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railroadmaster 2017-10-21 03:26

GPD Win 2
 
https://liliputing.com/2017/10/gpd-w...gaming-pc.html
GPD is on a Roll and is making another GPD Win in 2018. This one features a Core M3 processor, 6" screen, and an improved keyboard. The processor should be able to run a decent amount of older PC games. The Dragonbox Pyra is going to be EVEN more out of date.
I hope we have some small form factor Windows devices with the Snapdragon 835

pichlo 2017-10-21 11:04

Re: GPW Win 2
 
You may want to fix the thread title (GPW -> GPD) ;)

Venemo 2017-10-21 12:49

Re: GPW Win 2
 
Why does it have those ridiculous-looking joysticks and stuff?

Jordi 2017-10-21 13:07

Re: GPW Win 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Venemo (Post 1537406)
Why does it have those ridiculous-looking joysticks and stuff?

It's their core business, GPD = Game Pad Digital

theonelaw 2017-10-22 15:47

Re: GPW Win 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by railroadmaster (Post 1537382)
https://liliputing.com/2017/10/gpd-w...gaming-pc.html
GPD is on a Roll and is making another GPD Win in 2018. This one features a Core M7 processor, 6" screen, and an improved keyboard. The processor should be able to run a decent amount of older PC games. The Dragonbox Pyra is going to be EVEN more out of date.
I hope we some small form factor Windows devices with the Snapdragon 835

too bad it is not another Pocket:
Quote:

GPD Win 2 is expected to ship with an Intel Core M3-7Y30 processor, which is a huge upgrade from the Atom x7-Z87xx chip used in the first-gen model. The new chip offers much better performance without increasing power consumption.
In a heartbeat I would buy another one.
I would guess linux on a Core M? might have less interface issues

sulu 2017-10-23 09:30

Re: GPW Win 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by railroadmaster (Post 1537382)
The Dragonbox Pyra is going to be EVEN more out of date.

Does that mean I can get the Win 2 without a proprietary OS or that it works decently with FLOSS?
And does it have a modem?

Otherwise I don't even see how you'd compare both devices on a common base that allows for such a conclusion.

railroadmaster 2017-10-23 15:01

Re: GPW Win 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sulu (Post 1537511)
Does that mean I can get the Win 2 without a proprietary OS or that it works decently with FLOSS?
And does it have a modem?

Otherwise I don't even see how you'd compare both devices on a common base that allows for such a conclusion.

A Core M processsor can run Linux pretty easily, it would be no different than a regular laptop. I am not aure about the modem.

pichlo 2017-10-23 17:19

Re: GPW Win 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by railroadmaster (Post 1537547)
A Core M processsor can run Linux pretty easily, it would be no different than a regular laptop. I am not aure about the modem.

The problem is not the CPU. It is the peripheries and in some cases the BIOS (signed bootloaders and the like).

railroadmaster 2017-10-24 01:52

Re: GPW Win 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1537553)
The problem is not the CPU. It is the peripheries and in some cases the BIOS (signed bootloaders and the like).

Linux can run fine and on most modern laptops; plus secure boot can be disabled if it is not supported.

Venemo 2017-10-24 07:42

Re: GPW Win 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordi (Post 1537408)
It's their core business, GPD = Game Pad Digital

Ok, but without those ugly joysticks and stuff, this would have been a very cool device, even better than the Pocket. But as-is, it's just too ugly and bulky.

HtheB 2017-10-24 17:17

Re: GPW Win 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Venemo (Post 1537593)
Ok, but without those ugly joysticks and stuff, this would have been a very cool device, even better than the Pocket. But as-is, it's just too ugly and bulky.

That's a matter of taste...

pichlo 2017-10-25 08:05

Re: GPD Win 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1537636)
That's a matter of taste...

Of course it is.

Can someone who is a gamer tell me, who isn't, if the gaming controls are even relevant on a Windows machine? I always considered Windows an OS for work, not for entertainment. And I always thought that gaming controls are for gaming consoles with their own proprietary OSes...

Jedibeeftrix 2017-10-25 12:06

Re: GPD Win 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1537666)
Of course it is.

Can someone who is a gamer tell me, who isn't, if the gaming controls are even relevant on a Windows machine? I always considered Windows an OS for work, not for entertainment. And I always thought that gaming controls are for gaming consoles with their own proprietary OSes...

Wrong. I am a PC gamer and pay, double the amount necessary to get a decent PC, to ensure I have decent gaming PC.

The billions made by steam would suggest I'm not alone.

suicidal_orange 2017-10-25 12:26

Re: GPD Win 2
 
Some people like wiggly little sticks instead of a mouse, and joysticks have been supported in Windows since at least 98. Personally if I wanted to play with sticks I'd get a console as it's cheaper than a gaming PC but to each his own. FPS games without a mouse are just wrong!

chenliangchen 2017-10-25 12:56

Re: GPD Win 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1537666)
Of course it is.

Can someone who is a gamer tell me, who isn't, if the gaming controls are even relevant on a Windows machine? I always considered Windows an OS for work, not for entertainment. And I always thought that gaming controls are for gaming consoles with their own proprietary OSes...

I'm not a gamer but I actually love GPD Win's design. I only hope the joystickers can be able to press as other console controllers.

I don't have time to play games for ages, but to answer pichlo's questions:

- One can easily play Xbox's Play Anywhere games (Not the big AAA titles but some indie ones, like Cup Head) without attaching other controllers or using keyboard

(Windows 10 has integrated Xbox well so you can play Xbox games / earn achievements / purchase and broadcast on Windows machines)

- One can stream Xbox / PS4 without using additional controllers. This is a big plus as I can give the big TV in living room to Girlfriend/Wife/Daughter (Sigh) And play Xbox as a portable console.

- One can play classic PC games with the builtin controller. On my GPD Win some old games did not run well as they show in portrait for some reason.

I am not a real player anyway and haven't switched on both GPD and Xbox for ages but if I want to play games the above points are actually great.

pichlo 2017-10-25 13:59

Re: GPD Win 2
 
Wow, such great response! Thank you all.

All I can say that until now, "steam" was what water turns into when it gets hot and what the Victorians used to build the empire. Probably the last PC game I played was Civilization (the original one; the later versions just do not cut it for me with their fake "3D" graphics). In fact I have recently taken to playing it again on my N900 and encountered some interesting issues. I may update the DOSBox thread with the findings when I get to it :)

juiceme 2017-10-27 05:59

Re: GPD Win 2
 
Well, I played a lot of games at that time when the games had their own OS integrated... there was just a loader called MSDOS on the machine itself!

At some time later I heard that for some odd reason all the games started to need windows to run on; I found this odd since I'd imagine the game application would run smoother on baremetal than on top of some funny windowing scheme.
I'd say that was just laziness on the part of the game designers, trusting to graphics drivers of the platform rather than tuning up their own to run on top of the HW :D

pichlo 2017-10-27 07:08

Re: GPD Win 2
 
Yes, but OTOH my game starts with three screens to choose the graphics mode, sound and keyboard/mouse controls. And the highest graphics mode it offers is EGA. Not caring about such things and leaving them to the OS is a Good Thing™. As are printer settings for those applications that need printing.

railroadmaster 2018-01-01 07:31

Re: GPD Win 2
 
Not only is the Internal hardware much improved, the keyboard is hugely improved and is very usable.

https://youtu.be/2zJA6yYkRAM

railroadmaster 2018-01-01 07:33

Re: GPD Win 2
 
The GPD Win 2 Can run a lot of Modern Games

https://youtu.be/d476g-nDl8E

railroadmaster 2018-01-04 07:05

Re: GPD Win 2
 
https://youtu.be/FnTRWCSjdW4

The GPD Win 2 running linux flawlessly minus some touchscreen stuff.


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