.
It was almost obvious that the closed application thought was canola, I believe it is one of the most successful applications for itt. I do not see reason it could not be on maemo.org |
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The tablets already have an unfair reputation as being only for hardcore tech fans, and the maemo.org site reinforces this reputation very strongly. Casual users who are thinking about buying a tablet will take one look at maemo.org and buy an iPod Touch instead. I did a big long detailed rant about this issue in another thread http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...&postcount=205 |
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i don't see why we should be offering this infrastructure to the closed projects. they chose not to be part of the community, they chose to play their own game, so why offer them free beer at the party? Quote:
If there were two projects on maemo.org, skype and some new open voip client, I wouldn't want skype to take away one minute of time any community member invests in feedback/bug reports/... from the other, competing, free project. Closed projects have the resources anyway. They pay people to do what open projects need to achieve through community work. Letting them enter a platform that is, in fact, the only one where free and open maemo development takes place means having them enter a direct competition over the community resources there with the projects that need those resources much more. I'm afraid this could turn out bad for some free projects in the end. |
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Yeah, definitely keep maemo.org away from the casual users.
To slightly digress... looking at the pages referenced (which I assume are the guiding articles for Maemo's development): https://wiki.maemo.org/index.php/100Days https://wiki.maemo.org/index.php/2010_Agenda I wonder if there's a similar effort to direct the growth of Maemo's functionality? IE: Targeting the development\availability of PIM, LBS (Location based service), etc. I think it's a crucially missing point, given Nokia's hands-off approach so far... |
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If you take itTalk for example, it is a place where both newbies and developers can coexist peacefully. And both sides of community win on this cooperation. |
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